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RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
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Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sexual abuse
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Jetset
Ostrich
Having read parts of that Jezebel article, my sense is that Smith is a weird fuck who ignores red flags who dates weird fucks who ignore red flags, and their mutual unmanaged de facto autisms inevitably collide.
His idea of "rape apologism" is overly informed by his own experiences of being rejected and the resulting suspicion that men who succeed with women must be doing something shady and immoral, as well as his lack of basic adult awareness that people have their own private lives and aren't fully transparent with people they've just met. Instead of walking away from a date who doesn't live up to his expectations, he sulks, whines, rages, and cajoles because another "the one" has let him down. Smith sounds like the kind of grievance-obsessed scarcity-mindset beta who eventually ends up taking the black pill when his frustrations boil over and making a shaky YouTube video before he murders an ex.
The women, on the other hand, are taking his nitpicking, pervasive sense of being wronged, and babyish entitlement and re-imagining this half-baked man-child that they could have laughed at and walked away from at any time, into a monster. His low-grade celebrity was enough to get his foot in the door, but he is so utterly gameless that they don't know how to react other than to be angry that they allowed him to play at all. They don't even really know how to describe what's wrong with it, just that it feels gross. They are left "disturbed".
This one quoted above started out receptive a third-date provider bang to keep him on the hook, until he totally mishandled her shit-test about Tinder and started acting like a creepy chump. Even at that point, he'd have had a chance of recovering if he'd just gone home and soft nexted her, leaving her to wonder if he's getting a blowjob elsewhere that night, but no. He has to have an hour-long argument in her apartment over whether she is 27 or 28, demonstrating, conclusively, that he is the lowest of low-value men with no other options and nothing better to do with his time. He was literally becoming less desirable by the minute.
His idea of "rape apologism" is overly informed by his own experiences of being rejected and the resulting suspicion that men who succeed with women must be doing something shady and immoral, as well as his lack of basic adult awareness that people have their own private lives and aren't fully transparent with people they've just met. Instead of walking away from a date who doesn't live up to his expectations, he sulks, whines, rages, and cajoles because another "the one" has let him down. Smith sounds like the kind of grievance-obsessed scarcity-mindset beta who eventually ends up taking the black pill when his frustrations boil over and making a shaky YouTube video before he murders an ex.
The women, on the other hand, are taking his nitpicking, pervasive sense of being wronged, and babyish entitlement and re-imagining this half-baked man-child that they could have laughed at and walked away from at any time, into a monster. His low-grade celebrity was enough to get his foot in the door, but he is so utterly gameless that they don't know how to react other than to be angry that they allowed him to play at all. They don't even really know how to describe what's wrong with it, just that it feels gross. They are left "disturbed".
This one quoted above started out receptive a third-date provider bang to keep him on the hook, until he totally mishandled her shit-test about Tinder and started acting like a creepy chump. Even at that point, he'd have had a chance of recovering if he'd just gone home and soft nexted her, leaving her to wonder if he's getting a blowjob elsewhere that night, but no. He has to have an hour-long argument in her apartment over whether she is 27 or 28, demonstrating, conclusively, that he is the lowest of low-value men with no other options and nothing better to do with his time. He was literally becoming less desirable by the minute.
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Seems he swallowed the left-wing black pill a while back. From his Medium (archive) in 2015.
Some unconnected notes about Tinder
His conclusion:
In short he is angry that there aren't forces in society that have increased his worth while he does nothing. He wants to turn up and bang, but hasn't realised basic parameters of the game.
It appears he was living as a down and out bum for years, before getting a break in journalism in about 2014 - the year social justice exploded. And it's a niche he made a name for himself in. He probably thought it entitled himself to a few moody, masochistic coercion bangs with office hotties. Maybe don't make your career producing rope for others to hang you with next time.
Another victim of soycilism.
Jetset said:
Seems he swallowed the left-wing black pill a while back. From his Medium (archive) in 2015.
Some unconnected notes about Tinder
His conclusion:
In short he is angry that there aren't forces in society that have increased his worth while he does nothing. He wants to turn up and bang, but hasn't realised basic parameters of the game.
It appears he was living as a down and out bum for years, before getting a break in journalism in about 2014 - the year social justice exploded. And it's a niche he made a name for himself in. He probably thought it entitled himself to a few moody, masochistic coercion bangs with office hotties. Maybe don't make your career producing rope for others to hang you with next time.
Another victim of soycilism.
Jetset
Ostrich
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Bleak, but concise and accurate.
Oh fuck, that's what he looked like four years ago? That body language tells you everything you need to know.
With the leather jacket and the fumbled efforts at rough sex, I suspected an attempted edgy reboot of a very lame persona, but I didn't realize it was an edgy reboot of Pee-wee Herman.
gework said:
Bleak, but concise and accurate.
Oh fuck, that's what he looked like four years ago? That body language tells you everything you need to know.
With the leather jacket and the fumbled efforts at rough sex, I suspected an attempted edgy reboot of a very lame persona, but I didn't realize it was an edgy reboot of Pee-wee Herman.
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Now you've pissed off this whole, noble family of glorious lineage!
^Me Ma still needz a caravan!
^Ain't nothin' wrong with me lineage!
Roosh, to make amend, you'll have to buy Jack Smith IV's mother a new caravan. "Fair deal, take it!"
^Buying a tart's mobile palace...
Roosh said:In December 2017 Jack Smith IV (of what I'm sure is a noble lineage) wrote:
Now you've pissed off this whole, noble family of glorious lineage!
^Me Ma still needz a caravan!
^Ain't nothin' wrong with me lineage!
Roosh, to make amend, you'll have to buy Jack Smith IV's mother a new caravan. "Fair deal, take it!"
^Buying a tart's mobile palace...
The Stronger Sex
Kingfisher
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
The typical Nice Guy cycle. Become a feminist SJW to please women, as you live for their approval. Find a job as a feminist ally working among women who will hopefully appreciate what a right-on guy you are and how different you are from those sexist Chad pigs. Become a hysterical bitch when your fragile ego feels threatened (and your fragile ego feels threatened all he time when you're a needy beta), revealing how pathetically weak and unnice you really are, losing any crumbs of respect she might have for you.
Jetset said:
The typical Nice Guy cycle. Become a feminist SJW to please women, as you live for their approval. Find a job as a feminist ally working among women who will hopefully appreciate what a right-on guy you are and how different you are from those sexist Chad pigs. Become a hysterical bitch when your fragile ego feels threatened (and your fragile ego feels threatened all he time when you're a needy beta), revealing how pathetically weak and unnice you really are, losing any crumbs of respect she might have for you.
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
I don’t doubt that he begrudgingly watched some Nick Krauser and Tom Torero pick up field videos and decided to reboot with the faux bad boy r selected persona.
Jetset said:gework said:
Bleak, but concise and accurate.
Oh fuck, that's what he looked like four years ago? That body language tells you everything you need to know.
With the leather jacket and the fumbled efforts at rough sex, I suspected an attempted edgy reboot of a very lame persona, but I didn't realize it was an edgy reboot of Pee-wee Herman.
I don’t doubt that he begrudgingly watched some Nick Krauser and Tom Torero pick up field videos and decided to reboot with the faux bad boy r selected persona.
"Emotional abuse" has to be the vaguest and most easily bullshittable form of "abuse" there is. Even when it's real and legitimate, it's still incredibly easy to get away from. Unless you are a child who is not able to walk away from such a scenario - being a victim of continued "emotional abuse" is entirely your own fault.
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Make no mistake: this guy is a fuckstain, especially for repeating the favorite lie of leftists that Roosh "supports rape". Jack SmitHIV certainly made a deal with the devil and largely brought this on himself.
BUT... a number of guys here are probably overestimating his actions and forgetting the climate we all live in. "Emotional abuse" descriptions in feminist rags like Jezebel are ripe for hyperbole and histrionic chronicles of female pseudo-victimhood, not just about the women's feelings and responses, but also regarding what the guy did.
Whilst it's very easy to totally conflate his soy politics with the behavior Jezebel describes (therefore believing Jezebel's typist and the accusers), we need something of a timeout to consider things.
I'm not convinced he humiliated them at all.
I get what you're saying, but I think we can all agree that the pro-SJW/feminist political climate is wood-chipping guys who behave in accordance with healthy notions of masculinity.
It's hard for us to allege that feminism is attacking real acts of masculinity while we simultaneously insist that a ZFG or similar attitude will prevent girls from making false accusations in the first place.
The idea that being a ZFG guy is a kind of prophylactic against this #MeToo movement is patently absurd because:
1) No man is ZFG all the time;
2) A ZFG guy is not always going to come across as ZFG to others, even when he is actually not giving any fucks (lost in translation mode), or that ZFG display won't win them over and may actually offend. The type of girl, her fluctuating moods, and other factors all affect how it's received; and
3) The incentives for flimsy rape and now emotional abuse claims - attention, fame, new careers, validation, socially sanctioned excuses for personal addictions/failures, and money - are bigger than ever before and it's hard to see how a ZFG mentality is going to be the panacea it's made out to be (I'm sure Harvey Weinstein was ZFG with at least some of the women he fucked, women who later accused him of rape).
Make no mistake: this guy is a fuckstain, especially for repeating the favorite lie of leftists that Roosh "supports rape". Jack SmitHIV certainly made a deal with the devil and largely brought this on himself.
BUT... a number of guys here are probably overestimating his actions and forgetting the climate we all live in. "Emotional abuse" descriptions in feminist rags like Jezebel are ripe for hyperbole and histrionic chronicles of female pseudo-victimhood, not just about the women's feelings and responses, but also regarding what the guy did.
Whilst it's very easy to totally conflate his soy politics with the behavior Jezebel describes (therefore believing Jezebel's typist and the accusers), we need something of a timeout to consider things.
Bill Brasky said:
I'm not convinced he humiliated them at all.
I get what you're saying, but I think we can all agree that the pro-SJW/feminist political climate is wood-chipping guys who behave in accordance with healthy notions of masculinity.
It's hard for us to allege that feminism is attacking real acts of masculinity while we simultaneously insist that a ZFG or similar attitude will prevent girls from making false accusations in the first place.
The idea that being a ZFG guy is a kind of prophylactic against this #MeToo movement is patently absurd because:
1) No man is ZFG all the time;
2) A ZFG guy is not always going to come across as ZFG to others, even when he is actually not giving any fucks (lost in translation mode), or that ZFG display won't win them over and may actually offend. The type of girl, her fluctuating moods, and other factors all affect how it's received; and
3) The incentives for flimsy rape and now emotional abuse claims - attention, fame, new careers, validation, socially sanctioned excuses for personal addictions/failures, and money - are bigger than ever before and it's hard to see how a ZFG mentality is going to be the panacea it's made out to be (I'm sure Harvey Weinstein was ZFG with at least some of the women he fucked, women who later accused him of rape).
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Yep. I've been in relationships with women where I was emotionally abused, and I chose to stay. 100% my responsibility. Still, I think part of the problem is that people (men especially) don't even know what emotional abuse is, and so we're less likely to recognize when it's happening to us and thus take action. Maybe another example of MeToo being a double-edged blade will be men waking up in this particular way, walking away from a shit deal when we see one.
General Stalin said:
Yep. I've been in relationships with women where I was emotionally abused, and I chose to stay. 100% my responsibility. Still, I think part of the problem is that people (men especially) don't even know what emotional abuse is, and so we're less likely to recognize when it's happening to us and thus take action. Maybe another example of MeToo being a double-edged blade will be men waking up in this particular way, walking away from a shit deal when we see one.
Jetset
Ostrich
I think I just realized something.
Jack Smith I:
[img=360x256]https://49yzp92imhtx8radn224z7y1-wp...6/Algemeiner_2014_summer_benefit-39.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith II:
[img=256x256]https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagra...2828160773756_8237724381552312320_n.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith III:
[img=320x256]https://media.breitbart.com/media/2...678546_792463429661068874_n-Cropped.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith IV:
[img=320x256]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C60XNuWXAAEF0QF.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith V will be a gigantic justice war machine made entirely of the other Jack Smiths.
[img=400x256]https://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/megazord-original-toy.jpg[/img]
EDIT: Shit, turns out I am not the first person to come up with this bit.
Jack Smith I:
[img=360x256]https://49yzp92imhtx8radn224z7y1-wp...6/Algemeiner_2014_summer_benefit-39.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith II:
[img=256x256]https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagra...2828160773756_8237724381552312320_n.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith III:
[img=320x256]https://media.breitbart.com/media/2...678546_792463429661068874_n-Cropped.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith IV:
[img=320x256]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C60XNuWXAAEF0QF.jpg[/img]
Jack Smith V will be a gigantic justice war machine made entirely of the other Jack Smiths.
[img=400x256]https://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/megazord-original-toy.jpg[/img]
EDIT: Shit, turns out I am not the first person to come up with this bit.
John Michael Kane
Crow
Has a straight (non-Italian) dude ever worn such an outfit? I'd wager a few bucks on closet homo.
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Jack Smith seems to have so little self identity that he appears to be picking identities from fiction:
Jack 1: Shit Patrick Bateman
Jack 2: Shit Mafia Don.
Jack 3: Shit Doctor Who
Jack 4: Shit XXX.
OP Jack: He certainly looks like a macho, macho man.
Jetset said:
Jack Smith seems to have so little self identity that he appears to be picking identities from fiction:
Jack 1: Shit Patrick Bateman
Jack 2: Shit Mafia Don.
Jack 3: Shit Doctor Who
Jack 4: Shit XXX.
OP Jack: He certainly looks like a macho, macho man.
The Stronger Sex
Kingfisher
RE: Journalist who called me "rape apologist blogger" has been fired for sex...
Ironically he has rapist eyes. The kind that try to say "I'm a bad boy alpha male" but actually say "I sneak into the bedrooms of girls I don't know to sniff their used underwear".
Ironically he has rapist eyes. The kind that try to say "I'm a bad boy alpha male" but actually say "I sneak into the bedrooms of girls I don't know to sniff their used underwear".