Long-term benefits of the Coronavirus Pandemic

Louis IX

Pelican
-Childless people are losing : They end up bored in front of their PC , realizing that their entire life is based on useless things such as travelling , drinking , and so on.

-Career women and mothers who did a kid for conformism and not for love : Now they can't escape , they have to be home and fill in their role of mothers.

- Everyone stays home and noone travels , especially the instagram thots. I ve travelled quite a lot and the last 2-3 years I became disgusted from travelling , just to see these non-christian girls touring the world like prostitutes showing their ass to everyone was disheartening. Now they can only show their face with a mask and noone cares.

-Every day of this quarantine exposes the unhealthy overcapitalistic system we live in where most people can't even make it if they dont have wage for 2-3 months. And for some countries , the abysmal public service in hospitals.

- I dare to believe that a lot of people start to reunite at least on the phone or via internet with their old parents and inquire about their health.

-No more sterile debate about election

-No more gay pride / drag queen stories / migrant invasions.

-People respect their goods a bit more. As Antonius of Efa said - people start to try to fix their stuff and are worried to break things

-Atheists and/or consumerist people don't feel good and might realize how uninteresting is their real life when they face themselves
 

stugatz

Pelican
For me, anyway, this was the final push for me to get rid of my Facebook. (I re-opened a new one the next day, but only use it to interact with family and like-minded friends from church...no coworkers, acquaintances, or casual friends.)

I don't feel like I'm walking in a minefield every time I post on Facebook anymore. That's a night and day difference.
 

KMK

Robin
Lockdowns will end as spring hits its stride. When that happens travel is going to come surging back with a popularity never before seen.

Anyone who thinks the current depression in the travel industry is going to become a long term change is asleep at the wheel.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
KMK said:
Lockdowns will end as spring hits its stride. When that happens travel is going to come surging back with a popularity never before seen.

Anyone who thinks the current depression in the travel industry is going to become a long term change is asleep at the wheel.

I agree that generally people are going to want to jump right back on the bandwagon the second the quarantine ends - even if it shouldn't end just yet. But there could be some shifts in attitudes, at least for a while. I for one never understood the appeal to get on a boat with a few thousand fat tourists in shorts and flip flops to line up for crummy food and do a mass exodus at every stop. Fuck that.

Throw in the reality of such environments being floating petri dishes and who knows, at least for a while some people (except for the Chinese) may not want to eagerly pile into a human container ship - we can dream.
 

Going strong

Crow
Gold Member
Polniy_Sostav said:
-Childless people are losing : They end up bored in front of their PC , realizing that their entire life is based on useless things such as travelling, drinking, and so on.

Every family with teens I've talked to, are currently getting crazy in quarantine.

One week more and teens and parents will be at each other throats, in all quarantined cities.

One month more locked in the same small apartment and parents will be a wreck even more than single men (single women will commit suicide by the third week, though, or earlier if Instagram is down).

Anyway... another man who hates on travelling; this crisis is highlighting what I have been noticing for many months : the people who cannot travel because of kids or office-jobs, just hate our freedom. Am I wrong on this?
 

Aizen

Kingfisher
Off the top of my head:

- Greater focus on health: People now realize they and their parents are not invincible, and that drinking Coca Cola daily is not a great idea. Exercise and general fitness could see a resurgence across the board.

- Stronger family relationships: Everyone's under one roof and mingling; there's no escape, so it's time to reflect. Personally, my relationship with the parents have improved. Honestly, we're all just happy that we're all healthy and together.

- Proliferation of Remote Work: Tech-savvy workers have realized how stupid it is to commute for hours just to sit in front of a computer somewhere else. Simultaneously, lonely workers miss the casual interactions that offices offer. I expect to see a work/home hybrid emerge in the future, as the value lost through commuting is brought to light.

- Widespread questioning of our "economy": This event exposes just how hard most Americans have been fleeced; I'm sure this will wake a lot of people up. Especially when cash starts running low. A lot of people have worked hard for decades, and within a week or two of shutdown, they're face financial ruin. After thousands of years of human development, how is this even possible??? And in a first world country, no less. Even medieval peasants accumulated some wealth. The whole system needs to be reset - we have more than enough resources for all Americans to live a decent life.
 
SlickyBoy said:
KMK said:
Lockdowns will end as spring hits its stride. When that happens travel is going to come surging back with a popularity never before seen.

Anyone who thinks the current depression in the travel industry is going to become a long term change is asleep at the wheel.

I agree that generally people are going to want to jump right back on the bandwagon the second the quarantine ends - even if it shouldn't end just yet. But there could be some shifts in attitudes, at least for a while. I for one never understood the appeal to get on a boat with a few thousand fat tourists in shorts and flip flops to line up for crummy food and do a mass exodus at every stop. Fuck that.

Throw in the reality of such environments being floating petri dishes and who knows, at least for a while some people (except for the Chinese) may not want to eagerly pile into a human container ship - we can dream.

 
JiggyLordJr said:
- Stronger family relationships: Everyone's under one roof and mingling; there's no escape, so it's time to reflect. Personally, my relationship with the parents have improved. Honestly, we're all just happy that we're all healthy and together.

It depends. For more healthier families yours is what will happen. On the other hand keeping a dysfunctional family together will result in domestic violence.

And other forms of emotional and physical abuse.
 

questor70

Ostrich
America suffers from profound cognitive dissonance along the lines of wanting to have its cake and eat it too.

It's easy to rail about globalism, etc... but the fact is that when things are made locally the labor costs involved would raise the cost of anything local significantly. It's either that or pay americans the same slave labor wages as the 3rd world. I mean, why do you think the US employs so much illegal labor? It's to keep the cost of things that need to be produced locally like fresh produce down to a level that the public is willing to accept.

You see, globalization has sort of covered up stuff like inflation. It may have been possible back in the 1950s for the US to support a domestic workforce with a Leave it to Beaver lifestyle, complete with a pension. That's not really possible anymore. If you tried to rearrange society back to the 1950s, our overall level of prosperity would drop considerably.

You see what I mean? The good times of the post WWII era are over and simply can't come back. That doesn't mean I think it's a good thing for fragile supply lines to be dependent on China, but let's understand why it is the way it is than to simply think things can snap back to the 1950s.

Business as usual is a complex set of tradeoffs that have sort of arranged itself via the invisible hand to best suit the majority. There is room for improvement to be sure but for the most part it is the least-bad arrangement for the majority. I don't think most people are willing to accept this but it's because they are simply ignorant of the larger forces at play and are filled with magical thinking.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
^Yes and no. There are definite pushes by the ruling elite to gut some nations and build others based on a number of different motives.

Ask a coal miner in the West why the elite are pushing their garbage green revolution which will enrich Chinese manufacturers and massively drive up electricity prices for everyone forced to buy crappy solar panels and wind turbines.

Going strong said:
...the people who cannot travel because of kids or office-jobs, just hate our freedom. Am I wrong on this?

Yes.

Easy_C said:
Sword and Board said:
AnonymousBosch said:
Sherman said:
...

Its interesting the "I don't think Israel/Zionism is doing anything wrong" crowd push the narrative and wax lyrically about the so called human rights abuses of team globohomo's latest enemy.

YOUR LYING IS DISGUSTING

You have repeatedly and dishonestly called me an apoligist for Zionism when I'm anything but and everyone but you knows it.

Stop lying.

giphy.gif
 

Louis IX

Pelican
Going strong said:
Polniy_Sostav said:
-Childless people are losing : They end up bored in front of their PC , realizing that their entire life is based on useless things such as travelling, drinking, and so on.

Every family with teens I've talked to, are currently getting crazy in quarantine.

One week more and teens and parents will be at each other throats, in all quarantined cities.

One month more locked in the same small apartment and parents will be a wreck even more than single men (single women will commit suicide by the third week, though, or earlier if Instagram is down).

Anyway... another man who hates on travelling; this crisis is highlighting what I have been noticing for many months : the people who cannot travel because of kids or office-jobs, just hate our freedom. Am I wrong on this?

Point by point

It is tougher with my 3 kids in quarantine. There are a bit more fights yes.There are also good moments. It is not my fault if these people do not have authority over their kids and cannot handle them. It is the parents fault 100%. Natural selection. I am even happy that other parents see that they cannot handle their kids , maybe they should have thought about the entire society before to give up on being parents and let their kids on the wrong track.

Small apartments are an issue yes. On this , I feel sorry.

I do not hate travelling. I hate to see travelling being taken in hostage by instagram thots and idiot guys who have no plans in life. I still enjoy travelling , and more locally since I cant afford 5 tickets , and I have very few days off. So I wish i could travel a bit more ...to more obscure destinations - but in no way I am jealous. I am actually feel pity for single men in their 30s travelling to X and Y and trying to persuade us that their life is great and full of freedom while the only thing they do is living the opposite of what should be done to perpetuate our civilization.
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
^Yes and no. There are definite pushes by the ruling elite to gut some nations and build others based on a number of different motives.

Ask a coal miner in the West why the elite are pushing their garbage green revolution which will enrich Chinese manufacturers and massively drive up electricity prices for everyone forced to buy crappy solar panels and wind turbines.

Going strong said:
...the people who cannot travel because of kids or office-jobs, just hate our freedom. Am I wrong on this?

Yes.

Easy_C said:
Sword and Board said:
AnonymousBosch said:
Sherman said:
...

Its interesting the "I don't think Israel/Zionism is doing anything wrong" crowd push the narrative and wax lyrically about the so called human rights abuses of team globohomo's latest enemy.

YOUR LYING IS DISGUSTING

You have repeatedly and dishonestly called me an apoligist for Zionism when I'm anything but and everyone but you knows it.

Stop lying.

giphy.gif


A lot of the problems are also the result of Red Tape that also makes employing native workers much more expensive and troublesome. This plus other measures help to push labor overseas.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Enoch said:
I hope that once people realize that 1/2 of mom's monthly net pay at her corporate job goes to daycare plus commute costs, etc, that more moms will stay home.

1/2 of net pay is nothing...plenty of families pay on a net basis to pay for daycare in order to keep the wife's career going.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
JiggyLordJr said:
- Proliferation of Remote Work: Tech-savvy workers have realized how stupid it is to commute for hours just to sit in front of a computer somewhere else. Simultaneously, lonely workers miss the casual interactions that offices offer. I expect to see a work/home hybrid emerge in the future, as the value lost through commuting is brought to light.

I've been working at home since last Monday and am fortunate enough that I'm in no danger of losing my job as a result of this (at least in the near term). And in my current job I can be 95% as productive at home as I would be at work. I don't think I'd want to work from home 100% of the time but I'd love to be able to go into the office 1-2 days a week and work from home the rest of the time.

More time with family and can also spend half the day checking boxes for my main job and the other half building side businesses to eventually escape globohomo.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
Enoch said:
I hope that once people realize that 1/2 of mom's monthly net pay at her corporate job goes to daycare plus commute costs, etc, that more moms will stay home.

1/2 of net pay is nothing...plenty of families pay on a net basis to pay for daycare in order to keep the wife's career going.

no 2nd car costs, no working lunch costs, no after work happy hour costs, no 2nd car insuance costs, no work wardrobe costs etc.

Also, the fear of sending kids back to a gross daycare or public school to get infected may keep the moms at home.

Say your prayers gentlemen, that Mike Pence or Ted Cruz seizes on all of these new homeschool children as a way to introduce a tax break for home schooling and by virtue defund a bunch of the federal education system.

Its a battle they have been trying to have for a long time.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Dr. Howard said:
Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
Enoch said:
I hope that once people realize that 1/2 of mom's monthly net pay at her corporate job goes to daycare plus commute costs, etc, that more moms will stay home.

1/2 of net pay is nothing...plenty of families pay on a net basis to pay for daycare in order to keep the wife's career going.

no 2nd car costs, no working lunch costs, no after work happy hour costs, no 2nd car insuance costs, no work wardrobe costs etc.

Also, the fear of sending kids back to a gross daycare or public school to get infected may keep the moms at home.

Say your prayers gentlemen, that Mike Pence or Ted Cruz seizes on all of these new homeschool children as a way to introduce a tax break for home schooling and by virtue defund a bunch of the federal education system.

Its a battle they have been trying to have for a long time.

Probably good to have the second car either way so mom can take the kids places during the day (not right now obviously) and as a backup so dad can get to work if his car is in the shop, but right on otherwise. And of course while it is good for a stay at home mom to have her own wheels she can stick with the 10-year-old Subaru Outback, she doesn't need a new BMW every other year to present the right image to her coworkers as she climbs the corporate ladder.
 
I'll have to repeat how endlessly thankful I am for not having to hear about whiteness or racism or climate change or trans-kids or consent laws or any of the other myriad of extremely mentally oppressing things that the radical left has fed us for years. I can't stand that shit anymore.

I'll be willing to live under damn near any kind of authoritarian regime, even a socialist one, if only I could escape this soul destroying assault by the radical left.

I don't think I've felt this mentally relaxed in 10 years, seriously.

Not sure what to make of it yet. I think there's a lesson there somewhere. Maybe it's time to accept a less than ideal structure for society, with less than ideal leaders, as long as it squashes the radical left.

I can see how Orban, Erdogan, Putin could win. You could get me on board probably.

I just want peace.
 
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