Lounge of Russian-Ukrainian War

NowhereFast

 
Banned
Other Christian
Right from the devils mouth! Apparently Ukrainians deserve freedom but Canadians don't. So freedom is only when it's aligned with Deep State interest. Shows you how fake and ghey western political classes are.


If the chief witch of the cabal says this then I'm more willing to believe God may be behind Russians.
I wish they'd stop calling her Serbian. ((She)) is neither Serbian nor does she live in Serbia. I also wish they'd stop calling her an artist.
 

DanielH

Ostrich
Moderator
Orthodox
Surprised I haven't seen this pointed out in these terms yet. The Orthodox Church views itself as Israel. Israel gets held to higher standards than the rest of the world, biblically. When Israel errs, it is punished harshly. Wars, famines, foreign invasion, intermixing with foreigners, exile. When the Byzantine Emperor abandoned Orthodoxy, Constantinople was subsequently conquered by the Ottomans. When Russia hit a spiritual low, God permitted Bolshevism to try them by fire, leading to the creation of more martyrs than at any other point in history. In Orthodox sites I see Ukraine referred to as "Holy Ukraine" or "Holy Kievan Rus," or some form of that. Well, Holy Ukraine permitted itself to be run by a Jew and to start having sodomy spread throughout her institutions. She also permitted parallel "Churches" to arise and to tear the faithful this way and that, with church confiscations and physical violence between congregations.

Following the Orthodox canons*, you cannot marry a Jew, and you cannot even use a Jewish physician or even eat their bread. What in the world makes Ukraine think they can have a Jewish president and not face repercussions for this, not to mention the internal conflict that has politically divided the Orthodox Church - although divide might not be the right word, as how can the Church, the Body of Christ, be divided?

Of course, places like America and the West in general are guilty of worse, but America for example has never been an Orthodox nation and I assume is judged differently.

*
CANON XI. [of the Quinisext Council]

LET no one in the priestly order nor any layman eat the unleavened bread of the Jews, nor have any familiar intercourse with them, nor summon them in illness, nor receive medicines from them, nor bathe with them; but if anyone shall take in hand to do so, if he is a cleric, let him be deposed, but if a layman let him be cut off.

NOTES.

ASCIENT EPITOME OF CANON XI.

Jewish unleavened bread is to be refused. Whoever even calls in Jews as physicians or bathes with them is to be deposed.
Edit: Abbot Tryphon has written about this war:

A World on the Brink


This War Could Easily Have Been Avoided

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As we witness negotiations failing and a fratricidal conflict manifesting in the current military actions in Ukraine, it presents us faithful Orthodox Christians with confusion and frustration. It’s tempting to despair and to judge one side or the other and allow this to infect our relationships with others holding the opposite view. Rather than allow these days to activate our passions, we must humble ourselves and realize there’s nothing much we can do other than to pray and hope in God’s Providence and Mercy.

Things are not as they seem and very seldom as they are presented to us in the media. All the actors in this situation are going to follow their scripts and play their parts in the drama of politics and domination.

Let us sincerely pray that there will be no interference in the current conflict from other countries, including our own. Such meddling can cause an escalation such as we have seen in the events (real and orchestrated) preceding the previous world wars.

The people of Ukraine, and all the nations looking on need to see that they are only pawns in a bigger attempt to control world events and the goals of the globalist agenda. There are plenty of similar things going on in our own country and in Canada as well. All the drama in the news has distracted us for the moment from the battles right here on our continent for national sovereignty and freedom.

This war and all the suffering that is taking place among the Ukrainian citizens could easily have been avoided if our Administration and NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, and if they had conducted themselves with honesty and not broken so many promises.

It is helpful to understand that American and European officials led the Russians to believe that no expansion would be undertaken by NATO, But the alliance has nevertheless doubled in size. This makes us look like long term aggressors in the area—or at best, preparing to be in a very good position for aggression. After all, the reason NATO was created was to control and contain an ever-expanding Soviet empire in the aftermath of World War II.

Instead of just focussing on Russia’s current aggression against its neighbor, we might look at how we have provoked it with our own plotting and aggressive moves. It is important for us Americans to know that Russia is surrounded by NATO forces. How would we feel if Canada and Mexico were allies of China, and had invited the Chinese military to assemble on our borders?

In these dangerous times, we Christians must pray that the Mother of God places her Protective Veil over us, and that God, seeing our repentant hearts, will bring peace to a world that could well be on the brink of another world war. We must also pray for Orthodox Russia, and for President Putin, who in spite of whatever faults he may have, is certainly resisting the moral decay to which our country, from top to bottom, has given itself over in a slavish servitude to “wokism.”

We must pray for our Orthodox brothers and sisters in Ukraine, that the bond between Orthodox believers will grow stronger during this tumultuous time. Especially pray that the schism in that country which affects all of Orthodoxy may be healed.

With love in Christ,
Abbot Tryphon
 
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Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
This is very necessary to see. I've read the feb 24 speech and it's a complete logical explanation for what's happening, with extensive historical context. An excerpt:

Properly speaking, the attempts to use us in their own interests never ceased until quite recently: they sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature. This is not going to happen. No one has ever succeeded in doing this, nor will they succeed now.

So it goes way further than only the military aspect.
 

Ember

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
Former Russian PM, Dmitry Medvedev, has posted to Facebook that they have not ruled out nationalizing foreign owned assets in Russia, in response to the international sanctions.

The former Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, hasn’t ruled out nationalizing the Russian-based assets of foreigners registered in “hostile jurisdictions.”

The harsh step may be taken in response to the seizure of funds of Russian citizens abroad, the ex-leader, who is currently deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, posted on Facebook.

“They also threaten to seize the money of Russian citizens and Russian companies abroad <…> But this will have to be answered quite symmetrically,” Medvedev, the president of Russia from 2008-2012, said.

The comments come as Washington and allies have introduced a wide range of sanctions against Russia over its special military operation in the Donbass that was started at the request of the Donetsk (DPR) and Lugansk (LPR) People’s Republics, the independence of which was recognized by the Kremlin earlier this week.

The official added that the sanctions could lead to the “arrest of funds of foreigners and foreign companies in Russia,” saying that “nationalization of property of people who are registered in hostile jurisdictions” is also possible.

 
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Ember

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
The Ukraine Ministry of Defence has used video game footage in a tweet, claiming that it was a Ukrainian fighter shooting down a Russian jet.



The verified Twitter page of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry published video game footage on February 25 claiming to show a Ukrainian fighter jet shooting down a Russian plane. On Saturday, Reuters fact-checked the widely shared fake video as ‘miscaptioned’.

The ministry’s tweet was still up at the time of publication. The 15-second video is accompanied by the caption, “What is this Ukrainian ace doing?” The Defense Ministry’s account describes it as a MiG-29 fighter jet destroying a Russian Su-35 jet with a missile.

The original DCS World flight simulator game footage as uploaded to Youtube:



Social media users were quick to point to the YouTube video ‘Ghost of Kiev. Dogfight between Ukrainian MiG29 and Russian Su27 simulated in DCS World’. The clip, which has over a million views, refers to an unconfirmed but quickly spreading story about the ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ Ukrainian ace, who allegedly managed to single-handedly down six enemy aircraft.

However, that clip was first uploaded to YouTube with the title ‘Ghost of Kiev kill’. The uploader claimed the footage was made with a digital combat simulator in the description box.

DCS stands for Digital Combat Simulator World, a digital battlefield game developed by Eagle Dynamics.

A spokesperson for the company Matthias Techmanski confirmed in an email to Reuters that the footage was from DCS, and that Eagle Dynamics was “not responsible for its distribution,” and does not endorse “such content.”
 

durangotang

Ostrich
I do not support imperialism of any kind, on principle. That includes Russian and American imperialism. I also do not want any war and hope instead for peace, everywhere.

With that said, I would most certainly prefer a multi-polar world to the new world order, a global mono-culture of domination, debasement, genocide, and slavery without hope of escape. It appears that, for now, China and Russia are the main obstacles to the new world order, and that the globalists want to contain and eventually destroy Russia. In that case, if Putin determines that WWIII is absolutely inevitable, and his attempts at a limited war fail, he can engage in asymmetric military maneuvers as he suggested. The path to victory for Russia in a (non-nuclear) broader war is actually to launch a devastating strike on Israel with conventional weapons. Russia can win a conventional war in Europe if it had to, but it cannot win a conventional war in Europe against the American military, which would almost certainly go nuclear. The goal in the following scenario is to prevent that from happening.

If Putin moved enough S-400's to his naval base in Syria, he could impose a no-fly zone over Syria. When Israel inevitably breaches the no-fly zone, he would refrain from shooting down their jet, instead announcing that he will conduct a peacekeeping limited strike mission against Israel at the request of his Syrian ally (just like he did with the Donbass Republics in Ukraine). It would not be hard to list a litany of Israeli incursions as proof that these actions were necessary, and if Russia wanted to challenge Israel diplomatically first, they could rely on Israeli chutzpah to carry on violating Syrian airspace. Russia could use the same exact playbook once again, and comfortably rely on the same results. The goal here is in fact to create a broader conventional war in the Middle East, by leaving Israel a sitting duck through a much larger missile strike than anticipated. If Putin positioned enough Iskander missiles, he could launch hundreds of missiles and completely debilitate Israeli air defense systems, military infrastructure, air force, and navy, virtually overnight. After 24 hours of massive air strikes, Russia would then announce an end to all hostilities. Israel, like Ukraine is not a NATO member, so there is no European alliance to invoke. There would be no invasion of Russian troops. All Russian military activity would end in 24 hours.

Instead, after such a strike, Hezbollah and Iran would be free to engage Israel, according to plan. If Putin sold S-400's to Iran, they would stand a very good chance at winning such a war and liberating the Middle East. America would almost certainly come to Israel's rescue, drawing them out of Europe, where Russia is then free to target NATO missile installations at a time of their own choosing. If Putin ever wanted to keep American troops out of Europe and in the Middle East, once deployed, he then could target airports across NATO countries, though he likely wouldn't have to. The entire Shia world would descend on an Israel without air defenses and with a crippled military, this includes Iran, most of Iraq, and Lebanon. There would be a Palestinian uprising.

Saudi Arabia and Turkey would surely get involved, being Sunni countries and American allies. The race would be on to see who would control Jerusalem, Jews, Sunnis or Shias? This leaves Europe free of American troops, who by now would be in the Middle East, and would draw Muslim terrorists away from Russia's southern border, which has been an American tactic used against Russia in Afghanistan and later Chechnya. Why do you think America left $80 billion dollars of military equipment in Afghanistan? Muslim extremists would all go to participate in the liberation of Palestine and the retaking of the holy land. Additionally eliminating the threat of Israel would earn Russia the eternal gratitude of the Muslim world, something very important for the Russian empire which has so many Muslims, yet is officially an Orthodox country. A second consequence would be massive Muslim support all over Europe, and a giant American backlash against another war killing Muslims in the Middle East. There would be deafening calls to remove America from Europe.

American aircraft carriers and supply lines would be at the total mercy of Russian hypersonic missiles. As long as America does not engage with Russia directly, however, Russia doesn't have to sink them. They can instead let them be drawn into an almost guaranteed defeat, where at any time Russia can decide the fate of the war. Russia's primary goal is to keep the conflict off Russia's borders, America out of Europe, and the conflict from going nuclear. After America's nightmare war against Iran ends, Russia can negotiate a new security architecture in Europe from a much stronger position against a country with it's reputation ruined, riddled with debt, and exhausted from war. It doesn't matter how long that takes.

If Turkey deployed it's military assets south in an attempt to restore a (Sunni) Ottoman empire, and in any way threatened Russia's naval base in Syria, or did it's coalition partners (the USA or Saudi Arabia), Putin could then retake Constantinople from the north and own the Bosporus straight, giving him total control of Russia's access to the Mediterranean Sea. This allows Russia the opportunity to become a true naval power on the world stage for the first time in their history. Russia could conduct air strikes and missile launches 24/7 on Istanbul and Ankara from it's own air bases on southern Russian soil. Syria would side with Russia against Turkey, a country who owes it's existence to Russia. If Russia remained committed to taking Istanbul, then the fate of their Syrian port (if lost) would in effect become irrelevant, and her supply chains would actually be much shorter. I have the suspicion that Greece, another Orthodox country, would also ally with Russia in a war against Turkey, despite being a NATO member, engaging Turkey in warfare in the Mediterranean and Cyprus as they are want to do. Military action by Russia from the north, Greece from the west, Syria and Iran from the south, and Armenia (another Russian ally) from the east against Turkey would tilt the scales in favor of a Shia victory, and American defeat in the region.

A Russia victory over Turkey would leave them with Constantinople, including the Bosporous, and all Turkish lands to the northwest of the Anatolian peninsula (Thrace). Serbia could assist Russia to take Thrace if needed. Greece would have full control of Cyprus. China would certainly take advantage of this incredible opportunity to lay siege to Taiwan. India and Pakistan too would be tempted to engage one another, and so on. This is how empires end, with war, and this would be the end of the American empire.

What would America prioritize, their control of Europe, the containment of China, or the defense of Israel? We all know the answer. Besides, both Russia and China have nuclear and hypersonic weapon systems, and ironically, America would too if they had prioritized weapon systems development instead of twenty years of war for their greatest ally (at the cost of over $10 trillion USD).

How does restoring Russia, retaking Constantinople, potentially liberating Palestine, and bankrupting the American empire sound for a legacy? Better than another devastating war in Europe, for which he would be hated, that's for sure.

In this scenario, I know many of you are thinking about Israel's "Samson option," where they have threatened to destroy the world's cities with nuclear weapons if Israels existence is called into question. When I thought further about it, that's incredibly preposterous. If Israel loses the war, and Israel's nuclear subs launch, are they really going to target the remaining Jewish population in the world, which lives almost exclusively in Western cities? That would be self genocidal. I think not. Would Jews in New York, London, and Paris really engage in a nuclear war with Russia (with Israel gone), thereby risking the total genocide of the remaining Jewish population of the world? Russia could announce that any nuclear strike on their territory would result in the annihilation of New York, London, Paris, Los Angeles, Tel Aviv, Miami, etc. The extermination of your people is a pretty good deterrent.

Check mate.

If we were to have such a Middle Eastern war, there is still a high risk of a limited nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel, which is why Iran is going to need a lot S-400s. I know that everyone is afraid of a greater war in Europe right now, but the likelihood for war in the Middle East is far greater due to America's unparalleled commitment to Israel, which is conveniently far from both Russia and China. Europe exhausted itself in WWI and WWII, and still hasn't fully recovered from it, the memories are too strong. There is absolutely no will for a greater war in Europe. Even Russia knows that it would have a hard time occupying all of Ukraine, much less Europe. The greater war, if it were to happen, would be in the Middle East and quite possibly Asia. If Russia and her allies needed to, they have the capabilities to start (and win) this war in a conventional, non-nuclear manner. All Putin has to do is light the fuse, presuming he is in fact a Russian nationalist and not a part of ZOG. If he is part of ZOG, then I suppose it will just be more White people killing each other.

That's the thesis anyway. Now, let's hope it doesn't come to this, that cooler heads prevail, and we can in fact live in a world at peace. If you are in Europe, hopefully you'll find this post reassuring.
 
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Zagor

Kingfisher
I just can’t stand the normie npc’s regurgitating the programming of the day. Their minds are like leaves in the wind, going whichever way the globalist media machine instructs them to go. The corona hoax really laid this fact bare, and now it continues with the Russian invasion narrative. What can one do in a society where less than 10% of people are independent critical thinkers? I just want to check out and live like an Amish. Actually that is the goal.
 
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