People don't even believe in themselves nowadays. Not surprised.
The Guest said:Nacho said:Eastern Orthodoxy has experienced the opposite of these trends. We have steadily increased our numbers just from protestant ranks. People know the real thing when they see it and are tired of the clown world shit show taking place in their former churches.
Emperor Constantine said:According to Fr. Seraphim Rose's biography, this is one of the things that drove him towards the Orthodox Church. The Christianity he grew up with seemed empty - no fasting, no confessing one's sins, no struggling. People just lived normally, attended Church on Sundays, and apparently believed in God but did little about it. Some of my childhood friends grew up with this type of Christianity, and of those none attend church anymore.
I've known several Orthodox in my life. Mostly Greek-American, some immigrants from the Balkans. None of them attend church regularly, just for family events. According to one survey a majority of Orthodox in America support abortion and gay marriage.
My older Protestant church is doing well, although across the country we're in decline and you can tell there is pressure to cuck on various issues.
Of the serious Christians I know under 35, almost all are evangelicals, and they are a small minority. The state religion is now globohomo.
Nowhere, no denomination is safe.
Extremely liberal (2.5%) — 1.61
Liberal (12.7%) — 1.72
Slightly liberal (11.3%) — 1.58
Moderate (39.9%) — 2.14
Slightly conservative (15.6%) — 2.03
Conservative (14.3%) — 2.34
Extremely conservative (3.7%) — 2.62
41% of Democrats get married
90% of Republicans get married
Children 18 and under of voters registered to political parties:
The 2016 Presidential election in Maryland saw 60% of votes for Hillary vs. 34% to Trump.
Looking at a local level -
Prince George's County, Maryland voted for Hillary 88% to Trump's 8%. Here the Democratic fertility rate is 1.22, or about 55% of replacement rate.
Garnett County, Maryland voted 77% for Trump to Hillary's 18%. Here the Republican fertility rate is 2.21.
Wutang said:With evangelicals, there just isn't that same long history of tradition and culture; which is a reason why evangelicals seem so enamored on clinging onto what's trendy in pop culture because they just don't have really a long cultural history to draw on. Without that tradition/culture, this means the evangelical identity is going to be based more on belief/commitment.
Wutang said:If you want an example of the sort of evangelical culture I'm talking about check this video from one of the biggest megachurches in the country that's wrote a lot of the widely played worship song you here in contemporary church session. More specifically, check out the vocalist and how she's dressed up with tattoos and hipster glasses and edgy lipstick.
"Worthy is your name, Jesus, you deserve the praise."
Wutang said:"Worthy" seems to be word that has been getting used a lot in contemporary worship songs. Here's a song that's came out in recent years that was a big hit among evangelical circles (also note the nose piercing and forearm tattoos on this singer to continue on with my theme of how a lot of these churches adapt modern fashion):
I don't really have a strong opinion either way about the use of the word to describe Christ - but here's an opinion about it
Wutang said:"Worthy" seems to be word that has been getting used a lot
Scott from Treasure State Psychological Services was kind enough to send me a quote that is making the rounds on Facebook:
Jesus didn’t die on the cross for you to be a side chick.
This is just one expression of an ubiquitous perspective by modern Christian women, and the corruption of the message of the Gospel is breathtaking. The problem with this perversion is twofold. First, Christ didn’t sacrifice Himself on our behalf so that Christians (male or female) could have a pleasurable life of sin. Yet the implicit frame of the statement is that women deserve a rewarding experience on the carousel, and if they aren’t getting it men have let them down.
Second, the message of the Gospel isn’t that we are worthy, but unworthy. This is a profound misunderstanding of our relationship to Christ and the very nature of His sacrifice. We don’t deserve the sacrifice He made for us. We are utterly unworthy. If we deserved forgiveness for our sins Christ’s sacrifice would not have been needed. Nor would we have reason to forever thank and praise Him for what He has done for us, since He would have merely been treating us as we deserved.
This twisted frame of mind is everywhere. One commenter at Lori Alexander’s blog reacted to her observation that men prefer debt free virgins by asserting that the message of the Gospel is that she is worthy:
Whether I have or have not gone to college, had sex before marriage, aquired debt, gotten a tattoo, etc. does not make me any less worthy of the sacrificial love of Jesus Christ, so what right does any earthly man (or woman) have to call me less than worthy to simply be his wife due to the same criteria?! Christ > humanity. Be careful that you preach Christ and not your own ideals.
debeguiled said:I can't get into a lot of this modern worship music. She reminds me of the hippie chicks in the 70's who would always get up at the front of concerts and do weird dances.