Joining the U.S. Military in 2020?

Pendleton

Pelican
Looks like they have an obedient army of mercenaries. Most likely, they will as happily follow orders to exterminate American badthinkers as they do orders to fight abroad. After all, the US is as much a foreign country to those mercenaries as any other country where they might be stationed.
 
I'm going to bring this thread back from the grave because I think its an option that could benefit many young men on here

I am 24 years old and feel stuck. I make ok money (25-30/hr) doing construction, but have no direction in life. I am stuck living with parents, and cant logically see my way out of this house/town and into a marriage. I returned from living abroad for a few years when covid hit, but have been stuck since. I originally planned to go into the oil field and stack away money there to start a life, but that went bust. Depression and lack of motion are getting the better of me.

Now I am here looking at options, and I see enlisting as a decent one given the current state of affairs. I, like most people here, hate the idea of dying as a warrior for greater Israel and hate the diversity/inclusivity anti-whiteness of the military. With that said, it's 2-4 years of paychecks, adventure, and lifelong benefits. It's also paid trade schooling if you get into the right job.

The way I look at it, if sh*t hits the fan in America, and there is a kosher war, I think its better to be secured in a role of making ethernet connections or paving a road than it is to be the general public that would be drafted into infantry.

If the oil field or other traveling lucrative work existed right now, I'd be all over it. I just don't see it. That's why I'm seriously considering enlisting
 

Red_Pill_Medic

Sparrow
Orthodox
Bottom line: DO NOT JOIN.

Reasoning: I would absolutely advise against joining any branch of the military or doing anything else where you are contractually under obligation to the government. I was going to join out of high school and come from a military family and attended military school for 6 years. I did not go in due to a previous surgery preventing me from doing the special operations job I wanted, I didn't want to do anything else so I got out of it. I have family and friends currently in the military and they would echo my opinion. There is a very long list of reasons not to join that others have mentioned above.

Alternative Solutions: There are other masculine careers that you can begin working in with little to moderate education and make enough money to pursue your masculine development yourself. Some of these careers are construction, welding, plumbing, elevator technician, paramedic, firefighter, nurse, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, certified nurse anesthetist (CRNA), IT, truck driver, plane or helicopter pilot, etc. I work in one of the above careers. Ideally you can get an education or certification or both which allow you to be employable in a variety of locations and for a variety of organizations, thus as the Marxist control increases if you are fired from where you work due to not submitting to whatever degenerate agenda or you need to move to a different location for whatever reason, it will be easy for you to find new employment. These careers also have niche areas you can get into which allow you to be specialized in a high demand skill thus you will be harder to fire, more likely to get hired, and possibly able to move into an area of the field which is even better suited to you personally or you as a masculine man.

Masculine Development: Once you obtain a job which provides you enough money to secure whatever housing and transportation solution is right for you whether that be a house, apartment, tiny house, RV, van, truck, tent, hotel, etc. and a vehicle to get to and from work etc. you can begin to use your money for your personal development of your knowledge and skills. You can take shooting courses, scuba diving courses, survival courses, motorcycle courses, farming courses, medical courses, martial arts courses, etc etc. You can take classes on whatever topic you want such as the above ones, religion (hopefully Orthodoxy), medicine, physical training, diet and nutrition, etc. and if you manage your money well you'll have time to do those things as well as whatever else God deems for you to do to grow as a man and to grow your faith.
 

Red_Pill_Medic

Sparrow
Orthodox
Bottom line: DO NOT JOIN.

Reasoning: I would absolutely advise against joining any branch of the military or doing anything else where you are contractually under obligation to the government. I was going to join out of high school and come from a military family and attended military school for 6 years. I did not go in due to a previous surgery preventing me from doing the special operations job I wanted, I didn't want to do anything else so I got out of it. I have family and friends currently in the military and they would echo my opinion. There is a very long list of reasons not to join that others have mentioned above.

Alternative Solutions: There are other masculine careers that you can begin working in with little to moderate education and make enough money to pursue your masculine development yourself. Some of these careers are construction, welding, plumbing, elevator technician, paramedic, firefighter, nurse, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, certified nurse anesthetist (CRNA), IT, truck driver, plane or helicopter pilot, etc. I work in one of the above careers. Ideally you can get an education or certification or both which allow you to be employable in a variety of locations and for a variety of organizations, thus as the Marxist control increases if you are fired from where you work due to not submitting to whatever degenerate agenda or you need to move to a different location for whatever reason, it will be easy for you to find new employment. These careers also have niche areas you can get into which allow you to be specialized in a high demand skill thus you will be harder to fire, more likely to get hired, and possibly able to move into an area of the field which is even better suited to you personally or you as a masculine man.

Masculine Development: Once you obtain a job which provides you enough money to secure whatever housing and transportation solution is right for you whether that be a house, apartment, tiny house, RV, van, truck, tent, hotel, etc. and a vehicle to get to and from work etc. you can begin to use your money for your personal development of your knowledge and skills. You can take shooting courses, scuba diving courses, survival courses, motorcycle courses, farming courses, medical courses, martial arts courses, etc etc. You can take classes on whatever topic you want such as the above ones, religion (hopefully Orthodoxy), medicine, physical training, diet and nutrition, etc. and if you manage your money well you'll have time to do those things as well as whatever else God deems for you to do to grow as a man and to grow your faith.
To be clear on what's possible for an average man at my age, I had 2 years of education, am 21 and currently make $65,000-$135,000/yr depending on how much I choose to work. I am also in school full time working towards another job on my above list. That being said I have no idea when the conditions in this country will force me to move to a different employer, a different location, or abandon my career and education entirely. Realistically I think we definitely need to consider how fast things may become intolerable to us personally and include that in our plans and obviously ask God and pray about any major decisions like that.
 

Mountaineer

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
I understand that through the military one can learn highly valuable skills and establish himself. I'm actually envious of that. Unfortunately that is only part of the picture and a less important, skin-deep one. If you join the military you ultimately become a servant of the jews and are part responsible for all their crimes. The Rothchilds/Clintons/Bushes wage war on people to further their satanic agenda and you are helping them, doing their bidding while risking your life. I couldn't look myself in the mirror. The only army I'll ever be in is my army and the only war I'll fight is my war but some people prefer to go to places like Afghanistan, commit horrible sin of murder, get their limbs shot off and after that be proud of what they did in the name of evil. Meanwhile the community they should stay part of back home is being subverted beyond recognition by the same people who own the military. Way to go.
 
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Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
I'm going to bring this thread back from the grave because I think its an option that could benefit many young men on here

I am 24 years old and feel stuck. I make ok money (25-30/hr) doing construction, but have no direction in life. I am stuck living with parents, and cant logically see my way out of this house/town and into a marriage. I returned from living abroad for a few years when covid hit, but have been stuck since. I originally planned to go into the oil field and stack away money there to start a life, but that went bust. Depression and lack of motion are getting the better of me.

Now I am here looking at options, and I see enlisting as a decent one given the current state of affairs. I, like most people here, hate the idea of dying as a warrior for greater Israel and hate the diversity/inclusivity anti-whiteness of the military. With that said, it's 2-4 years of paychecks, adventure, and lifelong benefits. It's also paid trade schooling if you get into the right job.

The way I look at it, if sh*t hits the fan in America, and there is a kosher war, I think its better to be secured in a role of making ethernet connections or paving a road than it is to be the general public that would be drafted into infantry.

If the oil field or other traveling lucrative work existed right now, I'd be all over it. I just don't see it. That's why I'm seriously considering enlisting
You're making great money for your age, and have legitimate work experience that can lead to other trades all over the country. The military could work out for you, but you don't need it for adventure and paychecks.
 
You're making great money for your age, and have legitimate work experience that can lead to other trades all over the country. The military could work out for you, but you don't need it for adventure and paychecks.
I am considering the military as more of a way to break out of the depressing cycle I and many other young men find themselves in. Ideally, I'd like to be stationed in some far base, and doing a tech job.

Not for nothing, it seems like all guys my age who went into the military straight out of high school all have lives with wives/girlfriends, while most don't. Military service seems to give men more respect.
 

DanielH

Ostrich
Moderator
Orthodox
I am considering the military as more of a way to break out of the depressing cycle I and many other young men find themselves in. Ideally, I'd like to be stationed in some far base, and doing a tech job.

Not for nothing, it seems like all guys my age who went into the military straight out of high school all have lives with wives/girlfriends, while most don't. Military service seems to give men more respect.
Cannot underestimate how pozzed it is and you have to ask yourself if you're okay working under a Kamala Harris administration. Imagine watching a 110 lb black female corpsman instructing you on how to wear a condom by sliding one onto a comically large purple dildo.

It can be a great way to get an education if you do a route like you say but that stuff is never guaranteed, and the value of education is constantly dropping.

Also military wives almost always seem to be a peg or two lower quality people than their husbands, and often times run away with your kids and half your retirement. Marrying after a short stint would be better imo.

The military also makes it harder to be a Christian. The amount of sexual and alcohol related degeneracy might be in the same park as civilian life but it's much harder to avoid and if you're Catholic or Orthodox you may have to go long times without partaking in the sacraments. If you're a straight edge guy you may become a pariah depending on how charismatic you are otherwise.

I know guys who really enjoy their deployments because it lets them get away from their broken lives but it's better to not break your life in the first place. One such guy is a reservist whose wife divorced him and he became a hoarder, the other is active duty whose wife divorced him and took his kids.

Overall I'd say it's a better choice than going straight into a non STEM (and some STEM) related degree programs but you have to temper your expectations and be spiritually mature.
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
That's why I'm seriously considering enlisting
Tomorrow is Monday. Find the recruiter closest to you that opens the earliest. Go there and enlist.

Send me your zip code I'll find it for you.

Don't listen to whiners that make a bunch of excuses for their own lack of courage. Forget about all the Isreal and globalism and all that. Go get in a real firefight. Push a button that blows away terrorists. You will not regret this decision.

Aloha!
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
A sharp hand salute and deep abiding respect for how brother Kona reinforces that we are here today due to the thousands of years of ancestor warrior builders who developed lethal manly fighting skills to defend their people and pick the most fertile high SMV women for themselves to create families and continue their line of Christian Warriors as their greatest legacy and in accordance with the Lord our God's mandates. Our sacred Constitution, inspired by God is not a suicide pact and its defense under arms is a man's greatest rite of passage. Over the next few weeks we may be called to man up in defense of our constitutional republic... look into your local rod and hunt/fish and game clubs or oathkeepers.org to follow the lead of fellow fighting men and lead, follow or get out of the way.
 

Lights

Woodpecker
I enlisted the Navy when I was 19 and retarded and didn't give a shit about anything. It was fun, changed my life, made me a better person. but definitely wouldn't do it now after having life experience.

Was deployed to Iraq for a few months babysitting Iraqi detainees and there was a lot of weird "above everones paygrade" stuff going on that generally did not sit well with me, made me question everything I believed et cetera. Buddy of mine who's job was an ordnanceman on helicopters got sent to Afghanistan and returned with severe PTSD as he was in a combat role.

Anyway

That being said, If I were 19 now and in the same situation I was then, I would enlist again, though, for sure. You're gonna get a paycheck, 3 hots and a cot. Definitely a better move than college, that's for sure. You're gonna look good and sharp in that uniform and be working out all the time so that's cool. Plenty of time to party and meet some interesting folks.

For a 24 year old who's worried about politics and whatever, you're gonna have to let all that crap go and just go hard, be a beast, and be the best person you can be, because at the end of the day you are just a pawn in their game, to paraphrase Kissinger.

All this talk about ((())) and whether something is pozzed or not has no place in the military, you better let all of that go asap, just gravitate toward high performers, stay single, don't knock anyone up and get out under 10 years

P>S Shout out all the military vets chiming in this thread here, I find usually ex-military guys generally the coolest guys
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
Eh. Former enlisted AND officer here. I wouldn’t jump into the military now for a lot of reason I can’t go into in depth now due to time (I’m on a phone between kids).

Bottom line: There’s a lot of great things in the military BUT you’re not going to get to do the cool stuff that much out of training unless you get into one of the “cool guy” units like Ranger or such. Leadership is generally abysmal and are political yes men (Google “30 year suck up Marathon”, you want the result from John Reed). Also consider that you’ll be forcefully jabbed with every vaxx they make.
 

skullmask

Woodpecker
Protestant
I am 24 years old and feel stuck. I make ok money (25-30/hr) doing construction, but have no direction in life. I am stuck living with parents, and cant logically see my way out of this house/town and into a marriage. I returned from living abroad for a few years when covid hit, but have been stuck since. I originally planned to go into the oil field and stack away money there to start a life, but that went bust. Depression and lack of motion are getting the better of me.

Damn, 25-30/hr is pretty good. Is it full time? I did 4 years in the Air Force, but after getting out I had a few tough years before I found decent work again.

You don't need to join the military to find direction in life. There were things I found very beneficial about the AF, but at the same time when I realized the true nature of our so-called war on terror, I couldn't in good conscience reenlist. I also saw a good man have his life ruined by a false rape accusation and an unjust military justice system. Be very careful around women in the military, there's no shortages of white knights and simps willing to go to bat for them.

I have serious reservations about military service in the present political context. You will be a pawn in a game played by an elite that hates you and loves it when people like us die. But the experience you gain can be useful to you, and you can make connections that will help you for years afterwards.

Just don't expect the military to fix your problems for you. It can open doors for you, but you still have to put in the work and walk through them yourself.
 

R.G.Camara

 
Banned
Don't join unless you think the training and pay will make up for being part of a pozzed, anti-American force that poops all over you as a white male.

Now the basic training, and especially if you get into something advanced like the Army Rangers or beyond, will make you more valuable as society breaks down. Most people can't fire a gun, so being able to fire, clean, and care for a weapon, read a map, and deal with marching over hostile territory will push you above the pack to a leadership position when it all falls apart. But if you have a lot of that already, the military isn't worth it, just join a milita group.

Knowing where the military bases and supply centers are will help you to go for them if we get into heavy firefighting in a civil war. Training in technical jobs is valuable as well, might get you some civilian contracting work. So get yourself in as good as shape as possible and seek out the area you want, but always look to get advanced combat training if you can stomach it.

That said, there isn't much worth after that. Anyone staying in beyond the minimum requirement has one of the following problems: (1) blindness to the decay; (2) bloodlust; (3) desire to be a mercenary; (4) desire to loot and rape; or (5) using it as a polish for their political resume. Those are all bad reasons to stay in, and there aren't any good ones to remain these days. You'll be fighting for Israel/Saudi Arabia/China's interests in some dirthole thousands of miles away, and when you come back you'll be called a Nazi. Your head will be screwed up and the PTSD might send you on the streets. And some minority/gay/tranny/female will be promoted ahead of you every step of the way, despite your being far more qualified.

You aren't going to change the system or reform it from the inside, the decay is fatal unless it comes from a top-down huge sweep from the Oval Office. Sure, you might get intelligence you can feed to outside freedom fighters, but if we get to the point of us military v. militias, you'll likely be purged early, and the militias will have guys they've already placed. In other words, staying in for noble reasons won't work here either.

Tl;DR version: If you are going in, get in and get out quickly. Identify the skills to learn, target yourself towards them, get the training, and then get out before your morale, your mind, or your body is mangled. God bless and good luck.
 

Seeker79

Kingfisher
The military can offer you a great path onto civilian career through training, experience, and exposure. I have many friends from high school and college who went military. Most of them left after one enlisted contract or their initial obligation as an officer. They are all doing well.

Based on their experiences and stories here is how I would do it if I were you:
  • Enlist in a technical job with a security clearance in the Navy or Air Force. You will not go to direct combat unless WW3 breaks out.
  • Only do one enlistment.
  • Don't pay attention to politics or conspiracies.
  • You are only there to get the experience and training.
  • You will get the post 9/11 GI Bill after you get out, which will open many doors for you.
 

tomzestatlu

Kingfisher
Agnostic
I have already shared my view on this topic, but I will add this:

A lot of my civilian friends see soldier as someone, who is physically fit and well prepared and motivated. Reality is totally different and there are no real borders to get into military (while for getting decent job, you actually have to at least have some valuable skill). In military everybody gets the uniform and everybody looks the same, but people in those uniforms are not the same. And never will be.
Think about military as some big corporation with thousands and thousands employees. Are the most of the people working in the factory high-performance workers? No, they are there, because no better job was left for them. The same it´s with military. The difference is, that between that mass of average, there are a lot of talented people with big heart with big potential, if they use it well.
I still think that military is good place for young man, but once you ask a question "is military good for me?", next following question should be "what in military is good for me?" If you are assigned to some basic unit, you will spend the most of time with people with no real life aspirations. Many of them just go with the flow from paycheck to paycheck, while becoming unusable for civilian environment. And as it´s being said, you end up as average of closest people around you.
Commit your service to getting into some high-performance team. Strive to go SF. If you are not physically dominating your peers, start working for that ASAP. Or look at other opportunities, that leverage intelect over physical condition, but still, strive to deliver more quality than being conventional war infantryman, that can be anybody.

Also, I dont find political views as a reason not to join. I disagree with the most of the things happening in the world, but what? Still it´s my job to take part in it. As I was younger I was quite politically active and took really big risks and could easily end up in jail. But I came to realization that there are 7 billions of people on this planet and being serious about my political views don´t change anything. Nobody really cares. Nobody gives a fck about my opinion on Israel and it´s hostile illegal operations against other countries.
But I realized, that I can actually change my life towards better (I overlooked this option, while I was angry, that I can´t change the world) and if you put effort and change right direciton, military is good playground for it.
 

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Tomorrow is Monday. Find the recruiter closest to you that opens the earliest. Go there and enlist.

Send me your zip code I'll find it for you.

Don't listen to whiners that make a bunch of excuses for their own lack of courage. Forget about all the Isreal and globalism and all that. Go get in a real firefight. Push a button that blows away terrorists. You will not regret this decision.

Aloha!
Is this real or satire?
Why not just go sign up for (((ISIS))) ?
Most of the benefits (comeraderie, common goal, respect from the community, survival skills, male bonding) are all there.
And the mission is fundamentally flawed for both.

If you asked me this a year ago I would tell you to become a Boy Scout leader. But they have now eviscerated the Boy Scouts. Maybe military adventurism is the only option left. But advocating killing others seems like univerally bad advice, no matter someone's situation.
 

skullmask

Woodpecker
Protestant
If you asked me this a year ago I would tell you to become a Boy Scout leader. But they have now eviscerated the Boy Scouts. Maybe military adventurism is the only option left. But advocating killing others seems like univerally bad advice, no matter someone's situation.

You don't have to kill people in the military if you get the right job. Most jobs these days are support roles anyways. For one, you could learn mechanics or do IT. There's nothing wrong with joining to learn useful skills. Just keep in mind that all the hoorah usa! Usa! Usa! Stuff is BS. The globalists are gonna use you as a pawn, but as long as you stick to POG duty and keep learning you will do well. Then use the GI Bill when you get out.
 

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
You don't have to kill people in the military if you get the right job. Most jobs these days are support roles anyways. For one, you could learn mechanics or do IT. There's nothing wrong with joining to learn useful skills. Just keep in mind that all the hoorah usa! Usa! Usa! Stuff is BS. The globalists are gonna use you as a pawn, but as long as you stick to POG duty and keep learning you will do well. Then use the GI Bill when you get out.
Oh absolutely. But an above poster was recommending someone "blow a person away" which is what I found shocking and absurd advice.

Really since 1945 the vast majority of US military jobs are just bureaucracy with some field trips thrown in. I realized this years ago when I accompanied a friend to her air force base, and she pointed out all the buildings and what went on where. I finally asked where the airstrip was and she replied there was no airstrip any more. I could barely stop from laughing out loud. Here was a base where thousands of people ostensibly were all there for the singular purpose of supporting pilots (who did live on the base) to fly planes, or at least train to fly planes so they could fly them when needed in the real world, and there were no planes nor places to land them. It's like all these people were part of the Matrix, or of some weird Emperor's New Clothes charade.

I realized the entire point of this base had nothing to do with flying planes, but was merely a jobs program, a way to keep people busy, a way to make transfer payments in a more productive way than just doling out welfare payments, basically a public works project. The military internationally is an absolute disaster for anyone abroad it touches, but domestically it's mostly an employment, job training, and welfare program.

That said, I'm far too independent minded to handle that (can't even deal with corporate America) and have serious moral problems with what I would be helping to accomplish to ever be a part of it, but I view it as far, far, far less malignant than I once did after that experience.
 
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