Lounge of Russian-Ukrainian War

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Anyone else feel at odds rooting for Russia in all of this? I’m not even necessarily rooting for Russia so much, or ukraine obviously for that matter, as I’m rooting for the narrative of the establishment to fall apart.
I don't really feel odd, because I've never felt the rah-rah feeling for America. Maybe I felt a bit of it in Boy Scouts, when we used to salute the flag. And growing up, I did feel it for my state, and always felt pride for my school. But I knew the evil and bad America was doing around the world, and the hypocrisy and unfair policies and just never had respect for it. I suspect if I were a boomer, I would have both a fake US patriotism and a weird hatred of Russia and might feel differently.

I've always respected Putin as the only true statesman left in the world, so it's easy to get behind him, particularly after seeing his incredible patience for years, if not decades before finally acting.

When did the USA last do something we can celebrate or be proud of? I wasn't born during the moon landing but I imagine people felt pride then. But what since then???
It’s odd because none of this is actually good for the USA, it doesn’t help us if the ruble gets stronger or the dollar falls apart and it sure as heck doesn’t help us if the war escalates.
The strength of the dollar is directly tied to all sorts of suffering and evil all around the world. The people of Iran and Cuba have been under economic sanctions basically my whole life. For what? The people of Yemen are suffering a genocide right now with the support and approval of America. African countries are getting gay stuff shoved down their throats at the behest of America. People are being traded as slaves in Libya. Iraq has been utterly demolished.

If you inverted the world, and imagine it was run by Russia or China or North Korea, even if you believed all the American propaganda about them (I do not), none of them want to see gayness or tranny stuff spread around the world. It's just weird and gross. And it's all spread by my country because of the financial monopoly they have on the world.

I want the world to be free from that. I want my family to be free from it at home. I want to have the desire for children, which I currently do not want, because of the sickness they would be exposed to. I want to be safe. Crime is on the rise, and neighbors and friends are reporting scary things, in the city I grew up where we never locked our doors unless we were going out of town.

I've watched Snowden and Assange and William Benney and Bradley Manning and Cindy Sheehan and Pat Tillman's family and the Epstein revelations uncover all sorts of evil in America but no one bothers to change it. America is an evil country and we don't even want to change.

Yes, I won't be able to buy goods from China for a dollar or fly around the world and live well for a week off a day's wages back home, but that was a weird faustian bargain anyway, and its days are over.

I don't want to get too off topic here, but I saw some images recently of the genocide in Yemen that the US supports, while condemning the "mostly peaceful liberation" in Ukraine. It has stuck with me and really disturbed me, mainly because the frenzy of pro-Ukrainian public sentiment could be redirected towards ending the brutal war in Yemen if only the media gave the story a fraction of the attention it gives Russia.

Current estimates are that up to 400,000 children could die of hunger this year if the situation does not change.
That enrages me and I absolutely want the US dollar to fall apart so that it can no longer fund the murder and starvation of innocent people all across the world, as it has done in dozens of countries to innocent people for my whole life.

I want the push for gayness, for child trafficking, for trannies, for billionaires, for diversity, for equality, for feminism, for Judaism, for reparations, for acceptance of crime, for the anti-white, anti-family, anti-Christian agenda to end. Am I willing to suffer financially for that? HELL YES!
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Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Spetznaz training center in Chechnya that is currently used to train volunteers to be dispatched to Ukraine


Watching that video, I can't help but notice the diversity of the Russian volunteers.
There are bearded Muslims, Asiatic men from the east, and traditional Muscovites.
All united together under the banner of Russia.
It's throwing the west's propaganda directly in their face.
This is what true diversity looks like. The way America used to be a country of Irish, German, English and French immigrants, but now we are obsessed with having a required minimum number of sexual perverts or non Europeans or women in every single entity.
I wonder if this was intentional, or if libtards can even understand this type of true diversity.
 

MarkNordic

Sparrow
Watching that video, I can't help but notice the diversity of the Russian volunteers.
There are bearded Muslims, Asiatic men from the east, and traditional Muscovites.
All united together under the banner of Russia.
It's throwing the west's propaganda directly in their face.
This is what true diversity looks like. The way America used to be a country of Irish, German, English and French immigrants, but now we are obsessed with having a required minimum number of sexual perverts or non Europeans or women in every single entity.
I wonder if this was intentional, or if libtards can even understand this type of true diversity.
Absolutely! Putin loves his people and is no discriminator. RF’s army is much more diverse than U.S army. Putin has much more respect for muslims than any U.S president ever. He’s built mosques, improved peoples’ living conditions and allowed millions of visas for several Central Asian Muslim nations.

Moscow, especially the center and the metro stations are full of Central Asian people, working for a better future. Do you think Putin would allow it in his countrys’ capital if they thought they or their religion (Islam) posed any threat to his people? Never.
 

Stoyan

Kingfisher
Orthodox
He’s built mosques, improved peoples’ living conditions and allowed millions of visas for several Central Asian Muslim nations.

Moscow, especially the center and the metro stations are full of Central Asian people, working for a better future. Do you think Putin would allow it in his countrys’ capital if they thought they or their religion (Islam) posed any threat to his people? Never.
Not you specifically, but people in general on this forum tend to complain about "Islamization" of Europe, immigration of predominantly Muslim people from the Middle East into Europe, and perspective replacement of the native population there. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what kinds of people will be living in these countries after several generations.

Now how is that different from Russia though. I have no enmity towards Muslims, but I just think that in any country, the native people should have priorities. Moscow is as full of Central Asian people, just as Paris, Berlin, and Rome, are all full of Middle Eastern people, working for a better future. Yes, of course Islam does not pose any threat to the peoples of Europe because it is a peaceful religion. Not at all, these immigrants are not radicals by any means. If you are from the EU, the Middle Easterners are "your Muslims", and the Central Asians are "our Muslims". It's the same or very similar picture.

I have already covered the plight of the Russian villages, and widespread de-ruralization, and subsequent contraction of the Russkies population. This is very disasterous because historically the Russkies have lived in the villages and worked on their own land as farmers/peasants, producing both for themselves and for the whole country. The fact that the Federation imports vegetables from Turkey, Israel, and Iran, despite having one of the most favorable climates in the world for agriculture, is very telling of how deep the de-ruralization has gone, and how unnatural it all is. I've watched videos on YouTube. Large parts of the countryside are abandoned, nobody lives in those villages. It's like out of Fallout or something.

If oblasts populated by ethnic Russkies are heading towards a demographic collapse of sorts, and millions of Central Asian immigrants are coming into the country, then you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out who will live in Russia in the future. Especially according to independent Russian bloggers, foreigners, such as the mentioned above Central Asians, are preffered for jobs in the city, leaving Russkies without employment, who eventually succumb to alcoholism. It's easy to get a job as a Central Asian, or indeed anyone except for the native people, which include not only Russkies but also Uralians, Bashkirs, Native Siberians, basically native people who have integrated themselves into the Russian civilization in one way or another, they are all in the same boat now. Even with the many children families that millions of Central Asian immigrants that are contributing to the census, the population of the Federation is still plummeting, and that's just according to official statistics. And can I ask why Russkies who live in Central Asian countries have to overcome immense impermeable beurocratic hurdles just to get a visa into the Federation, while his Turkic neighbor can get it in a snap?

If this colonization in slow motion would not be stopped, then in several generations, the Russkies will be a minority, living in only certain isolated rural regions of the country such as Pechora, Urals, West Siberia like the Old Believers and other communities who go out into the wilderness away from the government's prying eyes. And even then, having to abide with strict gun control regulations, and restrictive quotas for the collection of berries, mushrooms, and firewood?

In that case, Russia will still exist, but as a predominantly Muslim, rather than Orthodox country, maybe with a different name. Sure, a pidgin version of the Russian language will be spoken, with lots of Central Asian and Caucasian loan words. Sure, because of Muslim peoples, the population will rebound and grow again. And sure, because of Muslim peoples again, and specifically their innate untamed ferociousness combined with religious fervor, Russia will be absolutely sabre rattling against the globohomo and the ((true beleivers)), to a much greater extent than the old Russian Empire. But Russia would not be a country of the Russkies any more. Ukraine, previously the homeland of this ancient people, has already been lost to them. Don't the Russkies deserve to have their own country? Where to, Belarus, or South America, or Protectorate of Xībólìyà?

Once you get over the initial high of a possible patriotic liberation war, you start seeing the ruins of Ancient Egypt. The Orthodox Church teaches us sobriety in order to be able to clearly analyze the situation.


 
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Grow Bag

Pelican
Catholic
British POW recounts his experience with Azov battalion
Graham Philips (another freelance reporter I followed in 2014) is interviewing him here. My thoughts are that this conflict is going to be a huge blow for ethno-nationalists. The ghost of Stepan Bandera must've inspired Azov, who've played their parts perfectly as evil nazis. It wouldn't surprise me if the script gets flipped at some point, with the Russians being vindicated after showing evidence of Azov and Right Sector atrocities. There's a lot that globohomo media can spin about the Russians, Muslims as bearded conquering heroes over ebil nahtzees not being the least of the stories.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
John Mearsheimer's name has come up a few times in numerous threads. I finally watched one of his lectures over the weekend.

I found his presentation really interesting and in light of whats happened since (his book and this presentation are from 2018) very very insightful as much of what he surmised has come to pass.



Really worth watching if one wants a an in depth macro understanding of the "what and why" of the geopolitical reasons for the war

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Book title says a lot
 
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thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Russian sources report that USA are pushing South Korea to send weapons to ukraine



"The issue of the transfer of BMP-3 and T-80U by South Korea to Ukraine is being pushed by the United States.
Seoul refuses to intervene in the conflict in this way, at least for now"

US and England are truly the Satan of the world. Whispering in other people's and countries' ears lies day and night, provoking others, inciting violence, pitting various groups and countries against each, directly murdering hundreds of thousands of people, and indirectly millions.

As Dugin said "the West is anti-Christ".
 
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