Lounge of Russian-Ukrainian War
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The USA and the West are completely insane.
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All day, everyday.
You filthy anti-Semite! This is an obvious time-traveling bilocation, I know this because it was real in my mind.
As I've posted in the other thread: CNN Ukraine appears to be a fake account, possibly created to produce this meme.
Speaking of anti-semite..
I had a fair old back and forth with a Normie Jewish Supremacist Ive known for years on social media just now.
I said that Zelensky was a puppet with blood on his hands.
"Ha ha OOps!! Zelensky was a duly elected democratic leader! And precisely WHAT blood does he have on his hands?"
So several essays later about the Azov Battalion's incorporation into his army, genocide, Neo Nazis, massacres in Odessa, disabled and mentally handicapped men raped and murdered in the Donbass and how Zelensky is the poodle of whatisface the Khomsommy whatever oligarch that fled to Israel and then used his TV channel to promote Zelensky to President I get a reply.
"Disinformation! Its not possible for Zelensky to do any of that! He is Jewish and his relative were the VICTIMS of Nazis!"
That tenuous grip on reality.. Its like a gift that keeps on giving..
EDIT: Turning down volume on my phone as now Facebook alerts are now going Ding! Ding! Ding!
Oy vey..
Everything I've heard Putin and Lavrov say about foreign policy with NATO and the West since the Arab Spring has turned out to be exactly what they meant, intended, and wanted, so I'm going to take them at their word.
They want normal relations with the West and not to be treated as if none of their national interests are relevant. They finally realized after more than 15 years of trying, it's not going to happen, so they will take unilateral action as required.
They don't want to be encircled by advanced NATO first strike enabling, missile-defense systems in nearby countries, like Poland, Czech, and Romania. If they believe they have air superiority, eventually they will disable the systems in these countries that have been installed, likewise in the Baltic states. I could see this happening within the next year.
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Whatever happens next, it seems like the international order got what it wanted, which was to mire Russia in a bloody and costly war. Now they are just trying to prolong the costs by backing Ukraine and sending their people to die. Probably foreign fighters from all over will now flood Ukraine and try to create a Syria type insurgency. Meanwhile, they are sanctioning Russia and while some of these sanctions are only symbolic, I'm sure the ones that are being reserved for last will hit the worst (SWIFT payment disconnect and so on).
The consequences of this are hard to foresee, especially since there may be a complete black out between Russian and U.S. foreign relations, and the total segmentation of the world in half. I don't think we've seen the likes of this since the Cold War. How does it play out? It will be hard to tell but I think we can expect that having the Russia/China bogeyman will be very useful for the global elite, who can basically carry out whatever sinister agenda they have (cyber attack, biological terrorism, limited nuclear deployment, etc.) with impunity by blaming the entire thing on Putin. Economically what will happen is a whole other topic.
In effect, what we're witnessing has a large psychological component to it. The way Russia and Putin are being treated is strikingly similar to the way Covid was initially treated in 2020. The idea of Russia expansionism itself uses similar terminology to when the virus was "spreading" across Europe, and "containment" was necessary. Of course, remember that borders remained wide open initially and the virus was unconstrained long enough to pretend the situation was a dire. Here too, our diplomacy failed (intentionally) for months before it reached this point.
There are many parallels, and many directions this can go, all of which seem to point to further psychological operations and psychological terrorism, restrictions on freedoms of speech and movement, etc.
The consequences of this are hard to foresee, especially since there may be a complete black out between Russian and U.S. foreign relations, and the total segmentation of the world in half. I don't think we've seen the likes of this since the Cold War. How does it play out? It will be hard to tell but I think we can expect that having the Russia/China bogeyman will be very useful for the global elite, who can basically carry out whatever sinister agenda they have (cyber attack, biological terrorism, limited nuclear deployment, etc.) with impunity by blaming the entire thing on Putin. Economically what will happen is a whole other topic.
In effect, what we're witnessing has a large psychological component to it. The way Russia and Putin are being treated is strikingly similar to the way Covid was initially treated in 2020. The idea of Russia expansionism itself uses similar terminology to when the virus was "spreading" across Europe, and "containment" was necessary. Of course, remember that borders remained wide open initially and the virus was unconstrained long enough to pretend the situation was a dire. Here too, our diplomacy failed (intentionally) for months before it reached this point.
There are many parallels, and many directions this can go, all of which seem to point to further psychological operations and psychological terrorism, restrictions on freedoms of speech and movement, etc.
They haven't covered hypersonic missiles, this is the equalizer for Russia in terms of carrier groups and air force capabilities. The primary Kinzhal missile targets will be tanker planes which they can pick off from 1,000km+
Its a weird thing - people are talking about Operation Barbarossa except in reverse.
The difference I see is that ( a la Sukhorov) the Soviets were ready to attack and the Germans burst past them and isolated their forward units.
But the Red Army was 30 million strong whilst Germany was 2 million at its most inflated with old men and kids.
The issue for Russia as I see it is holding and governing the space they have / will have already conquered.
I remember in 2003 there was a kung fu teacher who was old enough to have trained with Bruce Lee. very experienced in his art.
He was watching two students doing chi sau when one burst through the others defence and tried to unload punches.
he said "Stop! Where are you now? ....... Look at your legs..... you've got no balance at all.. You break down a door in a darkened house and charge in but all of a sudden you have no idea what's surrounding you.." he shrugged and walked back to his seat, saying over his shoulder (it was March 2003) "Just like the Americans in Iraq.."
Of course Russia knows it neighbours' physical and human geography fairly well but its still a big job to control it all and then there's pint sized little CIA gnome Marc Rubio rubbing his hands at all that disruption and "insurgency" they the CIA will get to do, or get their cats-paws to do for them..
For future note, a video like this can go in the main thread. It shows relevant battle action and conditions on the ground.
I can see now why the threat of cyber attacks are so important in war games. Can you imagine these people without access to good WI-FI? They will be ruined. The Art of War.