I would frame the pardon as not gaoling journalists.
I like this idea. It would be excellent trolling to pardon him or commute his sentence (after some presumed conviction) and then lecture the media about the importance of free speech.
I would frame the pardon as not gaoling journalists.
Samseau said:I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.
TravelerKai said:Samseau said:I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.
Well using the extradition treaty they get hackers from Western European countries and can convict them here and make them serve time. They likely cannot charge him with publishing classified information as a foreign alien and he is not an enemy combatant either.
They likely can charge him with some of the things they charge hackers like the guy from the UK that hacked NASA or that Russian guy that helped created the Zeus trojan variants and took a vacation to France getting arrested the second the left the plane.
Likely they will get him on conspiracy to commit computer fraud, perhaps they will use Bradley Manning and other former Intelligence agents, now in prison, to testify that he was in cohorts with them as they stole sensitive US military data from government owned computers or that he encouraged them.
A jury full of stay at home white women could find him guilty of that due to the fact that they are airheaded. His lawyers better get some men with an IT background in that pool if they know what is good for them. Maybe a woman packed jury is better, I am not an elite criminal lawyer so I do not know, but it would seem risky because we do know for a fact that women are more impressed with legal authority than men are.
Samseau said:TravelerKai said:Samseau said:I honestly don't know if the Supreme Court will allow Julian to be imprisoned in the USA. Gonna be interesting as things come to a head for him. I do hope he stays free.
Well using the extradition treaty they get hackers from Western European countries and can convict them here and make them serve time. They likely cannot charge him with publishing classified information as a foreign alien and he is not an enemy combatant either.
They likely can charge him with some of the things they charge hackers like the guy from the UK that hacked NASA or that Russian guy that helped created the Zeus trojan variants and took a vacation to France getting arrested the second the left the plane.
Likely they will get him on conspiracy to commit computer fraud, perhaps they will use Bradley Manning and other former Intelligence agents, now in prison, to testify that he was in cohorts with them as they stole sensitive US military data from government owned computers or that he encouraged them.
A jury full of stay at home white women could find him guilty of that due to the fact that they are airheaded. His lawyers better get some men with an IT background in that pool if they know what is good for them. Maybe a woman packed jury is better, I am not an elite criminal lawyer so I do not know, but it would seem risky because we do know for a fact that women are more impressed with legal authority than men are.
But how will they prove he hacked anything?
Otherwise, his offenses are publishing classified information, which is protected by the First Amendment.
...existence of sealed charges (or a draft for them) against WikiLeaks' publisher Julian Assange
The U.S. has prepared an indictment against Julian Assange of WikiLeaks
Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer for President Donald Trump, said Monday that WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange had not done “anything wrong” and should not go to jail for disseminating stolen information just as major media does.
“Let’s take the Pentagon Papers,” Giuliani told Fox News.
“The Pentagon Papers were stolen property, weren’t they? It was in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Nobody went to jail at The New York Times and The Washington Post.”
Giuliani said there were “revelations during the Bush administration” such as Abu Ghraib. “All of that is stolen property taken from the government, it’s against the law. But once it gets to a media publication, they can publish it,” Giuliani said, “for the purpose of informing people.”
“You can’t put Assange in a different position,” he said.
“He was a guy who communicated.”
Giuliani said, “We may not like what [Assange] communicates, but he was a media facility. He was putting that information out,” he said.
“Every newspaper and station grabbed it, and published it.”
The U.S. government has admitted that it has indicted Assange for publishing classified information, but it is battling in court [LINK in original] to keep the details of the indictment secret. As a lawyer and close advisor to Trump, Giuliani could have influence on the president’s and the Justice Department’s thinking on Assange. [EMPHASIS ADDED]