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<blockquote data-quote="Dr Mantis Toboggan" data-source="post: 1358525" data-attributes="member: 14493"><p>Served in the Army for 6 years. I'll go against the grain, I would recommend it. Either go combat arms or some sort of MOS (military job) where you will learn a skill or get a certification that will open doors for you after the military--whether that's language school, a trade, security clearance, etc. Flight school checks several of these boxes, you may want to look into the Army warrant officer program which allows you to apply for flight school right off the street. The main reason I recommend it is the discipline it instills in most people.</p><p></p><p>In way of benefits, the GI Bill is a big one--not only covers your tuition but pays a living stipend based on the cost of living where your school is located--I was going to school in the Midwest (not a major city) and getting around $1200/month tax free in addition to free tuition. I haven't seen the VA home loan mentioned in this thread and that's a huge one, arguably just as big of a benefit as the GI Bill and often overlooked (mainly because most people have never heard of it unless either they or a family member are or were serving themselves, or they work in residential real estate). Essentially you can take out a home loan with no money down and no mortgage insurance, typically with a slightly better interest rate than you would otherwise qualify for. It can also be used as many times as you want with the caveat that there is a cap on the total amount you have loaned at any given time (I think around 500-750k depending on where you live), although even that is flexible as you can borrow more by putting down 25% of the difference. This is a fantastic tool for building wealth if you use it smartly. I've bought 2 houses in the last ~18 months using it--only primary residences are eligible for the program but you can buy a house, live in it for a year, then buy a new house (if this takes you over the cap either put the 25% down or refinance the original loan)--buy a house you expect to appreciate significantly and that you can be OK living in temporarily even if it isn't your dream house, stay there for a year or two, then buy a new house, move into it, rent out the old one, repeat.</p><p></p><p>There is a SJW undercurrent in the military but isn't nearly as bad as in corporate America (based on my experience serving in the Obama years and later working for a large corporation). Although at least for me it could be more annoying at times because you have the feeling that there isn't "supposed to be" SJWism in the military, if that makes sense.</p><p></p><p>As far as the ethical dilemma....I wouldn't suggest it unless you are proud of your country and wish to defend it, even if you don't like what it has turned into now, at least the ideals. The right's biggest failure over the last ~50 years or so has been to allow the left to completely take over most of our institutions--academia, the media, entertainment, government bureaucracy, etc. The military is one of the few that has not yet been completely subverted. What happens if conservatives stop raising their hands to enlist (or commission)? We, as in the future of the country and western civilization, need conservatives in the military and--I'll catch heat for saying this--we also need conservatives joining the three letter agencies. If things go to shit civilization-wise you'll either still be in, and able to work on the inside, or out but with skills and experience you can use to help defend your family and community.</p><p></p><p>I will say, make sure your account here is airtight and make sure you don't have anything on social media that would raise eyebrows, in particular if you have any references to ((())) stuff on social media I would scrub it immediately.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr Mantis Toboggan, post: 1358525, member: 14493"] Served in the Army for 6 years. I'll go against the grain, I would recommend it. Either go combat arms or some sort of MOS (military job) where you will learn a skill or get a certification that will open doors for you after the military--whether that's language school, a trade, security clearance, etc. Flight school checks several of these boxes, you may want to look into the Army warrant officer program which allows you to apply for flight school right off the street. The main reason I recommend it is the discipline it instills in most people. In way of benefits, the GI Bill is a big one--not only covers your tuition but pays a living stipend based on the cost of living where your school is located--I was going to school in the Midwest (not a major city) and getting around $1200/month tax free in addition to free tuition. I haven't seen the VA home loan mentioned in this thread and that's a huge one, arguably just as big of a benefit as the GI Bill and often overlooked (mainly because most people have never heard of it unless either they or a family member are or were serving themselves, or they work in residential real estate). Essentially you can take out a home loan with no money down and no mortgage insurance, typically with a slightly better interest rate than you would otherwise qualify for. It can also be used as many times as you want with the caveat that there is a cap on the total amount you have loaned at any given time (I think around 500-750k depending on where you live), although even that is flexible as you can borrow more by putting down 25% of the difference. This is a fantastic tool for building wealth if you use it smartly. I've bought 2 houses in the last ~18 months using it--only primary residences are eligible for the program but you can buy a house, live in it for a year, then buy a new house (if this takes you over the cap either put the 25% down or refinance the original loan)--buy a house you expect to appreciate significantly and that you can be OK living in temporarily even if it isn't your dream house, stay there for a year or two, then buy a new house, move into it, rent out the old one, repeat. There is a SJW undercurrent in the military but isn't nearly as bad as in corporate America (based on my experience serving in the Obama years and later working for a large corporation). Although at least for me it could be more annoying at times because you have the feeling that there isn't "supposed to be" SJWism in the military, if that makes sense. As far as the ethical dilemma....I wouldn't suggest it unless you are proud of your country and wish to defend it, even if you don't like what it has turned into now, at least the ideals. The right's biggest failure over the last ~50 years or so has been to allow the left to completely take over most of our institutions--academia, the media, entertainment, government bureaucracy, etc. The military is one of the few that has not yet been completely subverted. What happens if conservatives stop raising their hands to enlist (or commission)? We, as in the future of the country and western civilization, need conservatives in the military and--I'll catch heat for saying this--we also need conservatives joining the three letter agencies. If things go to shit civilization-wise you'll either still be in, and able to work on the inside, or out but with skills and experience you can use to help defend your family and community. I will say, make sure your account here is airtight and make sure you don't have anything on social media that would raise eyebrows, in particular if you have any references to ((())) stuff on social media I would scrub it immediately. [/QUOTE]
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