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<blockquote data-quote="The Beast1" data-source="post: 1435522" data-attributes="member: 4882"><p><strong>Your post is the biggest problem with modern Christians today.</strong></p><p>I mean this as respectfully as possible. This false idea is rooted in good intentions but completely misses the historical, cultural, and theological context of Jesus' sermon on the mount. </p><p><strong>Full Stop</strong></p><p>Jesus' words in Matthew 5:39 and Luke 6:29 were in relation to a concept that is foreign to westerners. Face and honor.</p><p></p><p>"Turning the cheek" after being slapped with the left hand means they now have to slap you with their right hand. To the 1st century Jew, doing this was a huge insult. A big no-no. It's a clever inversion of a common insult.</p><p></p><p>He's telling you to let the easy stuff go. If someone slights your honor, who cares? Life goes on. Take a wild guess where this type of lesson has failed to take route: you're right, in places like the Middle East and China. It's an insufferable s**thole of having to deal with fragile egos.</p><p></p><p>Consequently, Jesus' sole law he gave us that supersedes old testament law is quite clear: loves others as you love yourself and to love God with all your heart.</p><p></p><p>I love my family a lot and something that I love deserves to not be hurt. If someone hurts something that I love, it is OK and holy for me to defend them because clearly if the assailant loved themselves, they wouldn't treat others that way.</p><p></p><p>[USER=18034]@DanielH[/USER] is right, we live in a fallen world and need to be active defenders of those we love. Not doormats.</p><p></p><p>The lie that Christians have to be passive wimps and doormats is an inversion by certain (((people))) to weaken Christians and their nations.</p><p></p><p>Another note: why are you going back to the old testament to try to figure out if something fits with God's law or not? Do you go back to an expired apartment lease contract to decide if it's OK for you to own a dog in your new apartment?</p><p></p><p>No! You go to the current one, which is the New Testament for what fits with God's law.</p><p></p><p>The only purpose the old testament has is to prove that God fulfilled the promises that happened in the New Testament. Only Jews concern themselves with the laws of the old testament.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Beast1, post: 1435522, member: 4882"] [B]Your post is the biggest problem with modern Christians today.[/B] I mean this as respectfully as possible. This false idea is rooted in good intentions but completely misses the historical, cultural, and theological context of Jesus' sermon on the mount. [B]Full Stop[/B] Jesus' words in Matthew 5:39 and Luke 6:29 were in relation to a concept that is foreign to westerners. Face and honor. "Turning the cheek" after being slapped with the left hand means they now have to slap you with their right hand. To the 1st century Jew, doing this was a huge insult. A big no-no. It's a clever inversion of a common insult. He's telling you to let the easy stuff go. If someone slights your honor, who cares? Life goes on. Take a wild guess where this type of lesson has failed to take route: you're right, in places like the Middle East and China. It's an insufferable s**thole of having to deal with fragile egos. Consequently, Jesus' sole law he gave us that supersedes old testament law is quite clear: loves others as you love yourself and to love God with all your heart. I love my family a lot and something that I love deserves to not be hurt. If someone hurts something that I love, it is OK and holy for me to defend them because clearly if the assailant loved themselves, they wouldn't treat others that way. [USER=18034]@DanielH[/USER] is right, we live in a fallen world and need to be active defenders of those we love. Not doormats. The lie that Christians have to be passive wimps and doormats is an inversion by certain (((people))) to weaken Christians and their nations. Another note: why are you going back to the old testament to try to figure out if something fits with God's law or not? Do you go back to an expired apartment lease contract to decide if it's OK for you to own a dog in your new apartment? No! You go to the current one, which is the New Testament for what fits with God's law. The only purpose the old testament has is to prove that God fulfilled the promises that happened in the New Testament. Only Jews concern themselves with the laws of the old testament. [/QUOTE]
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