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<blockquote data-quote="questor70" data-source="post: 1314724" data-attributes="member: 12560">America suffers from profound cognitive dissonance along the lines of wanting to have its cake and eat it too.It&#039;s easy to rail about globalism, etc... but the fact is that when things are made locally the labor costs involved would raise the cost of anything local significantly.&nbsp; It&#039;s either that or pay americans the same slave labor wages as the 3rd world.&nbsp; I mean, why do you think the US employs so much illegal labor?&nbsp; It&#039;s to keep the cost of things that need to be produced locally like fresh produce down to a level that the public is willing to accept.You see, globalization has sort of covered up stuff like inflation.&nbsp; It may have been possible back in the 1950s for the US to support a domestic workforce with a Leave it to Beaver lifestyle, complete with a pension.&nbsp; That&#039;s not really possible anymore.&nbsp; If you tried to rearrange society back to the 1950s, our overall level of prosperity would drop considerably.You see what I mean?&nbsp; The good times of the post WWII era are over and simply can&#039;t come back.&nbsp; That doesn&#039;t mean I think it&#039;s a good thing for fragile supply lines to be dependent on China, but let&#039;s understand why it is the way it is than to simply think things can snap back to the 1950s.Business as usual is a complex set of tradeoffs that have sort of arranged itself via the invisible hand to best suit the majority.&nbsp; There is room for improvement to be sure but for the most part it is the least-bad arrangement for the majority.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think most people are willing to accept this but it&#039;s because they are simply ignorant of the larger forces at play and are filled with magical thinking.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="questor70, post: 1314724, member: 12560"] America suffers from profound cognitive dissonance along the lines of wanting to have its cake and eat it too. It's easy to rail about globalism, etc... but the fact is that when things are made locally the labor costs involved would raise the cost of anything local significantly. It's either that or pay americans the same slave labor wages as the 3rd world. I mean, why do you think the US employs so much illegal labor? It's to keep the cost of things that need to be produced locally like fresh produce down to a level that the public is willing to accept. You see, globalization has sort of covered up stuff like inflation. It may have been possible back in the 1950s for the US to support a domestic workforce with a Leave it to Beaver lifestyle, complete with a pension. That's not really possible anymore. If you tried to rearrange society back to the 1950s, our overall level of prosperity would drop considerably. You see what I mean? The good times of the post WWII era are over and simply can't come back. That doesn't mean I think it's a good thing for fragile supply lines to be dependent on China, but let's understand why it is the way it is than to simply think things can snap back to the 1950s. Business as usual is a complex set of tradeoffs that have sort of arranged itself via the invisible hand to best suit the majority. There is room for improvement to be sure but for the most part it is the least-bad arrangement for the majority. I don't think most people are willing to accept this but it's because they are simply ignorant of the larger forces at play and are filled with magical thinking. [/QUOTE]

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