Julian Assange thread

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
I would frame the pardon as not gaoling journalists.

I like this idea. It would be excellent trolling to pardon him or commute his sentence (after some presumed conviction) and then lecture the media about the importance of free speech.
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.
 

Batka

 
Jimmy Dore says that the very MSM journalist, liberal hacks who speak out about 'press freedom' will be the ones cheering on Assange's potential arrest and extradition to the US even if it means cutting their own throats. This is a war on press freedom. No more, no less.


What a truly fucked up world we live in.
 

TravelerKai

Peacock
Gold Member
Samseau said:
I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.

Well using the extradition treaty they get hackers from Western European countries and can convict them here and make them serve time. They likely cannot charge him with publishing classified information as a foreign alien and he is not an enemy combatant either.

They likely can charge him with some of the things they charge hackers like the guy from the UK that hacked NASA or that Russian guy that helped created the Zeus trojan variants and took a vacation to France getting arrested the second the left the plane.

Likely they will get him on conspiracy to commit computer fraud, perhaps they will use Bradley Manning and other former Intelligence agents, now in prison, to testify that he was in cohorts with them as they stole sensitive US military data from government owned computers or that he encouraged them.

A jury full of stay at home white women could find him guilty of that due to the fact that they are airheaded. His lawyers better get some men with an IT background in that pool if they know what is good for them. Maybe a woman packed jury is better, I am not an elite criminal lawyer so I do not know, but it would seem risky because we do know for a fact that women are more impressed with legal authority than men are.
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
TravelerKai said:
Samseau said:
I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.

Well using the extradition treaty they get hackers from Western European countries and can convict them here and make them serve time. They likely cannot charge him with publishing classified information as a foreign alien and he is not an enemy combatant either.

They likely can charge him with some of the things they charge hackers like the guy from the UK that hacked NASA or that Russian guy that helped created the Zeus trojan variants and took a vacation to France getting arrested the second the left the plane.

Likely they will get him on conspiracy to commit computer fraud, perhaps they will use Bradley Manning and other former Intelligence agents, now in prison, to testify that he was in cohorts with them as they stole sensitive US military data from government owned computers or that he encouraged them.

A jury full of stay at home white women could find him guilty of that due to the fact that they are airheaded. His lawyers better get some men with an IT background in that pool if they know what is good for them. Maybe a woman packed jury is better, I am not an elite criminal lawyer so I do not know, but it would seem risky because we do know for a fact that women are more impressed with legal authority than men are.

But how will they prove he hacked anything?

Otherwise, his offenses are publishing classified information, which is protected by the First Amendment.
 

TravelerKai

Peacock
Gold Member
Samseau said:
TravelerKai said:
Samseau said:
I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.

Well using the extradition treaty they get hackers from Western European countries and can convict them here and make them serve time. They likely cannot charge him with publishing classified information as a foreign alien and he is not an enemy combatant either.

They likely can charge him with some of the things they charge hackers like the guy from the UK that hacked NASA or that Russian guy that helped created the Zeus trojan variants and took a vacation to France getting arrested the second the left the plane.

Likely they will get him on conspiracy to commit computer fraud, perhaps they will use Bradley Manning and other former Intelligence agents, now in prison, to testify that he was in cohorts with them as they stole sensitive US military data from government owned computers or that he encouraged them.

A jury full of stay at home white women could find him guilty of that due to the fact that they are airheaded. His lawyers better get some men with an IT background in that pool if they know what is good for them. Maybe a woman packed jury is better, I am not an elite criminal lawyer so I do not know, but it would seem risky because we do know for a fact that women are more impressed with legal authority than men are.

But how will they prove he hacked anything?

Otherwise, his offenses are publishing classified information, which is protected by the First Amendment.

The first amendment only protects Americans, not foreigners. Not a good idea to chase foreigners for violating our speech regulations, but that is an option.

They will get him on conspiracy to commit computer fraud because the other perps did it and he published what they stole. They will probably get Manning or others that are currently in prison to say Julian encouraged them. I bet they could still charge him with that for just receiving classified military documents and asking for things of that sort.

If they plant malwares and frame kiddie porn peddlers don't think they won't try to pin that on him either. Not like he will have the legal firepower to fight them off.

Again, it's iffy and sketch as hell. Sends mixed messages about what our country is about.

Trump should probably pardon him just on the basis of it would be embarrassing to watch them try and frame him of computer crimes we know he did not commit. Before a pardon though, they need him to cough up what he knows about Seth Rich and other matters if it is relevant. Huber will be the guy to interview him.

They can send him to Australia with request for home arrest and make him live with his mom and keep his passport for a while. He won't do anything stupid living there. AUS is somewhere between the USA and the oppressive UK regime on being Big Brother on their own people.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
'I was never in favour of his activities': Ecuador's president says Julian Assange MUST leave its London embassy as he confirms he is in talks with Britain about the situation

-Assange has been in London's Ecuador embassy since 2012, fearing extradition
-But Ecuador's president has now said Wikileaks founder must leave eventually
-Lenin Moreno said he has spoken to the British government about the situation

He said he had 'never been in favour' of the activities of the 47-year-old as he spoke at an event in Madrid, adding that Australian-born Assange will eventually need to leave the embassy.
Speculation about Assange's future has grown after reports that senior officials from Ecuador and Britain were now in discussion about how to remove him from the embassy after revocation of his asylum. A source close to him told Reuters the situation was coming to a head.

Moreno was in London this week to attend a global disabilities summit. But a British government spokesman said today the matter was not discussed during the recent visit.
Moreno said any eviction of Assange from the embassy had to be carried out correctly and through dialogue, but he displayed no sympathy for Assange's political agenda as a leaker of confidential documents.
'I have never been in favour of Mr Assange's activity,' Moreno said at an event in Madrid.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tain-Wikileaks-Assange-Ecuador-president.html
 

Caduceus

Pelican
We need another "October Surprise" from Assange before the 2018 US midterm elections on 6th of November 2018.

He came through for us in October 2016 with all the spirit cooking and pizzagate stuff....will he deliver again this time ?


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TravelerKai

Peacock
Gold Member
He is likely alive, just a political mess as they determine how far can they go in ruining his life without looking like flaming hypocrites on human rights. Knowing May and the UK lately, they will absolutely fuck this up and look like communist trash squishing an ant they do not like for writing things they do not like. With the Saudi journalist getting his dick lopped off, the timing is probably too poor to drag his ass out the embassy.
 

Caduceus

Pelican
Does anyone know that last time Assange was confirmed alive by appearing on the embassy balcony and/or window, or did an official interview/video livestream ?
 

AManLikePutin

Kingfisher
Poor guy....has been without access to internet, guests, just cut off from the world for past 8 months and now he is being indicted...I think he is done to be honest.


 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Remember those rape charges in Sweden?

Remember when people said it was a ruse to get Assange out of the country and into the loving arms of a FED super max prison?

Pepperridge farm remembers.
 

Orson

Kingfisher
Trump Lawyer Giuliani say Julian Assange Should Not Be Prosecuted

So said Rudy Giuliani during Fox News interview on Monday (December, 30th).

How his opinion may affect the DOJs sealed indictment of Assange for publishing classified documents is unclear. But this is the most optimistic note from the President's Office in recent months for defenders of Assange's freedom to publish as WikiLeaks founder and publisher.

Assange is in Ecuador's London Embassy, in refuge against British warrants for his arrest.

Here is an extract from the account of Giuliani's interview that appeared at Zero Hedge:
Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer for President Donald Trump, said Monday that WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange had not done “anything wrong” and should not go to jail for disseminating stolen information just as major media does.

“Let’s take the Pentagon Papers,” Giuliani told Fox News.

“The Pentagon Papers were stolen property, weren’t they? It was in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Nobody went to jail at The New York Times and The Washington Post.”


Giuliani said there were “revelations during the Bush administration” such as Abu Ghraib. “All of that is stolen property taken from the government, it’s against the law. But once it gets to a media publication, they can publish it,” Giuliani said, “for the purpose of informing people.”

“You can’t put Assange in a different position,” he said.

“He was a guy who communicated.”


Giuliani said, “We may not like what [Assange] communicates, but he was a media facility. He was putting that information out,” he said.

“Every newspaper and station grabbed it, and published it.”

The U.S. government has admitted that it has indicted Assange for publishing classified information, but it is battling in court [LINK in original] to keep the details of the indictment secret. As a lawyer and close advisor to Trump, Giuliani could have influence on the president’s and the Justice Department’s thinking on Assange. [EMPHASIS ADDED]

SOURCE
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-02/giuliani-says-assange-should-not-be-prosecuted
AND SEE Fox News interview video clip posted abovr
 

Kurgan

Kingfisher
If Julian is not prosecuted, does this mean he could possibly be helped by the U.S? It would help the country if he unleashes more dirty info. He struck a nerve with the Democrats after revealing Hillary's plan to sabotage Bernie and split her party in terms of votes. I'm sure he's got stuff on Republicans when they get bad.
 
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