Spiritual Warfare Knowing the enemy: understanding Lucifer/Satan

Viktor Zeegelaar

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
I've been studying the background story of Lucifer, his personality, how he became Satan and how this influence with the demons has been the number one adversary in our world ever since. I think it's crucial in these times to understand this influence on the world, society, relationships and obviously ourselves. Without understanding our enemy we cannot be guarded against him, especially as culture and the entire institutional system is accelerating in the attack of any form of Godly goodness.

Questions to discuss:

- Who is Lucifer/Satan? What is his background? His personality? His characteristics?
- How does Satan work in our lives? Obvious ways and non obvious ways
- Experiences about personal struggles with this enemy and how we overcame them

I'd like to share a couple of links to video's that really helped me on this topic:

 

Jeff

Pigeon
The NFL is gay
This is what they say...

There will be hell to pay
If we don’t walk away...

So Come, and Welcome to Jesus Christ.
 

Lawrence87

Robin
Orthodox
One of the best weapons in the arsenal of the evil one is instant gratification. You can see how this spirit has taken over the world. People are blinded to the long term outcomes of their decisions, and even more so the eternal. Consider how Satan has attacked the family, this has been achieved largely with the notion of instant gratification. The idea that a young woman should have fun, see the world, experience carnal pleasure with more than one man before settling down, all of these things, even on a secular level are terrible decisions for the long term, when you reach your mid-thrities and you realise that working your way up the career ladder is empty, and the queue of eligible men is starting to dry up along with your beauty... Not to mention of course that the eternal consequences of unrepentant gratification seeking are disasterous.

You see it everywhere. Men are kept in a state of perpetual boyhood by it. Get drunk and try to fornicate at the weekend, and work a horrendously soul destroying job in order to fund it is basically the aim of many a young man's existence. Of course the devil has many weapons with which to destroy society but this is one of his most destructive...
 

Lawrence87

Robin
Orthodox
I noticed the other day some graffiti that said "You are perfect <3"

This seems to be a tactic of Satan these days. Whilst the message might seem wholesome, it is denying the fall, saying that our short comings and our neuroses etc are just the result of our inability to accept our innate perfection. There is no need to struggle, there is no need for Christ.

It's a perfect example of the ministers of Satan appearing as ministers of righteousness. On the surface, telling someone "you're perfect" seems like quite a pleasant thing to say, like it's releasing them from the burden of their own self criticism etc. But really it's a wicked doctrine that denies Christ.
 

SingularityOne

Robin
Orthodox
I noticed the other day some graffiti that said "You are perfect <3"

This seems to be a tactic of Satan these days. Whilst the message might seem wholesome, it is denying the fall, saying that our short comings and our neuroses etc are just the result of our inability to accept our innate perfection. There is no need to struggle, there is no need for Christ.

It's a perfect example of the ministers of Satan appearing as ministers of righteousness. On the surface, telling someone "you're perfect" seems like quite a pleasant thing to say, like it's releasing them from the burden of their own self criticism etc. But really it's a wicked doctrine that denies Christ.
I would say there’s a difference between healthy and unhealthy self-criticism though.

Healthy: Look towards Christ and get up from your fall with courage and speed. Without despair. Thankfulness that you were allowed to see your sin and be humbled and return to Christ.

Unhealthy: staying down and berating oneself until you fall into unutterable despair.

Keep your mind in hell, but despair not - St. Silouan... or... Glory to God for all things, although I am unworthy - St. Sophrony

Glory to God for all things - St. John Chrysostom

God allows all things for our benefit... we must struggle and repent at all times towards humility, in prayer.
 

Kiwi

Robin
One of the best weapons in the arsenal of the evil one is instant gratification. You can see how this spirit has taken over the world. People are blinded to the long term outcomes of their decisions, and even more so the eternal. Consider how Satan has attacked the family, this has been achieved largely with the notion of instant gratification. The idea that a young woman should have fun, see the world, experience carnal pleasure with more than one man before settling down, all of these things, even on a secular level are terrible decisions for the long term, when you reach your mid-thrities and you realise that working your way up the career ladder is empty, and the queue of eligible men is starting to dry up along with your beauty... Not to mention of course that the eternal consequences of unrepentant gratification seeking are disasterous.

You see it everywhere. Men are kept in a state of perpetual boyhood by it. Get drunk and try to fornicate at the weekend, and work a horrendously soul destroying job in order to fund it is basically the aim of many a young man's existence. Of course the devil has many weapons with which to destroy society but this is one of his most destructive...

Hence why the masses rush to take the vaccine "that's just been quickly developed and is safe and effective"
 

Paisios Harlan

Chicken
Orthodox
I've been studying the background story of Lucifer, his personality, how he became Satan and how this influence with the demons has been the number one adversary in our world ever since. I think it's crucial in these times to understand this influence on the world, society, relationships and obviously ourselves. Without understanding our enemy we cannot be guarded against him, especially as culture and the entire institutional system is accelerating in the attack of any form of Godly goodness.

Questions to discuss:
- How does Satan work in our lives? Obvious ways and non obvious ways

I recently finished this interview series with a pristmonk in Greece. It was recommended by Fr. Peter Heers. Check out this second part, where he explains how the vax and covidism are manifesting the work of the antichrist and the demons. You can tell he is expounding upon St. Paisios the Athonite's warnings about being marked with a vax.

You have to watch it with the English subtitles. Even with them I can tell the father has a gift of teaching.

Title in Greek:

Ἐμ-βολὴ πονηρὰ στὸ κατ’εἰκόνα​


 

An0dyne

Robin
Satan was created the highest of the angels, called the “Morning Star” in Isaiah (the brightest of the stars, a term used to refer to the heavenly host in Scripture). As the chief angel, Satan was the most radiant of the “sons of God,” probably in his own mind the crown jewel of creation—a perfect celestial being.

Then God makes man. A seemingly bizarre cross between the physical and spiritual worlds. Unlike the perfect spiritual beings that are the angels, meat bag humans perform crass bodily functions like defecation and carnal relations. The angels were told by God that these peculiar beings are the actual crown jewel of creation. Angels and all creatures would be subject to man. The angels were created by God to serve Him by serving man.

The Angels would act as celestial caretakers, members of the divine council until man was ready to take his place on the same (see Revelation, where the Holy Angels cede their thrones to the Elders, etc.). This is what the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” was all about. In the Book of Kings, we see Solomon ask for wisdom, i.e., the ability to discern between “good and evil” (1 Kings 3:9). (Spoiler: Solomon, David’s Son, is a type of David’s Greater Son, Christ, Who is the Second Adam). Man is meant to take dominance over creation after attaining wisdom.

So, when Eve begins demonstrating wisdom by telling Satan, who was sent down to her as the chief guide for mankind, that they shouldn’t even TOUCH the fruit of knowledge of good and evil (something God never explicitly said, but is a reasonable and WISE deduction), Satan sees his kingdom slipping away and decides he can’t play into what he perceives as a cosmic facade any longer in service to these meat suits. (For perspective, imagine if God told you to bow down to a worm as your king.) So he rejects God’s plan and leads Adam and Eve astray, taking a third of the angels with him in a rebellion against God’s created order.

What Satan didn’t bank on was the Incarnation. It was always God’s intention to facilitate the Incarnation. This is the ultimate expression of man’s dominion and enthronement. God is King, and through Christ all mankind participates in His kingship. Satan is no match for the God-Man.

Of course, Satan tried to destroy man at every turn before the Incarnation. Using his place in the divine council, he would accuse (the meaning of “Satan”) man day and night (see Job). Worse, the evil angels sought a work-around, creating an unholy alliance with man through perverse unions (for how can one increase territory and dominion? through marriage alliances) to the daughters of men. The descriptions of the nephilim of Genesis 6 and the “giants” of Canaan later described in the Pentateuch bear striking similarities to demonic possession as the Church recognizes it today: elongated limbs, super strength, etc. Imagine if one was offered to a demon from birth as its de-facto vessel. All of these traits would be on steroids. And, the demons had a work-around for the whole dominion thing.

This makes so much more sense of the Flood and the annihilation of the Canaanites. In the former case, literally only Noah was left untainted by these demonic alliances (there’s a lot more subtext in the early Genesis genealogies pointing to a war between the Cainites and the Sethites that led the former to create this unholy alliance, but we won’t delve into that now). In the case of the Flood and preserving Israel from the unholy nations which had demons as their patron deities, God had to preserve a line untainted for the Incarnation.

When Christ defeated death and ascended into Heaven, Revelation 12ff tells us that the Holy Angels decisively kicked Satan and the unholy angels out of Heaven and the divine council. No more could they accuse man before God as they did to Job. Satan and his ilk were cast to earth, foaming with rage because they know their time is short—Christ is King and their plots to rule the world were brought to naught.

So that’s where we are. The good news is that Christ already won and rules all things, making us co-heirs of His kingdom. The bad news is that Satan is on earth and knows he doesn’t have much time. He wants to take as many humans with him as he can. His final act is to create an abominable false church (beast of the earth/Antichrist), which will lead many astray in tandem with a false government (beast of the sea) under the auspices of the dragon (Satan himself), an unholy “trinity.”

Because Christ exercises His rule on earth through ministers in the Church and State, which derive their authority from the created order of the family, Satan will invert the natural order of things in Church and State and attack the family unit at all costs.
 
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Satan was created the highest of the angels, called the “Morning Star” in Isaiah (the brightest of the stars, a term used to refer to the heavenly host in Scripture). As the chief angel, Satan was the most radiant of the “sons of God,” probably in his own mind the crown jewel of creation—a perfect celestial being.

Then God makes man. A seemingly bizarre cross between the physical and spiritual worlds. Unlike the perfect spiritual beings that are the angels, meat bag humans perform crass bodily functions like defecate and carnal relations. The angels were told by God that these peculiar beings are the actual crown jewel of creation. Angels and all creatures would be subject to man. The angels were created by God to serve Him by serving man.

The Angels would act as celestial caretakers, members of the divine council until man was ready to take his place on the same (see Revelation, where the Holy Angels cede their thrones to the Elders, etc.). This is what the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” was all about. In the Book of Kings, we see Solomon ask for wisdom, i.e., the ability to discern between “good and evil” (1 Kings 3:9). (Spoiler: Solomon, David’s Son, is a type of David’s Greater Son, Christ, Who is the Second Adam). Man is meant to take dominance over creation after attaining wisdom.

So, when Eve begins demonstrating wisdom by telling Satan, who was sent down to her as the chief guide for mankind, that they shouldn’t even TOUCH the fruit of knowledge of good and evil (something God never explicitly said, but is a reasonable and WISE deduction), Satan sees his kingdom slipping away and decides he can’t play into what he perceives as a cosmic facade any longer in service to these meat suits. (For perspective, imagine if God told you to bow down to a worm as your king.) So he rejects God’s plan and leads Adam and Eve astray, taking a third of the angels with him in a rebellion against God’s created order.

What Satan didn’t bank on is the Incarnation. It was always God’s intention to facilitate the Incarnation. This is the ultimate expression of man’s dominion and enthronement. God is King, and through Christ all mankind participates in His kingship. Satan is no match for the God-Man.

Of course, Satan tried to destroy man at every turn before the Incarnation. Using his place in the divine council, he would accuse (the meaning of “Satan”) man day and night (see Job). Worse, the evil angels sought a work -around, creating an unholy alliance with man through perverse unions (for how can one increase territory and dominion? through marriage alliances) to the daughters of men. The descriptions of the nephilim of Genesis 6 and the “giants” of Canaan later described in the Pentateuch bear striking similarities to demonic possession as the Church recognizes it today: elongated limbs, super strength, etc. Imagine if one was offered to a demon from birth as its de-facto vessel. All of these traits would be on steroids. And, the demons had a work-around for the whole dominion thing.

This makes so much more sense of the Flood and the annihilation of the Canaanites. In the former case, literally only Noah was left untainted by these demonic alliances (there’s a lot more subtext in the early Genesis genealogies pointing to a war between the Cainites and the Sethites that led the former to create this unholy alliance, but we won’t delve into that now). In the case of the Flood and preserving Israel from the unholy nations which had demons as their patron deities, God had to preserve a line untainted for the Incarnation.

When Christ defeated death and ascended into Heaven, Revelation 12ff tells us that the Holy Angels decisively kicked Satan and the unholy angels out of Heaven and the divine council. No more could they accuse man before God as they did to Job. Satan and his ilk were cast to earth, foaming with rage because they know their time is short—Christ is King and their plots to rule the world were brought to naught.

So that’s where we are. The good news is that Christ already won and rules all things, making us co-heirs of His kingdom. The bad news is that Satan is on earth and knows he doesn’t have much time. He wants to take as many humans with him as he can. His final act is to create an abominable false church (beast of the earth/Antichrist), which will lead many astray in tandem with a false government (beast of the sea) under the auspices of the dragon (Satan himself), an unholy “trinity.”

Because Christ exercises His rule on earth through ministers in the Church and State, which derive their authority from the created order of the family, Satan will invert the natural order of things in Church and State and attack the family unit at all costs.
Very interesting explanation. What is the difference between Heaven and the Heavens, from your perspective? I have heard that the Heavens are the realms outside of earth, the spaces above where what we have been told is the cosmos, or outer space, while Hell is a realm underneath, either in the earth or on another plane that is not physical. Heaven as well is not on this physical plane (touch sight sound and smell reality). I found a few interesting links that explain that Revelation already happened between 63-70 AD which makes sense from the seven year perspective and that the "thousand-year reign" is not a literal thousand years that we count as 1,000 but an unannounced length of time where which God will allow the rule of Christ. This place called the Biblicism Institute has some interesting reads, but some of it seems contradictory with events taking place today, unless these same extinction agendas have come to pass in previous civilizations of antiquity (Atlantis, Sumeria, Babylon, etc).

This particular article about the lineage of Jesus differentiating from the modern phrase that "Jesus was a Jew" is very researched and I don't detect any lies, from a genealogical perspective: https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/27/jesus-was-not-a-jew/

This article here mentions the same topic: https://christogenea.org/podcasts/exactly-why-jesus-christ-not-jew

This article here is the most interesting yet conflicting, likely to draw criticism from many Christians, but what do you think?
https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/where-is-satan-now/
 

El Draque

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I noticed the other day some graffiti that said "You are perfect <3"

This seems to be a tactic of Satan these days. Whilst the message might seem wholesome, it is denying the fall, saying that our short comings and our neuroses etc are just the result of our inability to accept our innate perfection. There is no need to struggle, there is no need for Christ.

It's a perfect example of the ministers of Satan appearing as ministers of righteousness. On the surface, telling someone "you're perfect" seems like quite a pleasant thing to say, like it's releasing them from the burden of their own self criticism etc. But really it's a wicked doctrine that denies Christ.

That's an excellent observation.
 

An0dyne

Robin
Very interesting explanation. What is the difference between Heaven and the Heavens, from your perspective? I have heard that the Heavens are the realms outside of earth, the spaces above where what we have been told is the cosmos, or outer space, while Hell is a realm underneath, either in the earth or on another plane that is not physical. Heaven as well is not on this physical plane (touch sight sound and smell reality).

“The heavens” often refers to the cosmos in Scripture. There’s the first heaven of sorts, which is the atmosphere/sky. The second heaven is the cosmos. The “third” Heaven, as St. Paul calls it, is the Divine Throne Room. This is where God and the Lamb sit enthroned amid the Seraphim, where the divine council meets (where the souls of the faithful rest until the resurrection).

Hell, the Lord tells us, is the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. It must be physical in some sense, because the physically resurrected bodies of the reprobate will reside there.

I found a few interesting links that explain that Revelation already happened between 63-70 AD which makes sense from the seven year perspective and that the "thousand-year reign" is not a literal thousand years that we count as 1,000 but an unannounced length of time where which God will allow the rule of Christ. This place called the Biblicism Institute has some interesting reads, but some of it seems contradictory with events taking place today, unless these same extinction agendas have come to pass in previous civilizations of antiquity (Atlantis, Sumeria, Babylon, etc).

You have to take everything with a discerning eye and in light of the Scriptures. Not all of Revelation has occurred yet; this is obvious, as the end of the book describes the final judgment and the restoration of the cosmos with the resurrection of the dead. Last I checked people are still dying and Jerusalem the Golden and the Lamb are not dwelling in perfection on earth, so we’re not finished with Revelation yet!

That being said, the 1,000 year reign is not literal, that is correct. It refers to the entire New Testament period (10 is the number of completeness. 1,000 is 10x10x10, indicating the fullness of time). More on that below.


This article here is the most interesting yet conflicting, likely to draw criticism from many Christians, but what do you think?
https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/where-is-satan-now/

Satan is bound during the New Testament era in the sense that he is refrained from “deceiving the nations” as he did in ancient times. No more demon alliances. No more convincing all nations to destroy the faithful few. Instead, the Gospel (the powerful tool the Holy Angels used to bind Satan in the first place!) will GO to all nations, bringing them to Christ. This is what we’ve seen through history! At the very end of the age (perhaps now!), Satan will be freed with his unholy “trinity” to deceive the nations once again into destroying the Church.
 

DeusLuxMeaEst

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
I believe the demons have two main strengths.

1) Knowing your thoughts, your heart, and all your weaknesses for as long as you have lived.

2) The ability to use procrastination and diversion.

Combine that with the knowledge of man's fallen nature and being sentient from the beginning of time makes them a formidable enemy.

For example if they know you lacked female attention they will tempt you with lust.

Grew up poor? Greed.

And so on.

How they get this knowledge is anyone's guess, but they seem to be able to target sins specifically. For me I suffer with lust and it's presented to me constantly.

Regarding the 2nd point. Ever notice how when you have to pray or go to church, a million things come up? The phone rings, you think of a task to complete, you get a text, everything to pull you away.

"Repent later, you have the time." is one of their biggest lies.
 

SimpleMan

Sparrow
A way to approach the enemy, as it is written, is to Pray for them.

We can Pray for those in leadership positions who have been influenced by satan, just as many of us were at one point.

Pray for the leaders - in government, the police and within health management - and Pray for their order followers who do their bidding.

Pray for them to Remember God.
Pray for them to Fear God and His Judgement.
 
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Pantheon

Sparrow
Orthodox
The founder of anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), had some potent insights into the nature of evil.

Essentially, he divided evil into luciferic and ahrimanic (from the Zoroastrian evil spirit Ahriman).

Luciferic evil is egoistic, narcissistic, and prideful. Ahriman represents the cold, calculating, controlling evil of totalitarian bureaucracy and secular materialism.

The latter is very dominant now, and I've found Steiner's concepts very useful to discern the nature of modern evil.

Steiner predicted that Ahriman would incarnate in a human person sometimes during the early stages of our millenium. Some of his followers assert that this might already have happened.
 

Aleksandar

Chicken
The founder of anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), had some potent insights into the nature of evil.

Essentially, he divided evil into luciferic and ahrimanic (from the Zoroastrian evil spirit Ahriman).

Luciferic evil is egoistic, narcissistic, and prideful. Ahriman represents the cold, calculating, controlling evil of totalitarian bureaucracy and secular materialism.

The latter is very dominant now, and I've found Steiner's concepts very useful to discern the nature of modern evil.

Steiner predicted that Ahriman would incarnate in a human person sometimes during the early stages of our millenium. Some of his followers assert that this might already have happened.
Steiner was a great man, his work is very, very complex. He has so many authentic insights, that make sense, and his body of work is huge.
 
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