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Stoyan

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I agree with thetruewhitenorth, although Russian words may seem strange to foreigners, there is nothing strange about them. Russian words are made up of multiple root words which are combined with prefixes and suffixes to give them meanings. That is why they are so long. I would say that Russian words are very self-explanatory and logical, simply because of this exact property, that even if you don't know what the long word means, you can infer it's meaning by breaking it down into it's constituent sub-words and recombining them together to get the full meaning.
 

La Águila Negra

Ostrich
Other Christian
2 - a high ranking Turkish politician is (reportedly) saying that France was desperate to organise ("with Greece and Turkey") a 'humanitarian evacuation' out of Mariupol, because there were/are 50 French officers/advisers trapped in/around Azovstal, whom the French failed to exfiltrate in due time.

Turkey should be qualified as an unfriendly nation and the Turks, in this case, are just using the 'existence of Western military advisors' in Mariupol as a smokescreen to erase their own little dealings in and around Ukraine.

A quick summary of Turkish duplicity, deceit, lies and acts of hostility in the last couple of months alone.

* There is ample evidence for the existence of Turkish mercenaries and possibly Turkish assets on the ground in Mariupol. LDPR forces have identified several deceased Turks belonging to a Turkish PMC called Sadat, are finding Turkish military regalia and Turkish flags. The Turks trying to negotiate an exit from Azovstal indicates that there is even more going on and the play using France as a boogeyman is just good cop-bad cop.
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Oh, and Azov wants to be repatriated to a third country. Make no mistake, that 'third country' is Turkey.

* Yesterday the Turks closed their airspace for Russian military aircraft (mostly cargo) coming from and going to Syria. Will have to be re-routed via Iran and Iraq.

* The Turkish intelligence service MIT, which is and has always been close to MI6 played a vital role in the January 2022 Kazakhstan uprising/coup that was specifically targeting Russian ties to the country

* The Turks are re-supplying Ukraine through middleman Slovakia with TB2 Bayraktars. As proven in previous and current conflict, Russian ADs do not have a good grip on this weapon system despite what shills will tell you. Due to operational security levels they are no longer 'leaking' footage of the drone strikes, but it is all but confirmed that in the sinking of the Moskva missile cruiser two TB2 Bayraktars were used as decoy - they approached the ship from very low altitude evading the radar systems, disorienting the crew when they finally did pop op after which the Neptune missiles were successfully launched and the ship was sunk.

*Not particularly malicious, but more of a giant indicator. On April 6 Turkey moved its Embassy back go Kiev, being the first country together with Poland, the Baltic States and the Czech Republic to do so.

*Erdogan's continuous remarks on the status of Crimea and the Crimea Tartars.

*Continuous shenanigans in Nagorno Karabakh, Syria and Libya.

Putin's getting played like a fiddle trying to exploit non-existing rifts within NATO at the cost his own country. Turkey is with NATO and vice versa.
 
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911

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
Are you familiar with that babushka and the incident involving her harassment by Ukies? This meme takes on a different meaning when you know that hundreds of people like her were massacred for the crime of "collaboration" with the enemy, across Ukraine.

I'm not really fond with the Soviet flag either, or things like the Lenin Mausoleum on Red Square, but I understand that those Soviet elements are vestigial artifacts of their modern cultural history, particularly in their association with WW2. China has a very similar relationship with its communist past and Mao's legacy.
 

Stoyan

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I'm not really fond with the Soviet flag either, or things like the Lenin Mausoleum on Red Square, but I understand that those Soviet elements are vestigial artifacts of their modern cultural history, particularly in their association with WW2. China has a very similar relationship with its communist past and Mao's legacy.
Please don't conflate Lenin Mausoleum with WW2 monuments. Lenin was a mass executioner of the Russian people. He and his men destroyed the Russian Empire. He didn't even fight in WW2. On the other hand, the monuments to the soldiers who fought in WW2 are completely different. They were Russian warriors, ancestors. I see the reason why WW2 monuments should be there. But why Lenin? What good did he do? Yet they still keep him there.

Mao Zedong was a Chinese patriot, who actually fought in WW2. He turned to Communism just to get aid from the Soviet Union. He wrapped Stalin around his finger. But he did not mass execute the Chinese people.

The tragedy of the Russian people can only be compared to what happened to the Native Americans.
 
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911

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
^Mao bought into communism as a hard ideology, and the Cultural Revolution he has imposed on his people is about as hardcore as communism gets. He's responsible for millions of Chinese deaths, and incidentally one of those deaths was Xi's own sister, who was literally harassed to death, pushed to suicide, for being from an upper class "bourgeois" background.

Mao was also a product of the Judeo-Anglo deep state which has dominated China and sucked the life out of that country since the Opium Wars. His closest advisers, confidants and financiers, were people like Sidney Rittenberg, Israel Epstein and Jakob Rosenberg:


China's lucky break was the emergence of Deng Xiaoping, who was a true patriot and who managed to steer towards China's national interests the western oligarchs' plans to get rich at the expense of their middle classes. China today is almost completely free of foreign influence, more so than Russia.

Stalin is portrayed as a WW2 hero in Soviet/Russian circles, but he was about as reckless as Hitler was in terms of culling his own population in the total war effort, sending millions to the meat grinder. He's kind of similar to Khomeini in Iran, who got rid of Iran's surplus of young men through his war with Iraq, wasting away huge numbers of his country's soldiers in "human wave" attacks. Much like Khomeini, Stalin purged the cream of his officer class for political reasons.

Modern Russia's reverence for WW2 monuments and the red flag that they flew in that war is perfectly understandable, but it's kind of a complex issue. Then again so is the Allies' behavior in that war (Dresden, Nagasaki etc), and especially in the period after the war, with the application of the genocidal Morgenthau Plan and the extermination of millions of disarmed German POWs in a network of 50 concentration camps in 1945-49.

The post-WW2 genocide of the German people

 

Easy_C

Peacock
Please don't conflate Lenin Mausoleum with WW2 monuments. Lenin was a mass executioner of the Russian people. He and his men destroyed the Russian Empire. He didn't even fight in WW2. On the other hand, the monuments to the soldiers who fought in WW2 are completely different. They were Russian warriors, ancestors. I see the reason why WW2 monuments should be there. But why Lenin? What good did he do? Yet they still keep him there.

Mao Zedong was a Chinese patriot, who actually fought in WW2. He turned to Communism just to get aid from the Soviet Union. He wrapped Stalin around his finger. But he did not mass execute the Chinese people.

The tragedy of the Russian people can only be compared to what happened to the Native Americans.

Lenin was a monster. That’s why you keep some of those statues intact and put up a plaque explaining that it’s being kept in order to remind of us of those crimes.
 
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