Jonah Hill apologies and nearly cries for calling paparazzo a faggot

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The Lizard of Oz

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Quintus Curtius said:
Just think of the mentality of the society we live in, where we can witness this kind of spectacle.

A person basically grovels like a beaten dog for using an "offensive" word.

QC, this is disgusting and despicable but not really new to the current society. This kind of maternalism run amok in which the most important thing is that no one can ever "offend" anyone else hearkens all the way back to the Victorian era and what might be called the "first wave" of maternalism.

This was well described in an excellent online comment on an essay about maternalism that Days of Broken Arrows posted about on the forum some months ago.

The problem I have with this analysis is that it is presenting this transformation as something new, of recent decades. This seems to be a common theme; conservatives trot it out constantly. Everything was some way until some point in time, then everything went awry. (The inverse of the Progressive view, in which everything was awful until they arrived and made things better, although... there is always a long way to go, etc etc).

It does not take much historical research to realise that this maternalist view has a long history, and that this is basically a resurgence of it, a "second wave". The first wave? The Victorian Era, Victorian values. It is oft ignored that the driving force of that cultural revolution was a religious fervour, and the driving force of that was upper class women. By the end of the revolution, the men who "ran" society has internalised the maternal values of those women; women from Hannah More to Josephine Butler to the Pankhursts, Susan B Anthony and Jane Addams.

The maternalist values we see in this second wave are identical to those of the first and, once more, being imposed at the political level by a mixture of female dominated campaigners and compliant males, whether in activism or politics. Temperance, the white slave panic, obscenity hysteria, the infantilisation of everyone, the promotion of a lifestyle interventionist state... all of this is identical to that of 100 years ago, even down to a new masturbation panic (nowadays the cod-science is "rewiring brains" and "addicted to brain chemicals" and so on). There is nothing new about this at all. And, just as last time, it is the "moral domination" of women- the basic idea that women represent a preferable moral ideal, and are the guardians of it- at its source.

In between, we had a period where the bourgeois matrons stopped "minding the store" and everyone got distracted by Marxism, etc; and thus a reactionary anti-puritan liberalism appeared in the 1960s- a period which is now suffereing a ruthless damnatio memoriae as the Second Wave bites.

But the idea that this is some New Thing is just plain wrong. This is the Victorian/Progressive Era Mark II. And there is no "zombie" feminism. Feminism, as a movement, is always and only those upper class matrons, and their puritans ideals. whatever "wave" you want to call it. The so-called "gender" or "radical" feminists were simply a revival of the likes of Addams, Anthony, Butler and Pankhurst and the Social Purity Movement, with a new gloss on it. As Spinal Tap said, "The more it stays the same, the less it changes".

It is important to remember that this kind of social climate is not something entirely or radically new, and owes a great deal to some of the worst undercurrents of the (otherwise glorious) Anglo-American tradition.
 

cooledcannon

 
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Roosh said:
Good news for Jonah: the mob approves of his groveling...

It's such a well constructed apology, it's almost diabolical.

"Use me as an example of what not to do," is practically poetry. I feel like we're on a date and Hill is saying all the right things. Please, Jonah, keep murmuring these words of compassion and social awareness into my ears. You're totally going to to score tonight (no homo).

http://gawker.com/jonah-hill-issues-perfect-apology-for-saying-faggot-1585900792

How is saying 'no homo' acceptable to the PC crowd?

"No homo" makes everything acceptable, and not homo at all.

For example:

Saying "I love sucking guys dicks and getting fucked up the ass. No homo.", means you are not homo.

More seriously, i thought "no homo" is standard for liberals to say. Not really for the enemies of liberals to say.
 

Sherman

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Would this even be considered news if journalism in the US was legitimate? Oh yes, I forgot. The PC Nazis have to teach the rest of us how to behave or else. Or maybe it is in honor of LGBT year, LGBT month, LGBT hour, or LGBT second.
 

Ensam

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cooledcannon said:
More seriously, i thought "no homo" is standard for liberals to say. Not really for the enemies of liberals to say.

Right. I think the link was pretty liberal if I'm not mistaken. It seems to me as an outside observer that the PC police would find 'no homo' offensive because it implies that the speaker thinks being a homosexual is a bad thing and wants to break the association. It's exactly the same thing as saying 'I'm not a fag'.
 
I have a friend who met Jonah Hill and went out on a date with him-- ONE date. Shes a 6, 7 on a good day. She denied him sex and he went crazy. Sent her dick pics on snapchat and was whining and begging her to meet up with him and give him a chance. After a while she stopped replying and he sent 10 text messages and left a couple of voice mails in a 2 day period (all the while without her responding).
I wouldn't have believed this, but she showed me the text messages, voice mails and pictures she took with him.
This guy is a classic beta with absolutely 0 game, just fame game. This video only confirms it.
 

MidniteSpecial

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Roosh said:
If I was in the spotlight like Jonah Hill is, I would've definitely apologised.

He already made millions... if anyone is any position to tell the PC police to fuck off, it's him.

He wants to make more though. And this PC apology (I mean bitch ass apology) will ensure he does.

Hollywood has cut off people for less.

He's in a small group of celebs and he wants to stay that way. Those are feelings of fear that prompted that apology.
 

MidniteSpecial

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RenewalMan said:
I have a friend who met Jonah Hill and went out on a date with him-- ONE date. Shes a 6, 7 on a good day. She denied him sex and he went crazy. Sent her dick pics on snapchat and was whining and begging her to meet up with him and give him a chance. After a while she stopped replying and he sent 10 text messages and left a couple of voice mails in a 2 day period (all the while without her responding).
I wouldn't have believed this, but she showed me the text messages, voice mails and pictures she took with him.
This guy is a classic beta with absolutely 0 game, just fame game. This video only confirms it.


Yup. He's a hoe. I've been around him a few times. He is cocky funny but doesn't know how to translate that to females and game. He lacks the cold heart.
 

Jukes

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This guy role in movies (especially that cancel Fox show Allen Gregory) mainly consist of gay jokes, so I find it funny he called someone a faggot. It is necessary that he does apologize.
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Roosh said:
"How to lose respect for a heterosexual man in one video."

Nah, no-one ever respected this guy.

I would have doubled down: "They're going to boycott me? Like fags would refuse to see my movies as long as there's the possibility Channing Tatum might get his shirt off."
 

M3B

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Roosh said:
If I was in the spotlight like Jonah Hill is, I would've definitely apologised.

He already made millions... if anyone is any position to tell the PC police to fuck off, it's him.

Well, that's discounting his ambitions in the film industry, and that I'm sure he wants to continue working in it.

It's all well and good having the money, but I'm sure he wants to make more films. With this looming over his head and telling the "PC police to fuck off", what are the chances that any producer would want to touch him again?

If you or I had made his millions, sure, we could be a bit more blasé about it. But he's doing what he loves, and there's no point in throwing it in jeopardy.

The majority will accept his apology and that's who it's targeted at. The small minority of people like us, I'm sure he doesn't give a fuck.
 

Deluge

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The guy would've gone gone through career suicide if he hadn't apologized. Having a reputation for being racist or homophobic would've gotten him blacklisted from Hollywood, no one wants to be the next Mel Gibson. Despite all the macho posturing if push came to shove I highly doubt any guy with his income, career, reputation, A-list Hollywood social circle and unlimited fame pussy on the line wouldn't have apologized in his situation. Losing all that just isn't worth not going out and saying sorry for damage control.

That said, his apology was gay as fuck and painful to watch, and you can tell he was being sincere about it too :gay: He had to apologize, but he didn't have to be a little bitch about it. That shit was weak on a whole other level.
 

The Beast1

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With the exception of Danny Mcbridge, I never really cared for Hill and the new "funny man" crew of Franco, Rogan, Baruchel, Cera, and any of the other people that have appeared in Superbad, that super hero movie, and the like. Most of them are either fat or skinny fat.
 

Vaun

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Roosh said:
If I was in the spotlight like Jonah Hill is, I would've definitely apologised.

He already made millions... if anyone is any position to tell the PC police to fuck off, it's him.

He's groveling because he has a new movie opening. And how the hell did he get fat again?
 

Foolsgo1d

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Skye said:
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Does anyone really care about what this fat fuck does?

America, we care more about someone famous' opinions and verbal blunders than local and state politics, education, healthcare, the earth, etc., combined.

I think you're missing half the other countries in the world too.
 

kosko

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MattC said:
You can't judge celebrities and famous people in the same way you'd judge one of us for reacting this way. Kdog has nailed it.

If you're in the media, you absolutely have to subscribe to their agendas in order to thrive in that business. His repercussions could be massive for trying to let it slide and coming on TV and sticking by his stance that calling someone a faggot for pissing him off is fine.

If I had to apologise at the investment bank I used to work at for calling someone a faggot for the sake of my career, I most likely would've done it. If I was in the spotlight like Jonah Hill is, I would've definitely apologised. There's a massive backlash millions of people over for someone in his position.

I suppose that's the price you pay by being in the spotlight. You must tow the line.

I get it and your right. But. Release a statement. Get your publicist lady to write some soft shit and release that. Don't grovel as a man on TV like a bitch.

I would of just release a statement and told people I'm not speaking on it anymore. Simple.
 

Meadowlark

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Dude, fuck that noise. Assuming he has "fuck you money" (a few million) you just stick to your guns and if that's the end of your career so be it. Take the money and live in paradise somewhere for the rest of your life.
 

kbell

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Actors hardly ever seem to have fuck you money. They spend too much and live extravagant lives. They don't tend to save since they probably just started making tons from the start of their career. I would think that someone like Harrison Ford who started in I believe Bike repair, could survive a pc witch-hunt since he can survive on low money. Do you think Jonah could do something similar? Work fixing cars or plumbing?

He was losing quite a bit of weight. Perhaps audiences didn't find him funny since he wasn't the jolly funny old fatty stereotype anymore. So to hold onto his roles he had to gain weight? The guy does have the acting range of Will Ferrell, were he plays the same character in every movie.
 
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