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<blockquote data-quote="RWIsrael" data-source="post: 1324538" data-attributes="member: 15650">I think &quot;payback&quot; is not the right concept - this is just identifying and describing a phenomenon / trope / meme that we see in real life, it&#039;s not some kind of revenge for how women have treated men. Kind of like &quot;crazy homeless hobo&quot; is a trope.Calling it payback is what feminists would say.The phenomenon is definitely mostly observed in white women in the western world but it&#039;s a universal concept - the mayor&#039;s or politician&#039;s wife expecting special treatment from the front line worker or police officer and wants to speak to their superior - &quot;don&#039;t you know who I am? I&#039;m someone more important than you&quot;Karens has an innate sense of entitlement regardless of her actual position or connections - she is just a white woman in the first world so everyone owes her deference and must humor her caprices and her strong opinions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RWIsrael, post: 1324538, member: 15650"] I think "payback" is not the right concept - this is just identifying and describing a phenomenon / trope / meme that we see in real life, it's not some kind of revenge for how women have treated men. Kind of like "crazy homeless hobo" is a trope. Calling it payback is what feminists would say. The phenomenon is definitely mostly observed in white women in the western world but it's a universal concept - the mayor's or politician's wife expecting special treatment from the front line worker or police officer and wants to speak to their superior - "don't you know who I am? I'm someone more important than you" Karens has an innate sense of entitlement regardless of her actual position or connections - she is just a white woman in the first world so everyone owes her deference and must humor her caprices and her strong opinions. [/QUOTE]

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