Justin Bieber Baptized!!!

Dr. Howard

Peacock
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I thought he was already Christian. He might have been getting "re baptized" in a new Church. Either way, it's a great step, for his wife too.
Depends on the denomination, with baptists and some other evangelicals you first proclaim your salvation, and then later get baptized as a public affirmation, death to your old self and welcoming of the holy spirit. Some baptists will also get re-baptized as a renewing of their commitment to Christ if they have gone off the rails. Catholics and presbyterians you get infant baptism and you are set for life.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
Prediction: Christianity to become the cool thing to do within this decade
I sure hope so. It would be nice to see a renewing of faith, or revival as some places put it. The new madrid earth quake spawned a huge church revival in appalachia and the near south in the later 1800's as people were thankful to have survived what seemed like the end of the world.

Then as times get good, people get complacent and satan and the globalists infiltrate the church and water it down until another revival comes again.
 

Laner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I knew it was coming.

Pretty sure his wife was already Christian.

From the way some of his most hardcore female fans have been hating, gave me more confidence that he was actually going to go for it. I have always had a special hope for him, so this makes me happy.

5 minutes til the media spins Bieber as a Nazi.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
Interesting. Never knew Hailey (Baldwin) Bieber is the daughter of actor Stephen Baldwin.

I am not familiar with their church so I found this 2018 article.

Inside Hillsong: All About the Church That's Attracted the Likes of Justin Bieber and Chris Pratt
Despite its popularity in Hollywood with stars like Justin Bieber and Chris Pratt, Hillsong Church has come under fire for its conservative views

One of Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin‘s go-to date spots before their engagement? Church, of course.

The couple have been spotted attending services of the Hillsong Church during their whirlwind romance, heading to a church conference together in Miami last month before attending a service at Churchome Church in the town of Kirkland, Washington, a couple weeks later.

After Bieber canceled the remainder of his Purpose world tour in 2017, he turned to the church and pastor Carl Lentz as his support system.

“Justin has a really deep faith, and he truly loves God,” a source told PEOPLE at the time. “He has found a church family that accepts him and loves him for who he is, not for his fame or money.”

Selena Gomez often accompanied Bieber to services during their rekindled romance, and attended the church on her own as well. (The two dated on-and-off from 2010 to 2015, then were seeing each other again in the fall after Gomez broke up with The Weeknd. However, they pumped the brakes on their reconciliation in March.)

But Bieber isn’t the only celebrity presence in the evangelical, praise music- and worship-based congregation — everyone from Bono to Vanessa Hudgens to Nick Jonas has attended services. Even Chris Pratt and his new flame Katherine Schwarzenegger and her brother Patrick have checked it out.

There’s also a Kardashian-Jenner connection: Kendall and Kylie have dropped by for services, and Miami-based minister Rich Wilkerson — who famously performed Kim Kardashian and Kanye West‘s wedding ceremony— has often delivered sermons as a guest speaker (although he isn’t officially connected to the church’s team of clergy).

Originally based in Australia, the church brought its house of worship to New York City (Bieber’s congregation) in 2010. Over the years, Bieber has gotten close to Pastor Lentz, a church leader dubbed by many in the media as the “rock star pastor.”

Married to wife Laura — they met at Hillsong College, a school affiliated with the international organization — Lentz is based in N.Y.C. From a quick browse of his Instagram feed, the pastor is friendly with a bevy of entertainers and athletes, having shared selfies with everyone from JAY-Z and Wiz Khalifa to Kevin Durant.

Lentz and Bieber have grown close since the pastor performed the pop star’s impromptu baptism in 2014. Lentz called on his pal, the NBA player Tyson Chandler, to borrow his bathtub to baptize Bieber. “It was probably one of the most special things I’ve been a part of,” Lentz later told Oprah Winfrey of the experience.

Unlike many Christian congregations, the youth-saturated Hillsong congregation doesn’t meet in a chapel or sanctuary but rather popular music venues in the city and has hosted services at Irving Plaza and Hammerstein Ballroom. They’re also cool with worshipers coming in t-shirts, jeans and baseball caps.

And while it welcomes stars, the organization has launched its own chart-topping careers. Since forming in 1998, Hillsong United — a band of worship leaders that rotate in and out of the lineup — has released five studio albums, all of which have peaked at No. 1 on Billboard‘s US Christian Albums chart. Throughout Gomez’s Revival World Tour, she even covered Hillsong United’s “Transfiguration.”

Despite its popularity in Hollywood, the church has been criticized over its conservative views on gay people and abortion.

Pastor Lentz addressed abortion in a 2015 interview with GQ, saying, “If you sit down with me and you say, ‘Carl, I’m having an abortion,’ I’m going to say, ‘I think that you can have this child. I don’t know how hard it’s going to be. I could never imagine. I do know that my prayer is that God will give you peace to stand on this side with me. Should you choose another option, I will not turn my back on you. I will not vilify you. I will not hate you. I will not, I cannot, live your life. I love you regardless, but my prayer is that somehow, some way, you will see my view on this.'”

An engagement between two male choir singers who appeared on Survivor caused a stir in the church in 2015.

“These two men in particular are amazing human beings,” Lentz explained in the GQ profile, getting emotional as he discussed the hot-button issue. “And they are going through a really amazing journey called life. Yes, their sexuality is involved with it, but it’s not as cut-and-dry as you think it is. And if they make a decision to live as gay men, they are going to get married, our stance in this church is there’s going to be a limited involvement when it comes to leadership, because you don’t believe what I believe. This would create friction that wouldn’t be fair to the people that we’re serving.”

Despite this Lentz, as well as senior pastor Brian Houston, insists everyone is welcome at Hillsong, though they clarify that this does not extend to leadership positions in the church.

“Hillsong Church welcomes ALL people but does not affirm all lifestyles. Put clearly, we do not affirm a gay lifestyle and because of this we do not knowingly have actively gay people in positions of leadership, either paid or unpaid. I recognise this one statement alone is upsetting to people on both sides of this discussion, which points to the complexity of the issue for churches all over the world,” Houston wrote in a 2015 blog post. “This won’t make everyone happy and to some, this stance may even be seen as hypocritical. We are a gay welcoming church but we are not a church that affirms a gay lifestyle.”
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
I knew it was coming.
From a few months ago:

‘I think sex can cause a lot of pain,’ he said. ‘Sometimes people have sex because they don’t feel good enough. Because they lack self-worth. Women do that, and guys do that.

I wanted to rededicate myself to God in that way because I really felt it was better for the condition of my soul. And I believe that God blessed me with Hailey as a result. There are perks. You get rewarded for good behaviour.

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“If I could go back and not have to face some of the bad hurt that I went through, I probably would’ve saved myself for marriage,” the pop star said with Baldwin by his side.

He continued that, as “crazy” as it sounds, he believes sex can complicate relationships before marriage.

“Sex can be kind of confusing when you’re just being sexually active with anybody. We went there. It’s just true,” he said.

“I probably would have saved myself for marriage,” Bieber added.
Stop having sex out of wedlock.
 

MRAll134

Woodpecker
Stop having sex out of wedlock.
I like C.S. Lewis' take on this: "chastity is the most unpopular of the Christian virtues. There is no getting away from it; the Christian rule is, 'either marriage, with complete faithfulness to your partner, or else total abstinence.' Now this is so difficult and so contrary to our instincts, that obviously either Christianity is wrong or our sexual instinct...has gone wrong...of course, being a Christian, I think it is the instinct which has gone wrong (pg. 95, Mere Christianity)." This is definitely not the easy path and requires a lot of discipline.
 

Laner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
From a few months ago:



Stop having sex out of wedlock.
He is not wrong. It felt like it nearly took away my opportunity to experience being a good husband and father.

I struggled - and still do struggle - with monogamy. I sometimes feel what I imagine junkies might feel. Its probably a good thing that sex with attractive women is more difficult to get than heroin, but as we all know its the path to getting the sex that is so alluring.
 

Wutang

Hummingbird
Gold Member
As someone mentioned, Bieber had already been baptized before a few years ago. The story behind it:


n the interview, Pastor Lentz rehashed the night of Justin Bieber’s transformation. Justin had begun to realize that he was on the wrong path, and according to Lentz, he wanted to “start fresh.”

Lentz met with him privately to discuss baptism, but Justin wanted to know what baptism would mean in his current situation. After Lentz explained that Jesus was baptized and commanded His followers to be baptized as “an outward sign of what is inward,” Justin was sold.

But the thing is that Justin Bieber didn’t want to wait. And neither did Lentz. Once Justin had made his decision to recommit his life to Christ through baptismal dedication, he wanted to do it right then. The urgency of a (re)commitment to Christ is more powerful than the urgency of partying or fame.

Indeed, Justin Bieber and Carl Lentz tried to ditch “a million paparazzi people” that were following them to find a water oasis for baptism. After trying but failing to get into four different places for baptism, Lentz called up his friend—former NBA player Tyson Chandler—to see if they could use his pool for Justin’s baptism—at 3 AM.

The request didn’t faze Chandler or his wife, who had snacks ready for Lentz and Bieber when they arrived. This shining example of service to others is common in Lentz’s church.

Chandler’s pool wasn’t available, but he offered that they could use his bathtub—specially designed for a seven-footer.

This seemingly unholy place—a bathtub?!—was made holy through baptism. Bieber, an A-list celebrity, humbly submitted himself to His heavenly father and welcomed a deeply personal relationship with Christ. His sense of urgency signaled his great desire for a personal Savior.
 

MRAll134

Woodpecker
I suspect Bieber was molested badly as a child star (like all other child stars). This was a needed step for him.
I am not sure about Bieber. But, I think Leonardo Da Caprio was too. He was in the Hollywood system at an early age and around a lot of homosexual men. If you look at his dating style now, he cannot commit to a woman for more than a year and won't date anyone near his age/maturity.
 
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