Major Canadian newspaper uses the term "Red Pill"

[nek]

I hate the term red pill. Especially because it was coined by the formerly Wachowski brothers now siblings. Basically the one became a tranny.

"Red Pill" means very different things to different people, and can fall into the same jingoism and lack of clarity I call reification.

Abtract terms like that get co-opted by the exact forces you are trying to combat, because all powerful forces by definition have money.

What I mean is:

Real Issues where men are treated unfairly which you can intelligently debate:

1) Lifetime alimony when it is almost always paid by men to women out of proportion to their incomes and potential.

2) The fact that 90%+ of workplace deaths are men, and there are no specific programs to combat that.

3) If women get custody more than half the time ( as well as child support despite the men being objectively equally good at parenting and willing.

These are issues that you can discuss in objective terms, for instance the court papers are physically real and list whether the man or woman got custody.

Ambiguous Abstract Issues no one will ever stop arguing about because there is no solution to an abstraction:

1) Feminist philiosophy is bad.

2) We need Red Pill laws.

3) Cultural Marxism is bad.

These are not issues you can discuss objectively. You can argue about what is "red pill" for just as long as you can argue what is "God".

If I ever get in legal trouble, I want you as my lawyer

 

[Quintus Curtius]

The term "red pill" sees its first cited, verifiable use in a mainstream publication...wow.
Just think: fifty years from now, when you look at the entry for "red pill" in the Oxford English Dictionary, the first quotation will date from the year 2013...

 

[Bad Hussar]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.

“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.

Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

 

[scotian]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.

“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.

Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.

 

[Bad Hussar]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.

“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.

Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.

That's interesting. They're idiots then. I'd say Canada has a fairly strong labour movement. Which party is going to protect these interests then?

 

[scotian]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.

“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.

Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.

That's interesting. They're idiots then. I'd say Canada has a fairly strong labour movement. Which party is going to protect these interests then?

The labour movement in Canada is weird, as I said, it used to be the NDP although some of the bigger unions such as the Canadian Autoworkers Union have aligned with the Liberals in recent years. This is where it gets tricky, the biggest employer of union tradesmen in the country is the oil and gas industry in western Canada with tens of thousands of Canadians like me from every corner of the country working out west. There's also hundreds of thousands of people working indirectly though oil and gas, such as manufacturing plants in Eastern Canada which produce parts and machinery for the oil patch.

The Tories under Stephen Harper have basically turned Canada into a peto-state and fully encourage the development of the oil sands as well as other big projects such as potash mining in Saskatchewan or natural gas in BC. Just yesterday the Malaysian government announced the investment of $35 billion in BC's gas sector.

The Liberals will pay lip service to the environmentalists but in reality, they won't reduce Canada's oil and gas output, at least they didn't really while they were in power in recent years (Chetien, Martin). Who knows what Liberal leader Justin Trudeau would do if elected, his dad completely fucked Alberta over in the late 70s with the National Energy Program

That leaves the NDP, who cater to the environmentalist and their leader, Thomas Mulcair has gone on record saying that they would curtail or limit future oil and gas developments in Canada.

So where does that leave the blue collar workers, tradesmen making 6 figures in the oil patch? They won't vote NDP as they would kill their golden goose so most will vote for the Conservatives (Tories) who are pro-business and actually a bit anti-union because they know the Tories will maintain the staus quo and actually encourage further investment and economic development.

 

[Dr. Howard]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.

“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.

Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.

Yep, the Ontario NDP used to have a stronghold in northern Ontario where it was all union labor miners, rail workers and loggers. Now its dead up north and supported by 'diversity' candidates from Toronto.

 

[scotian]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.

“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.

Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.

Yep, the Ontario NDP used to have a stronghold in northern Ontario where it was all union labor miners, rail workers and loggers. Now its dead up north and supported by 'diversity' candidates from Toronto.

I worked with a bunch of boiler makers from Thunder Bay last summer and they said that its pretty much dead in northern Ontario these days. I guess that they can thank Dalton McGuinty who shit canned a bunch of electrical plant construction projects and instead put all of his eggs in the wind energy, green basket. It'll be awhile before the economy there recovers and I'll continue to see Ontario license plates on cars all over Alberta.

McGuinty government silent on green disaster: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/24/mcguinty-government-silent-on-green-disaster

 

[Brosemite]

Conditions needed for feminism to thrive:

Huge excess wealth
Men with no knowledge of Game or even biological reality
Buy in to the mentality promoted by cultural Marxism
Affordable university system that processes most of the middle class

All the above parameters no longer apply.

It's over harridans.

There was a good looking Canadian gal who kept venting to me about how important feminism is, etc etc. I trolled her with apathy & then mentioned that I had difficulty grasping her approach because I come from a (no bullshit) culture that isn't accustomed to pushing (senseless) agendas upon others on a consistent basis (while immediately shaming others for disagreeing or questioning afterwards). She then kept trying to talk in circles thinking of new ways to word her views to me, but it was all bullshit noise I ignored.

Though I am proudly American with a westernized upbringing, this is also where I am quite fond of my Asian influences too.

 

[Dr. Howard]

Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.


Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.

The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.

It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).

I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.

The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.

Yep, the Ontario NDP used to have a stronghold in northern Ontario where it was all union labor miners, rail workers and loggers. Now its dead up north and supported by 'diversity' candidates from Toronto.

I worked with a bunch of boiler makers from Thunder Bay last summer and they said that its pretty much dead in northern Ontario these days. I guess that they can thank Dalton McGuinty who shit canned a bunch of electrical plant construction projects and instead put all of his eggs in the wind energy, green basket. It'll be awhile before the economy there recovers and I'll continue to see Ontario license plates on cars all over Alberta.

McGuinty government silent on green disaster: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/24/mcguinty-government-silent-on-green-disaster

yes, Thunder Bay and North Western Ontario were destroyed during the forestry downturn and most people went out west. I felt especially bad for the east coasters who had already moved once to Ontario and then had to move further again.

McGuinty certainly didn't go out of his way to help northern ontario...providing bail out support for auto but nothing for forestry (Canada's 2nd largest industry). It has started to come back though with mining and some forestry plants starting back up again...the problem now is that everyone is out west and not available to work at home.