Joining the U.S. Military in 2020?

[Aizen]

Hey guys,

Been thinking about my post-university plans recently, but after a few corporate intern stints, the American white collar route doesn’t seem super appealing. I’m based in NYC, one of the highest taxed places in the nation, where the poorest pay a minimum of 20% on their income. The prospect of slaving away for some globohomo corporation seems pretty dismal given that half of it will probably fall into the hands of the commies like (((DeBlasio))) and (((Cuomo))). Not to mention the fact that office life is the equivalent of a long-term testosterone drain. Appeasing HR roasties for the sake of my livelihood doesn’t sound like the most dignified start to adulthood.

This line of thinking has led me into heavily considering joining the U.S. military. I have some friends who are interested in the Army/Air Force, on the grounds of it as being the last remaining supporters of masculinity in America. The recruiter I’ve been in consult with is about as manly as it gets, and I wouldn’t mind being surrounded by people like this for the next 3 or 4 years. That said, it’s still an American entity, which leads to me think that all that glitters isn't Gold. From what I gather, there have been many changes made recently, which may have compromised the integrity of the entire apparatus.

General:

- Is the military pozzed? If so, which branches specifically? I’ve heard that women are allowed to take on combat roles in the Army these days. In the Middle East. What could possibly go wrong...

- Is the military, as an overall plan, a smart move for a young man in 2020? Or are there better avenues available to becoming a capable man?

- Are the benefits all they’re cracked up to be? What are you actually entitled to? Recruiters glamorize it, and my friends hawk on about the GI bill like it’s the Willy Wonka ticket. My grandfather did use the GI bill to start a family after he was back from WWII, so in a way, I owe my existence to this program. Then again, that was before (((they))) took control...

Ethical:

- Are there moral qualms to fighting for something you don’t believe in? As someone who’s ardently anti-Israel, it would be hard to stomach fighting for the enemy’s benefit.

- How does God feel about man and military service? Especially given the point above.

- Is it right to ship out for a few years, leaving my family behind to fend off the (((forces))) alone? I’m the only male in my family, so it seems like I’ll have to hold down the fort if my forebodings come true. Then again, the military would teach me combat techniques that could be used to protect my community and loved ones.


For those of you who have served, or have family/friends that have served, it would be awesome to hear from you. This could be a pivotal moment in my life - and a 4 year commitment - so I am open to all guidance possible. My boomer parents haven’t been much in the way of help and I could use some authentic masculine direction on this issue. Cheers

 

[Aizen]

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[whitewashedblackguy]

The military is only masculine if you take up a masculine role, like mechanic or grunt, but even those have issues, like having to deal with things like SAPr (Sexual Assault and Prevention) and risking your career even if you happen to be in the same area as a girl who was “raped” (read: drunken regret) by a buddy (“How could you let this happen?”)

SpecOps don’t have to deal with any of that, but if you have problems with what America’s doing it’s not the place for you.

The Navy and the Marines are pretty pozzed, as we all had to do the gay ass SAPr training together. I’m sure the AirForce is too. Not sure about the Army.

On the plus side, if you keep your nose clean and know how to be social (48 Laws of Power), it’s a great to stack cash while you develop some sort of side hustles (location independent). Avoid leadership roles if you can. They’ll suck up all your time that you could be using for things that matter, like your skill set. That’ll make your military career short (4-6 years), but you should have a fat stack of cash and a skill you can take to the market.

Alternatively, if you don’t want a location independent skill, learn some blue collar skills that’s in demand on the market. If you go in for airframes (AM in the navy) you’ll get the chance to learn skills that can be transferred to the civilian side, like NDT, welding, painting, etc. Get all the certs you can.

Either way, save at least 40%, of everything you get.

College is pretty gay and I wouldn’t bother with the G.I. Bill. As you know, college is the definition of pozzed. Benefits are nice but I didn’t bother with most (medical, special loans, etc.), and I don’t really regret it. But do your research.

I won’t go into ethics because that’s not something I cared about when I went in. I just wanted to get out of my shitty ass town.

 

[scenicway]

The benefits are real, both during and after service. Overall, it can be a good move if you have a specific plan.

I can address your general questions. Your ethical questions are not really things I had to think about much, so I can't help you there. If you have ethical problems representing the US, don't do it.

As far as if it's "pozzed" or not; this depends on the community you join, not the branch. If you get a desk type job then it will be no different than corporate America. If you join a combat community it's better.

What type of job do you want? If you sign up for a desk type job, you will get all the same benefits, and work a 9-5 "The Office" type job. If you join and become an operator, or fighter pilot, you will be treated like a pro athlete (less money of course). See the difference? You can't just join the service and hope for the best. You need to have a goal.

2 cool jobs for guys that like to travel:
USMC MSG duty: 3 countries in 3 years. Awesome.
Intel/Linguist: Can be any branch. Get trained in foreign language. (mostly desk jobs though)

If you want the real military experience; pick a job where you blow stuff up. Good luck.

 

[Elipe]

How do you feel about dying for Israel?

General

• Is the military pozzed? If so, which branches specifically?
  • I can definitely tell you that the Navy and the USAF are pozzed. Army has it slightly less bad, but it's definitely on the road there. Basically, you're going to want to join the branch where you have to do the most hard work, because that's where you'll find fewer of the parasitical classes.
• Is the military, as an overall plan, a smart move for a young man in 2020?
  • Is your life a mess right now? Are your finances, social life, social mobility, etc. shot to hell? If so, the answer is yes. Otherwise, if you're doing okay (not drowning in debt), I strongly recommend against joining the military. Join a gun club instead or a gym and make friends there.
• Are the benefits all they're cracked up to be? What are you actually entitled to?
  • I've heard that the VA has been utterly screwing over veterans lately. You will probably have to deal with missing and late payments. Really, if you ask me, the best benefit of joining the military is having your university tuitions paid for you, but I had a friend who went through that and he went from full-blown good ol' boy right-wing Christian to angry Marxist atheist voting for Bernie. So unless you want to risk getting turned into a zombie like that, please don't do this.

Ethical:

• Are there moral qualms to fighting for something you don't believe in?
  • Hell, I work in the DoD, and I have moral qualms. But it's really good, steady money that's paying for building a big family, so I'm still hanging on. I would imagine you're going to have far bigger moral qualms being in the part of the military that does the actual fighting. Again, how do you feel about dying for Israel?
• How does God feel about man and military service?
  • In general, it is honorable for a man to fight to protect his tribe and people. God credits it to our faithfulness. Jesus spoke very respectfully of Roman centurions, because they understood how authority worked, and could readily translate that understanding to the nature of God's kingdom. As for serving a military like ours that actively works toward causes hostile to our people, that's going to be a bigger question mark.
• Is it right to ship out for a few years, leaving my family behind to fend off the (((forces))) alone?
  • What if you get the order to march on an American city? They are going to hunt you down for deserting.
  • If you want to learn combat techniques, join a dojo of some sort and look up videos.

In general, I cannot in good conscience encourage young men to join the military anymore.

 

[The Black Knight]

Short version:

No, you shouldn't join.

If you have to, join the Coast Guard. It's not technically DoD but they get all the military benefits while avoiding a lot of the bullshit. You are likely to be stateside not fighting in a dumb war, more focus on defending America and its interest (sort of - think like humanitarian stuff like recusing people for instance), and you could get some pretty sweet base locations if you like being near the water.

If it's not in the contract, it doesn't matter what the recruiter says.

Some notes on why you shouldn't join:

1. You are government property and can't quit. No one gives a shit about you in the political class; the same folks that decides who lives and dies. The far-left is very close to owning the federal government and thinks Russia is responsible for Donald Trump. The Military Industrial Complex needs to get paid. All the sensible people you respect are jumping ship and only the losers are sticking around.

They can inject with any vaccine you want as well. In a COVID era world, expect to get injected with some dubious vaccine eventually. Your sign up paperwork has a specific line that says you cannot reject any vaccine since it was a point of contention during the 9/11 era with the anthrax vaccine. If you do, you will be discharged; possibly dishonorably and then you're fucked for life in the USA career wise.

You do the math on how this all ends for you.

2. The benefits are not that great and are constantly under attack. The only exception to this recently was the 9/11 GI Bill a decade ago; which is the overall best benefit but has seen some minor devaluation already. If you don't need money for college/education post-military, it's basically worthless.

The pension also has seen some revision lately and isn't nearly as good as it once was. 50% at 20 years to now 40% at 20 years plus you get some matching 401k deal I believe. Remember, this is all in USD and the USD is ripe for a serious crash eventually. If you don't make it to 20 years, you get nothing except that 401k deal. People do get kicked out or RIF (reduction in force = laid off) at 15 years for example and get nothing/near nothing for their 15 years of service. That's all assuming the USA can even pay its debts down the line.

A lot of bases are in shit locations you would never want to live in stateside unless in the Coast Guard (and they have shit locations too). Overseas (non-Coast Guard) can be decent though but you might spend half the time in the Middle East so who cares.

The VA medical system sucks. Awful system with an odd exception or two. If you get screwed up medically, you will be depending on them and their bullshit to take care of you.

3. Much of the military is just government bureaucrats with a uniform. Except these are bureaucrats that have legal authority over every aspect of your life. Outside a few jobs, you will not being dealing with many red pill bad ass dudes. Think about someone at the DMV and that loser having full control over your life potentially; including to making decisions that could get you killed. You wanna bet it all on that person's judgement?

4. Most of the senior leadership in the military are not Patton's/Eisenhower's, they are political twats who know how to play the game and get the check box filled for the next promotion at the expense of people below them. Lots of managers; very few leaders.

5. The USA might not even be country in 10-20 years. We are on the verge of a civil war/separation event and you might end up having to support a side you don't associate with.

6. Just because YOU want to do something doesn't you mean you get what you want.

You can go to Fighter pilot school and get washed out for medical/educational/logistical reasons and end up babysitting a supply depot for 4 years riding a desk counting office chairs. Happens ALL the time. Plenty of people might get a shot at a job but it doesn't mean you will actually do it. This can happen mid-career too where you could be a aircraft mechanic for ten years that gets told one day to retrain and become a cook or get the hell out. It does happen.

Remember, you are government property. You have near zero rights and your preferences ultimately don't matter. "Needs of the service" comes first.

Bottom line:

I could go on and on but you need to look elsewhere with MAYBE an exception for the Coast Guard. Otherwise, the US Military is a bad bet for any sensible red pill man in 2020.

If white collar life blows (in America, it certainly does), there are alternative options both inside and outside the US that are far better than the military. Main things to focus on are careers that allow for mobility, independence, and control: Tradesman, business owner, certain sales jobs, certain creative fields, teaching english gig/international teaching are some examples.

 

[No-Designation Man]

Full disclosure: I am not currently serving, nor have I ever done so in the past.

Hey guys,

Been thinking about my post-university plans recently, but after a few corporate intern stints, the American white collar route doesn’t seem super appealing. I’m based in NYC, one of the highest taxed places in the nation, where the poorest pay a minimum of 20% on their income. The prospect of slaving away for some globohomo corporation seems pretty dismal given that half of it will probably fall into the hands of the commies like (((DeBlasio))) and (((Cuomo))). Not to mention the fact that office life is the equivalent of a long-term testosterone drain. Appeasing HR roasties for the sake of my livelihood doesn’t sound like the most dignified start to adulthood.

Why does it have to be white-collar?
Your post here suggests, strongly, that you have no aversion to doing physical labor, and under less-than-ideal conditions. (That's a compliment, by the way!)
Secondly, by joining the military, would you not be defending the 'rights and freedoms' of not only "HR roasties", but also of BLM, LGTBQetc, SJWs, unwed mothers, abortion clinics, no-fault divorce, and a whole plethora of other perverted groups/ideologies? Can your conscience deal with that?

This line of thinking has led me into heavily considering joining the U.S. military. I have some friends who are interested in the Army/Air Force, on the grounds of it as being the last remaining supporters of masculinity in America. The recruiter I’ve been in consult with is about as manly as it gets, and I wouldn’t mind being surrounded by people like this for the next 3 or 4 years. That said, it’s still an American entity, which leads to me think that all that glitters isn't Gold. From what I gather, there have been many changes made recently, which may have compromised the integrity of the entire apparatus.

Christian masculinity is what concerns us - Do the Recruiters and the Recruited recognize that above all else?

Also, if the King of the Nation does not lead his troups in battle *on the front line*, what does this tell us about what the true cause is which we would actually be fighting for?

General:

- Is the military pozzed? If so, which branches specifically? I’ve heard that women are allowed to take on combat roles in the Army these days. In the Middle East. What could possibly go wrong...

"Good guys, bad guys? - It's all a machine. My advice; don't get involved."

Or are there better avenues available to becoming a capable man?

Turn your back on everything that supports Satan's world, and dedicate yourself to God.

Ethical:

- Are there moral qualms to fighting for something you don’t believe in? As someone who’s ardently anti-Israel, it would be hard to stomach fighting for the enemy’s benefit.

Absolutely; as this means that we would be sell-outs. Engaging in any endeavor we know to be wrong would make us worse, morally, then those who would commit the same act in ignorance.

- How does God feel about man and military service? Especially given the point above.

I invite you to consider 1 John 5:19 and Luke 4:5-7. What do you think, JiggyLordJr? Based on the scriptures, who does every military actually serve?

- Is it right to ship out for a few years, leaving my family behind to fend off the (((forces))) alone? I’m the only male in my family, so it seems like I’ll have to hold down the fort if my forebodings come true. Then again, the military would teach me combat techniques that could be used to protect my community and loved ones

When the (((forces))) and the forces make their final all-out attack on Christianity, all militaries around the planet will unite in that anti-Christ effort. What will you do at that point?

Edit:
Note that I mean no disrespect with the use of so many 'quote-bubbles'. You had multiple points you wished to be addressed, so this seemed the most 'tidy' way to handle it.

 

[AllGhilliedUp]

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[AllGhilliedUp]

The military is only masculine if you take up a masculine role, like mechanic or grunt, but even those have issues, like having to deal with things like SAPr (Sexual Assault and Prevention) and risking your career even if you happen to be in the same area as a girl who was “raped” (read: drunken regret) by a buddy (“How could you let this happen?”)

SpecOps don’t have to deal with any of that, but if you have problems with what America’s doing it’s not the place for you.

The Navy and the Marines are pretty pozzed, as we all had to do the gay ass SAPr training together. I’m sure the AirForce is too. Not sure about the Army.

On the plus side, if you keep your nose clean and know how to be social (48 Laws of Power), it’s a great to stack cash while you develop some sort of side hustles (location independent). Avoid leadership roles if you can. They’ll suck up all your time that you could be using for things that matter, like your skill set. That’ll make your military career short (4-6 years), but you should have a fat stack of cash and a skill you can take to the market.

Alternatively, if you don’t want a location independent skill, learn some blue collar skills that’s in demand on the market. If you go in for airframes (AM in the navy) you’ll get the chance to learn skills that can be transferred to the civilian side, like NDT, welding, painting, etc. Get all the certs you can.

Either way, save at least 40%, of everything you get.

College is pretty gay and I wouldn’t bother with the G.I. Bill. As you know, college is the definition of pozzed. Benefits are nice but I didn’t bother with most (medical, special loans, etc.), and I don’t really regret it. But do your research.

I won’t go into ethics because that’s not something I cared about when I went in. I just wanted to get out of my shitty ass town.

Mate you sound like a sorry ass low t-count apathetic quitter and your voice hails no trustworthiness. Even the idea of joining is highly commendable for any able-bodied man to both explore his masculinity and take pride in becoming an active service member in defense of this great nation. If I were your male ancestor I would honor-kill you for your insolence. I am glad I do not look to my left or my right and see a coward like you on my team shy from duty.

 

[Stonewall Jackson]

You can always consider the reserves if you are unsure about full time service.

Even if the leadership is pozzed, most of the lower level white guys in the service are not. They will still be traditional Americans.

- Are there moral qualms to fighting for something you don’t believe in? As someone who’s ardently anti-Israel, it would be hard to stomach fighting for the enemy’s benefit.

As was stated above by The Black Knight, if you have a problem with overseas wars look at the Coast Guard. You would mostly be under the Dept. of Homeland Security instead of the Dept. of Defense, but it's still an official US armed service branch. All the rules and benefits that apply to the Navy or Marines apply to the Coast Guard. You'll be on the right side of most issues from "our" perspective. Drug interdiction, immigration control, port security, anti-terrorism, maritime law enforcement, search and rescue, etc. You will actually be defending what is left of our country.

 

[whitewashedblackguy]

Mate you sound like a sorry ass low t-count apathetic quitter and your voice hails no trustworthiness. Even the idea of joining is highly commendable for any able-bodied man to both explore his masculinity and take pride in becoming an active service member in defense of this great nation. If I were your male ancestor I would honor-kill you for your insolence. I am glad I do not look to my left or my right and see a coward like you on my team shy from duty.

Sounds like you served 20 years. Good for you. I did my time. And our nation has changed. Unless you served in SpecOps, the military isn’t all masculine anymore. Same shit as corporate America, masquerading as masculine.

What’s got your panties in a bunch, anyways? At least I served.

 

[La Águila Negra]

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[STG]

I would only consider it if you were going to get a trade or skill from joining. Something that would give you a career when you got out.

The military is becoming a social experiment like everything else. Imagine if real conflict breaks out and you are under the command of someone who was promoted because of their race, gender, or sexual orientation instead of merit.

It would have been something to be in the 1985 U.S. military, today I am not so sure.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/army-rotc-program-allegedly-pushed-men-wear-high-h/

 

[R.G.Camara]

Hey guys,

Been thinking about my post-university plans recently, but after a few corporate intern stints, the American white collar route doesn’t seem super appealing. I’m based in NYC, one of the highest taxed places in the nation, where the poorest pay a minimum of 20% on their income. The prospect of slaving away for some globohomo corporation seems pretty dismal given that half of it will probably fall into the hands of the commies like (((DeBlasio))) and (((Cuomo))). Not to mention the fact that office life is the equivalent of a long-term testosterone drain. Appeasing HR roasties for the sake of my livelihood doesn’t sound like the most dignified start to adulthood.

This line of thinking has led me into heavily considering joining the U.S. military. I have some friends who are interested in the Army/Air Force, on the grounds of it as being the last remaining supporters of masculinity in America. The recruiter I’ve been in consult with is about as manly as it gets, and I wouldn’t mind being surrounded by people like this for the next 3 or 4 years. That said, it’s still an American entity, which leads to me think that all that glitters isn't Gold. From what I gather, there have been many changes made recently, which may have compromised the integrity of the entire apparatus.

General:

- Is the military pozzed? If so, which branches specifically? I’ve heard that women are allowed to take on combat roles in the Army these days. In the Middle East. What could possibly go wrong...

- Is the military, as an overall plan, a smart move for a young man in 2020? Or are there better avenues available to becoming a capable man?

- Are the benefits all they’re cracked up to be? What are you actually entitled to? Recruiters glamorize it, and my friends hawk on about the GI bill like it’s the Willy Wonka ticket. My grandfather did use the GI bill to start a family after he was back from WWII, so in a way, I owe my existence to this program. Then again, that was before (((they))) took control...

Ethical:

- Are there moral qualms to fighting for something you don’t believe in? As someone who’s ardently anti-Israel, it would be hard to stomach fighting for the enemy’s benefit.

- How does God feel about man and military service? Especially given the point above.

- Is it right to ship out for a few years, leaving my family behind to fend off the (((forces))) alone? I’m the only male in my family, so it seems like I’ll have to hold down the fort if my forebodings come true. Then again, the military would teach me combat techniques that could be used to protect my community and loved ones.


For those of you who have served, or have family/friends that have served, it would be awesome to hear from you. This could be a pivotal moment in my life - and a 4 year commitment - so I am open to all guidance possible. My boomer parents haven’t been much in the way of help and I could use some authentic masculine direction on this issue. Cheers

All the branches are pozzed, and heavily so. I say this as an outside observer who has never served, but you don't have to be inside a burning building to see its on fire and being destroyed.

About the only area that seems non-pozzed in the ultra-special forces dudes (SEALs, Berets, Recon, etc.) but good luck getting into those.

The only reason to go in would be to get some military training (however inadequate and poor it offers today), learn a trade, get the G.I. Bill, meet with some like-minded folks (they are there) to develop post-collapse connections, or to get the shine for a political career.

Picture the American military like the Roman military in 400-470 A.D.: People joined to exploit the system, not to serve Rome. The Roman army by then was crappy, far over-extended, corrupt, living on the glories of the past, too interested in promotion for non-valid reasons, demoralized, weak, and heavily dependent on mercenaries.

That last bit is important; the Western Roman Empire in the last century relied on Gothic and German mercenaries to deliver any real military wins. And then those mercenaries turned on the empire and it collapsed into petty Gothic kingdoms.

Right now a lot of the grunt work in Afghanistan and Iraq and other places is done by mercs we hire. Blackwater (which changed its name) was a big one. They call them military contractors but they are mercenaries.

Yes, we have special forces and ordinary duty guys doing great things out there, but half of everything being done are paid mercs with no loyalty to the military or government. That will not last long and they will either leave when the pay goes away or turn on us.

Now, many of the mercenaries were regular soldiers first and then were recruited after their discharge, so maybe you might want to go that route. But otherwise, if you join, keep your head down, get the training you want, and get out. Or you may want to get in, and then get discharged and become a military supplier using your connections, those seem to work out well.

One place I might recommend would be Space Force. Since its new, its probably the least pozzed.

P.S. I sometimes feel bad I didn't serve, but when I looked at the diversity-filled, affirmative action promoting, gay and tranny loving, women in the military, anti-white nature of the U.S. military today, I realize that I made a good choice. I do not want to support that kind of world.

 

[STG]

Picture the American military like the Roman military in 400-470 A.D.: People joined to exploit the system, not to serve Rome. The Roman army by then was crappy, far over-extended, corrupt, living on the glories of the past, too interested in promotion for non-valid reasons, demoralized, weak, and heavily dependent on mercenaries.

That last bit is important; the Western Roman Empire in the last century relied on Gothic and German mercenaries to deliver any real military wins. And then those mercenaries turned on the empire and it collapsed into petty Gothic kingdoms.

Right now a lot of the grunt work in Afghanistan and Iraq and other places is done by mercs we hire. Blackwater (which changed its name) was a big one. They call them military contractors but they are mercenaries.

Yes, we have special forces and ordinary duty guys doing great things out there, but half of everything being done are paid mercs with no loyalty to the military or government. That will not last long and they will either leave when the pay goes away or turn on us.

P.S. I sometimes feel bad I didn't serve, but when I looked at the diversity-filled, affirmative action promoting, gay and tranny loving, women in the military, anti-white nature of the U.S. military today, I realize that I made a good choice. I do not want to support that kind of world.

Man it really is depressing when you look at the big picture of history.

We are repeating the same mistakes of Rome and will collapse just the same. Feminism and letting foreigners in by having them do military service the decadent original people won't do.

Rome let foreigners into the military and would give them citizenship. Eventually the foreigners outnumbered the Romans.

Hey man, those illegal Mexicans joined the U.S. Marine Corps! They are more "American" then you even though your lineage traces back to the original pioneers!

 

[Stonewall Jackson]

Your average white solider or sailor is not pozzed.

The leadership is pozzed. But it's not worse than any major company in the US. It would like being a welder for a large company. Your CEO and human resources that you barely deal with will be pozzed. Maybe some of your direct mid level management will have slight pozz, or half ass enforce pozz with a wink and a nod. Your coworkers that you interact with every day will not.

 

[Easy_C]

I'd say no right now for one huge reason among those already mentioned: You'll be forced to get the COVID vaccine and even among those of us that believe vaccine "science" there's a lot of reasons not to trust this particular one.

Overall, don't do it. Positives are that the Veteran networking advantage is powerful, you count as a "diversity" hire for quotas, and it gives you a lot of street cred with Patriot types.

Downsides...are massive. Your leadership will typically be a young 20's college grad complete with all the insanity that implies.

John T Reed explains a lot of why here:

The 'U.S. military’s marathon, 30-year, single-elimination, suck-up tournament' or 'How America selects its generals'

Copyright John T. Reed Americans assume that our generals, especially our top generals, are our best military leaders, proven in combat and selected based on their performance leading men in war. Surely you jest. Are the top officials in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare our best...

johntreed.com

 

[Easy_C]

Career military people think they are conservative. They are liberal.

Copyright John T. Reed ‘Family values,’ yes; results, no The U.S. military is very conservative with regard to religion, “family values,” patriotism, the defense budget, veterans benefits, and all that. But when it comes to how they live their lives and do their jobs, they are radical leftist...

johntreed.com

 

[Easy_C]

Is the U.S. military as good at producing leaders as it says?

Copyright 2008 by John T. Reed I recently received an email from a young West Point graduate who had gotten out of the Army and was working at a household name big U.S. corporation. He was flummoxed by his inability to use his West Point and Army leadership training and experience in his work...

johntreed.com

 

[Max Roscoe]

A few things to consider:
As a younger person you are very concerned about money.

As you get older, this becomes less important, and things like personal fulfillment, mental challenges, etc. are more important, and you also realize that you can make decent money doing a number of jobs so why not pick one that you really enjoy. I met a guy a couple of weeks ago walking down the street of an old town. He was a painter, and he waved me in to his studio where we chatted for a bit. He used to work in banking / finance and switched to this job in a rural country town and can't wait to get up and paint every day. He didn't feel that way about the finance job.

I would imagine once you have a family of your own, your priorities shift yet again. In the military, you are signing up for life. Yes, you can get in and out in 20 years, but you will be giving them the best years of your life and you wont have any control over your future or career or things like personal fulfillment in that time.

You might get maimed as tens of thousands have, or suffer psychological trauma. You will definately be brainwashed. Are you ok with losing an eye so that a stable secular monarchy is overthrown and religious extremists elected to office like in Iraq? What about murdering the father of a daughter who is fighting globalist forces that are trying to spread gay marriage and tranny education to his country?

You will probably be sent all around the country, or even the world. Many military people have failed marriages and it's an incredibly difficult life.

Most people who sign up for the military are brainwashed in the My Country Right Or Wrong mentality. If you dont feel that way,you're going to feel very alienated.

You are going to be doing bad or evil things. At best you will just be wasting your time, which, if you have a certain level of mental capacity is also going to frustrate you. It's like filling out TPS reports for Lumberg all day long--it will frustrate and possibly depress you.

I have a huge problem with basically everything the military has done in my lifetime, and most of what it did before that. You won't be defending Murica against anything. You will be part of an effort to destabilize the world, spread globohomo (ie democracy), and subvert the last few independent nations that are trying to resist globalism (Russia/China/Venezuela/Iran/Cuba/N Korea). Things are only getting worse, so imagine that you will be participating in things even more unpleasant than what the military has done in the past, and ask yourself if you want to be part of that.

As you grow older, your sense of morality can grow stronger and more prominent. You cannot easily predict how your values will change as a 20 something, but they will. This is why the military loves to get people at 18-25. They are easily brainwashed and most importantly just don't care about the right and wrong of what they are doing.

I would think when you become a father, this would become even more important. Your values of wanting a good steady paycheck and an easy retirement in your 20s are going to be different than the values you develop 10 years in. At that point, you may decide to just stay with it because you are half way there and then you have a miserable decade, hopefully not participating in immoral activities directly, or killing innocent people.

If you do murder someone, or perhaps if you just indirectly murder someone in the efforts of a support position, can you live with that? Is that ok because you were paid your bag of silver, or because it was sanctioned by an authority?

Thou Shalt Not Kill. There have been Christian expositions on this that explain self defense is a warranted killing, and that this simply means Do Not Murder. But the US Military has not faced a defensive war since 1812 and you will be participating in direct or indirect murder of others.

The 2 guys I know who finished the military are very jaded and believe in every single conspiracy theory you can imagine. Because they were lied to so much by their government. And now they just assume if the government says it's raining then it cannot possibly be raining. Do you want your mind twisted that much?

Do you love democracy and wish it spread to all the corners of the earth? Do you believe that Anal Marriage should be spread to every society on earth that prohibits it? Do you believe in Jewish Supremacy? Do you believe in Equality and Feminism? Black Lives Matter? Fractional Reserve Banking ? If not, then why in the world would you willingly sign up to help spread those evils all over the planet? That is literally the function of the US military.

Finally if you really want to do it, the Coast Guard is the only option, but you're going to spend month long missions on ice breakers up in the arctic for years and years.

Those are the negatives. The positive is you have job security and can retire while still young with a government pension and be free to have a second career and/or start a family then and don't have to worry about money. You'll make friends, but they will be Democrat and Republican friends who buy the official line on everything. At least until the end of it when they become jaded and paranoid like my 2 friends.

You will be a different person if you spend 20 years in the belly of the beast, than you are today. Imagine you never ever read a word on this forum, and how different your outlook and worldview would be. Now imagine the entity influencing your thoughts was not a redpilled Christian masculine community, but the Zionist US government, and think what kind of person you will be after decades of that.

The only person I would encourage to join the military is someone with strong mental will who planned on entering to learn tactics and skills to be later applied in a rebellion.