Delta said:
From the Facebook article:
A big part of the reason you'll deal with nothing but lying, duplicitous scumbag women nowadays is because they've become so accustomed to bullshitting themselves and everyone else on their social media platforms.
I apologize if this derails the thread, but I believe it's important to point out: Quotes like the above need to be jettisoned from our community.
Do we want to be a community of rational men known for promoting cold, hard truth and self-improvement, or a community of bitter, hateful lunatics known for exaggerated emotional rants and pathological disdain for women?
While most guys here are far too level-headed and nuanced to write something like this, there is a sizable enough minority of toxic individuals among our ranks to make us look like the latter sometimes. I can't be alone in not wanting to be associated with shit like this.
I couldn't find the URL that the the A.V. Yader quote originated from, so that turned out to be a good excuse to
remove it from the article.
However, one thing I'd like to say about bitterness and disdain for women as a sex is that it comes about for a reason, which is that women, relative to men, do a poor job policing their own sex. Rather, they tend to enable other women's bad behavior, or at best remain silent as they observe other women wreaking havoc in innocent men's lives, as long as it doesn't directly affect them. It is, therefore, up to men to take on the traditional patriarchal role of restraining women from antisocial behavior, because no one else is going to do it.
Men will call out a man who abuses women, and restrain him from causing her further harm. Women are much less likely to call out a woman who abuses a man; they are much more likely to close ranks and defend their fellow woman if a conflict breaks out between a man and a woman. They will leave it up to men to defend their fellow man. (I'm not aware of there being a term for the female equivalent of a "white knight" who goes out of her way to attack any women she sees who harm men, because such women don't seem to exist, although
Christy0misty was accused of being anti-feminist in order to get guys to like her.)
It wasn't long after I discovered the Internet, that I became aware that mail order brides could be obtained by financially stable men with zero game, as long as they didn't have too much
anti-game. Then, after reading books like
The Game, I realized that sex with beautiful women, even those of American nationality, was attainable by any man willing to put in the effort. It made the situation seem much more egalitarian and meritocratic, much like a capitalist economy, in which money is attainable by any intelligent man willing to put in the necessary hard work. Similarly to how an awareness of economics gives a man less reason to hate the capitalists, having an awareness of game gave me less reason to hate women and the men who were able to attract them, because I knew that what those men had, I could have too.
Then I married an American woman, was betrayed and hurt badly by her, and at first blamed myself but then, with the help of friends, began to wake up to the reality of what had happened. She had effectively brainwashed the whole circle of family and friends, including me, into thinking I was an abuser, as a way of justifying her breaking her marriage vows. But that was just one woman, and therefore her behavior did not, by itself, cause me to feel disdain toward American women as a whole. What did that was when I saw how other women who heard both sides of the story, and saw the evidence, supported her rather than calling her out.
Men, being men, know how men are, and so if men hear a woman complain, "My husband cheated on me," they'll probably believe her and sympathize with her. Even when men are not yet aware that All Women Are Like That, they still know, from being men and hanging around men, that
All Men Are Like That. On the other hand, if a man complains, "My wife falsely accused me of rape and left with the kid," women will usually believe, or claim to believe, the woman's accusation, even though they should know better, since women have been hanging around other women all their lives and know about the kinds of manipulative practices that many women engage in.
The women who dissent from women's and society's abuse of men usually stay quiet about it, as is the tendency of most women when they hold a view that diverges from mainstream opinion. Women are more likely to go with the flow and look out for their own reputations rather than martyr themselves for the sake of a principle. This creates an appearance that all women are bad, because in these situations, the good women usually don't speak out and thereby make the presence of good women known.
Interestingly, according to
Heartiste's theory, feminism is actually a conspiracy by low-SMV women to wreck high-SMV women's prospects of getting an alpha male to commit to them. Some go
a step further to say that feminism is actually a conspiracy by alpha men to hoard all the high-SMV poon for themselves, rather than sharing with greater betas. Either way, we have to acknowledge that the current state of affairs has given women who, in a different culture and under a different legal system, would have behaved well, an incentive to behave badly. Since it's in
women's nature to conform to society's expectations, in a bad society, women will tend to be bad. Therefore, there's some truth to the statement that in our society, all women are bad.
