Let's talk cigars

Enfant_Terrible

Kingfisher
I'm no cigar connoisseur but I like that they generally last longer, burn evenly, have interesting flavor than cigarettes, and no need to inhale to relax me and enjoy the cigar.

I'd like to start a habit of smoking one or two for any accomplishment or positive milestone in my life.

Any recommendations on brands or country of origin?

And since I'm keeping one till the milestone happens, will my cigar box suffice in storing it or should I just wait till I buy it from the cigar store? How long will a cigar last if stored without a humidifier.
 

tenderman100

Ostrich
Gold Member
Enfant_Terrible said:
I'm no cigar connoisseur but I like that they generally last longer, burn evenly, have interesting flavor than cigarettes, and no need to inhale to relax me and enjoy the cigar.

I'd like to start a habit of smoking one or two for any accomplishment or positive milestone in my life.

Any recommendations on brands or country of origin?

And since I'm keeping one till the milestone happens, will my cigar box suffice in storing it or should I just wait till I buy it from the cigar store? How long will a cigar last if stored without a humidifier.

I have smoked quite a few cigar brands in my life -- remember, I am an old fart.

I have had all of the Dominican legal brands in the USA, Upmann's, Partagas, among others.

But nothing, and I mean NOTHING, compares to a Cuban Montecristo #2.

Montecristo-No-2-10-Product.jpg


There are many sites on the intertubes that CLAIM they can ship you Cuban cigars, but I have never bought any -- I think there are a lot of frauds out there.

Your best bet is to find a tobacconist, buy a cigar a week for a few months so you are a regular...and then ask if they have any or can get you some. I did that for a while at local shop and I had #2s basically anytime I wanted them until, alas, his source dried up.
 

germanico

Hummingbird
Gold Member
To me, cigars are like whiskey. They come in four quality levels: sublime, good, bad, and dog-awful. Even the bad ones are pretty good. The awful ones are to be avoided least they ruin your tastes.

Any decent cigar shop attendant should be able to give you a few pointers. If you plan on doing it only for special ocassions, it worthwhile to spend a little extra on your pleasures, its all better in the end. It actually gives you more enjoyment out of it.

For landmark smoking only, I dont think youll need to invest in a humidor. Buy as needed.
 

WesternCancer

Crow
Gold Member
Go to a cigar shop, if you come to Vancouver go to City Cigar. The salespeople there gave me a rundown on the history of cigars, where they came from why people like cubans better etc.
I've only had a few, but I like the churchill shape its bigger and obviously looks more badass. My favourite one i've smoked is a romeo et julieta corona
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I also found the cubans on average to be smoother whereas the dominicans were super strong.
 

Enfant_Terrible

Kingfisher
tenderman100 said:
Enfant_Terrible said:
I'm no cigar connoisseur but I like that they generally last longer, burn evenly, have interesting flavor than cigarettes, and no need to inhale to relax me and enjoy the cigar.

I'd like to start a habit of smoking one or two for any accomplishment or positive milestone in my life.

Any recommendations on brands or country of origin?

And since I'm keeping one till the milestone happens, will my cigar box suffice in storing it or should I just wait till I buy it from the cigar store? How long will a cigar last if stored without a humidifier.

I have smoked quite a few cigar brands in my life -- remember, I am an old fart.

I have had all of the Dominican legal brands in the USA, Upmann's, Partagas, among others.

But nothing, and I mean NOTHING, compares to a Cuban Montecristo #2.

Montecristo-No-2-10-Product.jpg


There are many sites on the intertubes that CLAIM they can ship you Cuban cigars, but I have never bought any -- I think there are a lot of frauds out there.

Your best bet is to find a tobacconist, buy a cigar a week for a few months so you are a regular...and then ask if they have any or can get you some. I did that for a while at local shop and I had #2s basically anytime I wanted them until, alas, his source dried up.

Thanks Tenderman, Montecristo's were my first Cubans and I repurposed the wooden box to hold my outgoing stuff (wallet, keys, cash, etc). I was amazed that I didn't need to flick the ashes with these things.

Re: Internet resellers
I've encountered online resellers supposedly based in Switzerland I don't know if they're legit. Maybe someone can shed light on this.

Tobacconists...
There's two near me and both have a wide selection. Didn't ask if they had the Montecristos but I'll come back.
 

Enfant_Terrible

Kingfisher
germanico said:
To me, cigars are like whiskey. They come in four quality levels: sublime, good, bad, and dog-awful. Even the bad ones are pretty good. The awful ones are to be avoided least they ruin your tastes.

Any decent cigar shop attendant should be able to give you a few pointers. If you plan on doing it only for special ocassions, it worthwhile to spend a little extra on your pleasures, its all better in the end. It actually gives you more enjoyment out of it.

For landmark smoking only, I dont think youll need to invest in a humidor. Buy as needed.

Re: bad/god awful cigars
God bless the Philippines, but they make mini cigars on the cheap that don't burn well and have ok flavor. Still good for chillin' purposes and a nice substitute for cigarettes. My Dutch friends gave me a few over the New Years after their Philippine trip.

This will sound absurd, but the worst ones that I've smelled (not smoked) were smoked by some men in Las Vegas literally smelled like shit. I don't know what brand that is but I don't want it.

I have not spoken to the attendants in my local stores yet but will do.

Didn't even think of spending a little extra for an occasional cigar, thanks.
 

Cincinnatus

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I'm pretty fond of the Arturo Fuente Hemingway series. Fuente moved operations to the Dominican Republic after the 1960 Cuban Embargo. Smooth burn, great flavor, and none too expensive.

Highly recommended. Enjoy with a dram of Scotch or brandy.
 

Enfant_Terrible

Kingfisher
WesternCancer said:
Go to a cigar shop, if you come to Vancouver go to City Cigar. The salespeople there gave me a rundown on the history of cigars, where they came from why people like cubans better etc.
I've only had a few, but I like the churchill shape its bigger and obviously looks more badass. My favourite one i've smoked is a romeo et julieta corona
images



I also found the cubans on average to be smoother whereas the dominicans were super strong.

I actually want to try out the Churchills precisely because of the size and maybe it'll last longer. (And for those of you reading this...a cigar is just a cigar in this case, get your mind out of the gutter :) )
 

Enfant_Terrible

Kingfisher
MSW2007 said:
I'm pretty fond of the Arturo Fuente Hemingway series. Fuente moved operations to the Dominican Republic after the 1960 Cuban Embargo. Smooth burn, great flavor, and none too expensive.

Highly recommended. Enjoy with a dram of Scotch or brandy.

What scotch or brandy is good with the Hemingways?
 

ElJefe

Pelican
Still getting used to this stuff, but go to Nicaragua for an interesting cigar experience. Direct flights from Miami and Houston.

I spent a weekend in Esteli checking out cigar factories. Padróns, the most famous, made only for export, are hard to come by unless you buy them stolen. Usually in Granada. The story behind Padrón is inspiring.

But hand-rolled cigars of top-quality cost about 1UDS a piece, where in the States it could easily be as much as 15. The factories in Esteli churn out a shitload of cigars for numerous brands. But it's often all the same cigar!

Man, I miss Nica. Too bad the chicks are so damn ugly and Ortega is sucha whacko. That place is a gem.
 

basil

Robin
Poor Americans with your damn embargo. That is a crime.

Been enjoying the odd cigar to celebrate for a few years now. New Years, birthdays, big achievements, birth of my god son. Grab a bottle of scotch, a smoke and some good friend. Enjoy!

Cohiba all the way. I have had a few different varieties and they always blow me away. There Rubustos are a great start for a newbie, not a huge cigar, nice smooth flavour. Then try out there Siglo range, talk to the guy in the smoke shope about the differnt flavours and try what sounds good to your pallete. Some like spicy flavours, some like sweet, some like earthy - some cigars even deliver all three. I've had a few nice Romeo y Julieta's, Bolivar make a nice cigar as well.

Most importantly learn to cut/pierce the cap correctly (do not chew off the end or cut a big piece) and light correctly so you get an even burn and good draw. Took me some trial and error and research, was hard to sort the shit advice from the good online.

What ive found so far is to use a fine razor blade like kinfe and cut the cap just cut around the edge barelly a mill or two in from the end. Once you have the cap off or pierced its a good idea to blow through the cigar, not hard like a balloon, but enough so you can feel the air coming out the other end. This will help with the draw, some say it can also get out impurites or some shit - I dont really buy it.

Then light the sucker. Some die hards will tell you to avoid gas lighters like a zippo because the fluid taints the cigar. The best way is to use a cedar strip, light that then use the strip to light your cigar. Wood matches are a simpler solution. Butane lighters (pretty sure Zippo now make one called BLU) are the next best, far more convenient. However for my taste buds I cant notice the bad taste of a regular lighter. What the pros do that I agree with is to be really particular about how you light it. The method I use is pretty much described - http://www.thesmokingjacket.com/lifestyle/cigar-facts-trivia-information Your not scorching the end like a cigaret.

Some cigars, particularly if they have been rolled to tight and you haven't been puffing away too much will burn out. Thats ok, just re-light. Also you don't have to smoke the cigar all at once, flick the ash off, DO NOT stub it out but just let it sit and it should stop burning soon. Also in my experience most cigars good flavour diminishes rapidy with about 1/3 left - don't smoke it till your finger tips.

As for scotches to smoke with, for something affordable and light try Monkey Shoulder - its not a single malt, but its cheaper and tastes better than many single malts double even triple its price. I love Tamdhu for middle of the road. Either of those are also great for newbies and women. Glenmorangie's Nectar d'Or, Ardberg and Laphroig are all great for something with a bit more balls. I particularly like Laphroigs Quater Cask with a full bodied cigar. Suntory and Bailiie Nicol Jarvis are also options for lighter.
If your a bourbon man, Knob Creek or Basil Hayden are a fair substitute.

But take my recomendations with a pinch of salt in terms of both cigars and drink. Everyones taste is different, talk to the guy in the shop, hell talk you through the different flavors and notes each cigar produces and try one that sounds good to you. Just steer clear of the cheap shit - your better off saving your money and inhaling exhuast fumes in some cases.
 

Enfant_Terrible

Kingfisher
basil said:
Poor Americans with your damn embargo. That is a crime.

Been enjoying the odd cigar to celebrate for a few years now. New Years, birthdays, big achievements, birth of my god son. Grab a bottle of scotch, a smoke and some good friend. Enjoy!

Cohiba all the way. I have had a few different varieties and they always blow me away. There Rubustos are a great start for a newbie, not a huge cigar, nice smooth flavour. Then try out there Siglo range, talk to the guy in the smoke shope about the differnt flavours and try what sounds good to your pallete. Some like spicy flavours, some like sweet, some like earthy - some cigars even deliver all three. I've had a few nice Romeo y Julieta's, Bolivar make a nice cigar as well.

Most importantly learn to cut/pierce the cap correctly (do not chew off the end or cut a big piece) and light correctly so you get an even burn and good draw. Took me some trial and error and research, was hard to sort the shit advice from the good online.

What ive found so far is to use a fine razor blade like kinfe and cut the cap just cut around the edge barelly a mill or two in from the end. Once you have the cap off or pierced its a good idea to blow through the cigar, not hard like a balloon, but enough so you can feel the air coming out the other end. This will help with the draw, some say it can also get out impurites or some shit - I dont really buy it.

Then light the sucker. Some die hards will tell you to avoid gas lighters like a zippo because the fluid taints the cigar. The best way is to use a cedar strip, light that then use the strip to light your cigar. Wood matches are a simpler solution. Butane lighters (pretty sure Zippo now make one called BLU) are the next best, far more convenient. However for my taste buds I cant notice the bad taste of a regular lighter. What the pros do that I agree with is to be really particular about how you light it. The method I use is pretty much described - http://www.thesmokingjacket.com/lifestyle/cigar-facts-trivia-information Your not scorching the end like a cigaret.

Some cigars, particularly if they have been rolled to tight and you haven't been puffing away too much will burn out. Thats ok, just re-light. Also you don't have to smoke the cigar all at once, flick the ash off, DO NOT stub it out but just let it sit and it should stop burning soon. Also in my experience most cigars good flavour diminishes rapidy with about 1/3 left - don't smoke it till your finger tips.

As for scotches to smoke with, for something affordable and light try Monkey Shoulder - its not a single malt, but its cheaper and tastes better than many single malts double even triple its price. I love Tamdhu for middle of the road. Either of those are also great for newbies and women. Glenmorangie's Nectar d'Or, Ardberg and Laphroig are all great for something with a bit more balls. I particularly like Laphroigs Quater Cask with a full bodied cigar. Suntory and Bailiie Nicol Jarvis are also options for lighter.
If your a bourbon man, Knob Creek or Basil Hayden are a fair substitute.

But take my recomendations with a pinch of salt in terms of both cigars and drink. Everyones taste is different, talk to the guy in the shop, hell talk you through the different flavors and notes each cigar produces and try one that sounds good to you. Just steer clear of the cheap shit - your better off saving your money and inhaling exhuast fumes in some cases.

solid cigar post +1, thank you
 

WesternCancer

Crow
Gold Member
Enfant_Terrible said:
WesternCancer said:
Go to a cigar shop, if you come to Vancouver go to City Cigar. The salespeople there gave me a rundown on the history of cigars, where they came from why people like cubans better etc.
I've only had a few, but I like the churchill shape its bigger and obviously looks more badass. My favourite one i've smoked is a romeo et julieta corona
images



I also found the cubans on average to be smoother whereas the dominicans were super strong.

I actually want to try out the Churchills precisely because of the size and maybe it'll last longer. (And for those of you reading this...a cigar is just a cigar in this case, get your mind out of the gutter :) )
Yeah the main thing with the length/thickness is the flavour it produces. Sure there is a longer burn time, but I think the longer length is supposed to give the smoke a different flavour due to the length/time it passes through the unburning tobacco.
 
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