Hypno
Crow
Its more interesting to me that you did not capitalize Christian.
Anyway, Martin Luther said interest was OK 500 years ago.
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Its more interesting to me that you did not capitalize Christian.
Anyway, Martin Luther said interest was OK 500 years ago.
Oberrheiner
Pelican
Sure, anglos can rationalize it any way they want, like any other religious point - we see the results after a while.
Its more interesting to me that you did not capitalize Christian.
Anyway, Martin Luther said interest was OK 500 years ago.
I never capitalize anything, if you noticed.
I also never "like" posts.
There would be a lot to say about luther, but I can't be bothered honestly.
Plus some here could do it way better than me anyway.
Sitting Bull
Sparrow
You got it wrong on all counts. The article I mentioned was defending an official pronouncement by Pope Pius VIII (not exactly an anglophile) against typically anglo accusations.
Oberrheiner
Pelican
I don't care who said what - usury is the enslavement of others, if that's not evil to you then we are not on the same side.
Sitting Bull
Sparrow
In a simple one-to-one usury situation, usury is indeed the enslavement of the borrower to the lender.
But the situation becomes more complex when usury is generalized and "state-sponsored".
Let us consider what might be the simplest example - in today's world, someone has a savings account in his or her bank with the fixed, legal, lowest interest rate, which the bank grants to basically any customer. Who is he or she enslaving ?
Oberrheiner
Pelican
Don't know, we don't have that here.
Also I looked into pie 8, usury was forced upon him by the napoleon code, he had no choice and just had to come up with some theological blabla to rationalize it after the fact.
That's a general problem with organized religions, they are structures of power and as such if they want to keep this power they need to submit to greater powers.
It would be better imho for emj to write about how the current pope is pro-gays and pro-migrants and what the theological justification for this is ..
Usury is not a fight anymore in the usa, everybody worships money anyway.
Or maybe religion is simply not a fight anymore in the usa since everybody worships money - you tell me.
Also I looked into pie 8, usury was forced upon him by the napoleon code, he had no choice and just had to come up with some theological blabla to rationalize it after the fact.
That's a general problem with organized religions, they are structures of power and as such if they want to keep this power they need to submit to greater powers.
It would be better imho for emj to write about how the current pope is pro-gays and pro-migrants and what the theological justification for this is ..
Usury is not a fight anymore in the usa, everybody worships money anyway.
Or maybe religion is simply not a fight anymore in the usa since everybody worships money - you tell me.
Sitting Bull
Sparrow
Really ? But I thought your profile said you were from France. In France, about every bank has one or several types of "Compte Livret" as I described above
Absolutely, but that's another subject.
I can't speak on the behalf of other people, but it is still a fight for EMJ and a few other Catholic authors, in any case. Only the future will tell if they have been heard ...
Oberrheiner
Pelican
Well, that's another debate entirely, but sure why not.
Basically all the livrets I know are based off of the livret a, which (afaik) must be mostly backed by sovereign bonds, and gets you 0,5% interests a year.
Also it should be said that if you do the real math france (like most other western countries) is actually in a recession, so even those 0,5% you get come from more debt.
So, putting you money there :
- makes you lose money (it's less than inflation).
- supports the plans france was more or less forced to ratify from (among others) the un, eg. replacement migration.
- puts your children even further into debt than we already are.
Sounds like a great plan for everybody ? But yes, you can do it if you insist, sure.
Or you could invest that money on yourself, for instance paying off the house, starting a new business (alone or with like-minded people), helping your kids get a better education (although in this country it's not really a money problem), etc.
It's not like there's a lack of ideas if you take 2 minutes to think about it.
PS there could be some inaccuracies in my data, I must admit I didn't check this subject since negative interest rates entered the equation, since they basically mean that you lose money by saving and earn some by getting debt, which sounds both crazy and not sustainable.
But I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong and there's a lot of money to be made on others this way.
Which might be right, I just have a problem with exploiting my fellow man.
Maybe some naive belief in do unto others etc.
Anyway, bedtime !
Basically all the livrets I know are based off of the livret a, which (afaik) must be mostly backed by sovereign bonds, and gets you 0,5% interests a year.
Also it should be said that if you do the real math france (like most other western countries) is actually in a recession, so even those 0,5% you get come from more debt.
So, putting you money there :
- makes you lose money (it's less than inflation).
- supports the plans france was more or less forced to ratify from (among others) the un, eg. replacement migration.
- puts your children even further into debt than we already are.
Sounds like a great plan for everybody ?
But yes, you can do it if you insist, sure.Or you could invest that money on yourself, for instance paying off the house, starting a new business (alone or with like-minded people), helping your kids get a better education (although in this country it's not really a money problem), etc.
It's not like there's a lack of ideas if you take 2 minutes to think about it.
PS there could be some inaccuracies in my data, I must admit I didn't check this subject since negative interest rates entered the equation, since they basically mean that you lose money by saving and earn some by getting debt, which sounds both crazy and not sustainable.
But I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong and there's a lot of money to be made on others this way.
Which might be right, I just have a problem with exploiting my fellow man.
Maybe some naive belief in do unto others etc.
Anyway, bedtime !