Learning Dropshipping journal

OrthodoxExpatCol

Kingfisher
There is no personal beef, other than him blatantly copying my work months ago. I called him out, and he hid, failing to reply. It's a little bit craven, but I digress.

Lots of people don't like dropshipping, which is fine. But most of his comments regarding it don't make sense, and are factually incorrect, nor do they help others achieve success with D/S. If you don't like D/S, stay out of a dropshipping thread, it's as simple as that.

Dropshipping is viable, and I'm glad that you're documenting your journey. I look forward to reading it, and helping out wherever I can!
 

This Is Trouble

Kingfisher
Gold Member
WeekendCasanova said:
This Is Trouble said:
In other news, I took my most successful product (I seem to have hit on two), raised price by 50% to see if it still sold, no dice.

Back to the drawing board as I’m not making enough profit on this particular one to keep going after a few weeks.

How are your up-selling apps doing?

And if you don't mind me asking, what price-range are your products in? For dropshipping, the ideal range is $20-$70, unless your branding is on point.

The really winner was at $19 and I put it up to $29 where it totally bombed.

The other one doing okay is at $49.

As far as up-selling, re-targeting, and email follow up, I’m kinda of ashamed to say I haven’t even set them up. I really have a lot of backend work to do. I’ve had some initial success but it’s really gonna require me sitting down and dedicating some time to get everything as it “should be”.

And of course, the real problem is that I have other 5-figure income streams to run and hate taking time away from them.
 

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Kingfisher
Catholic
Gold Member
jamaicabound said:
Spaniard88 said:
WeekendCasanova said:
I'm still earning around 5-figures a month through dropshipping.

Is this revenue, or profit?

I'm gonna guess revenue. Everyone loves to throw out "I made a million Dollars" but what they really mean is I did a million in sales. Nohting against that its still very imperssive but its far from the same thing as netting a million.

Agreed. If someone doesn't specify then it's probably revenue. It's definitely annoying when internet marketers don't specify, but you can't expect much honesty from them.
 

Aviel

Sparrow
POD is better than Ali dropshipping.

Jamaicabound for example if you sell fake replica jerseys before/during the world cup, you would have made bank. Most people wont be paying 130 dollars for an authentic jersey, buy it on DH gate for 15 and sell it for 40-50 = easy 6 figures in a couple of months. Ofc branding and marketing must be done well too. I would have done it myself but I was unemployed and couldn’t spend on fb ads, but my stats were really good! I think If I had a better website and better landing page I would have made a shit load of profit.

The business model is viable but it aint for me. I prefer to create my own designs, I’ve taught myself how to use Photoshop and I just feel it’s better to create a brand. Im trying to do that now!
 
Aviel said:
POD is better than Ali dropshipping.

Jamaicabound for example if you sell fake replica jerseys before/during the world cup, you would have made bank. Most people wont be paying 130 dollars for an authentic jersey, buy it on DH gate for 15 and sell it for 40-50 = easy 6 figures in a couple of months. Ofc branding and marketing must be done well too. I would have done it myself but I was unemployed and couldn’t spend on fb ads, but my stats were really good! I think If I had a better website and better landing page I would have made a shit load of profit.

The business model is viable but it aint for me. I prefer to create my own designs, I’ve taught myself how to use Photoshop and I just feel it’s better to create a brand. Im trying to do that now!

I don't know much about Soccer but I'll tell you that MLB, NBA, NFL, MLB are incredibly protective of their brands to the point they'll get you knocked off Amazon for even selling licesned stuff. They have teams of lawyers perusing the internet looking for people infringing. Most of the time you'll probably get a cease and decist or they'll just get your site shutdown but you could get sued.

I don't doubt you could have made a killing but you could have also gotten blackballed from payment processors for life as well and killed any potential future businesses you want to start because you now can't get processing.
 

Captain Gh

Ostrich
Atheist
Gold Member
jamaicabound said:
WeekendCasanova said:
jamaicabound said:
Not saying it can't be done but when somoene orders 2 products from your store a shirt and an Ali item potentially the shirt shows up in 6 days, their Ali Product is trailing 30 days behind it. Your probably going to be fielding a lot of questions about I only got one item, and your gonna have to be like oh man here check this China post tracking that doesn't show anything,you can be confident your mini sewing machine will be arriving in 30-45 days, just be patient

Can you cut your shit with hating on a viable business model?

I make most of my money via consulting now, but I'm still earning around 5-figures a month through dropshipping, and coach/consult various others earning 5-6 figures a month using this business model. Is Weekend an exemption probably... but he's trying to help us become the Next Exceptions!

Just because you suck at it, doesn't mean it's not viable.

I've had maybe 10 customers over 2-years complain about the shipping length, as I typically put a notice in the receipt, product page, and FAQ pages.

First off wasn't even talking to you was ansering a question someone else had posted. Their question is a legit concern and I was answering it. If I order 2 items form a store and I get something in the mail and only one product is in the box I'm going to be curious where my other item is. Regardless of whether you mention this in your FAQ section people don't read shit so your going to get calls and/or e-mails saying hey I got my package I only got my shirt I didn't get my xyz item. What is your explaination to them about that?

Someone asked a question and I was answering it. You started this thread and then dipped off a couple people have been asking you things and you havn't been back to the thread so I was trying to help answer their questions.

Personally I think dropshipping is kind of a shit business, that's just me, if it works for you do you brother. I think the vast majority of people are gonna fail at it but then again the vast majority of people are goign to fail at traditional ecommerce as well so maybe its all a wash anyway but if you think the whole Ali Express DH Gate dropshipping thing isn't comming to an end you have your head in the sand.


Man jamaicabound I'm not hating, but you need stop barging in Dropshipping thread in order to mention how you think it's not effective or will die soon. 2nd time this happens! Is the field saturated probably... but as long as you do it better... You can make bank... and that's all that count
 
Captain Gh said:
jamaicabound said:
WeekendCasanova said:
jamaicabound said:
Not saying it can't be done but when somoene orders 2 products from your store a shirt and an Ali item potentially the shirt shows up in 6 days, their Ali Product is trailing 30 days behind it. Your probably going to be fielding a lot of questions about I only got one item, and your gonna have to be like oh man here check this China post tracking that doesn't show anything,you can be confident your mini sewing machine will be arriving in 30-45 days, just be patient

Can you cut your shit with hating on a viable business model?

I make most of my money via consulting now, but I'm still earning around 5-figures a month through dropshipping, and coach/consult various others earning 5-6 figures a month using this business model. Is Weekend an exemption probably... but he's trying to help us become the Next Exceptions!

Just because you suck at it, doesn't mean it's not viable.

I've had maybe 10 customers over 2-years complain about the shipping length, as I typically put a notice in the receipt, product page, and FAQ pages.

First off wasn't even talking to you was ansering a question someone else had posted. Their question is a legit concern and I was answering it. If I order 2 items form a store and I get something in the mail and only one product is in the box I'm going to be curious where my other item is. Regardless of whether you mention this in your FAQ section people don't read shit so your going to get calls and/or e-mails saying hey I got my package I only got my shirt I didn't get my xyz item. What is your explaination to them about that?

Someone asked a question and I was answering it. You started this thread and then dipped off a couple people have been asking you things and you havn't been back to the thread so I was trying to help answer their questions.

Personally I think dropshipping is kind of a shit business, that's just me, if it works for you do you brother. I think the vast majority of people are gonna fail at it but then again the vast majority of people are goign to fail at traditional ecommerce as well so maybe its all a wash anyway but if you think the whole Ali Express DH Gate dropshipping thing isn't comming to an end you have your head in the sand.


Man jamaicabound I'm not hating, but you need stop barging in Dropshipping thread in order to mention how you think it's not effective or will die soon. 2nd time this happens! Is the field saturated probably... but as long as you do it better... You can make bank... and that's all that count

This will be my last post in this thread, you guys do you. I'm not saying dropshipping doesn't work, I'm saying certain forms of dropshipping don't work.

You can find companies in your own country which means your customers will get their items in 3-4 days maybe a week as opposed to waiting a month from a site like Ali Express. There are suppliers who offer unique products ie not the same stuff other people are selling. There are suppliers who will white label or blind ship for you meaning your inserts will be in packages, your company name and address will appear on invoices, it will look like the product is comming from you. That is a good way to dropship which will be effective.

If you choose to dropship stuff from Ali Express or DH Gate IMHO your selling the same garbage as every other 16 year old dropshipper, your items are going to take weeks or even months to arrive to your customer, your supplier doesn't know you from a retail customer there's no relationship, packages will show a customs form showing what you paid, suppliers may include product inserts, etc.

I've done it both ways and I'm just sharing what's been more effective for me. Here's one of my Shopify stores, this year we've done 450K in sales through the Shopify platform and that's not counting wholesale orders, Amazon, eBay,and phone orders. I realize I'm not the biggest seller out there but were doing decent numbers and this is WAY more than I've ever made with Ali Express dropshipping, Amazon dropshipping, Walmart dropshipping, etc.

One thing I attribute to this stores success is the number of recurring customers we have which right now is at like 38%, historically its been upwards of 55%. With recurring customers I don't have to pay to acquire them and I can e-mail market to them for free.

Customers return when they have a good experience ie get good customer service, receive their product promptly, etc. I personally think dropshipping from China isn't going to lead to recurring customers which is IMHO the driving force behind a successful business.

I'm done with this thread, best of luck to all of you on your endeavors
 

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fktax

Sparrow
JekyllAndHyde said:
Then I constantly hear whinging about running an eCommerce in your 30's with 3 kids in an expensive country like Australia:
:lolwtf:

Funny thing is, of the guys I know crushing it in ecommerce, it's usually the dads. I think the kids give them some superpower hustle.
 

This Is Trouble

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Winston Wolfe said:
@OP are you still doing this? If so do you have an update?

I got the opportunity of a lifetime to start an olive oil company this summer.

Needless to say, I put all the Chinese AliExpress stuff to the side to jump on the opportunity.

That said, it's been far more challenging than DS. Coming up with all the branding/packaging/labeling/being responsible for shipping/packing has been a huge challenge.

We've basically sold everything so far completely organically through my main site's mailing list and a Twitter brand we built, but are ramping up paid traffic now (breaking even a week in).

So, I guess that's my update.
 
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