Makeup

Starlight

Pelican
Woman
Protestant
What are your thoughts on makeup? No makeup? Some? I think most of us would agree that less is more... but...

Lately, women’s makeup has taken a very interesting turn with the rise of social media. Many of the current makeup trends are directly from drag queen Instagram posts and YouTube makeup tutorials. The “bold” eyebrows, ultra contoured cheeks, and huge fake eyelashes are the same techniques that men use in drag. It’s all costume makeup.

Makeup used to be a tool to highlight a woman’s natural face, not cover them up to look like a man in drag.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Other Christian
I think women taking care of their health is a better guarantee of long-term beauty than makeup. The chemicals in a lot of makeup may actually end up damaging and aging skin as well as impacting women's health in general.

As for the latest trends. I am sure that it is greatly astroturfed by corporations with agendas to make women look like androgynous Men.

It is Satanic to be honest. Just my opinion.
 

R.G.Camara

 
Banned
What are your thoughts on makeup? No makeup? Some? I think most of us would agree that less is more... but...

Lately, women’s makeup has taken a very interesting turn with the rise of social media. Many of the current makeup trends are directly from drag queen Instagram posts and YouTube makeup tutorials. The “bold” eyebrows, ultra contoured cheeks, and huge fake eyelashes are the same techniques that men use in drag. It’s all costume makeup.

Makeup used to be a tool to highlight a woman’s natural face, not cover them up to look like a man in drag.
Agreed, most women on social media that I've seen look like they have spray painted themselves with twelve layers of makeup, and it's ugly.

Largely, this not only comes from drag queens, but also black or dark skinned women using makeup to lighten their looks to appear lighter skinned or part white (skin lightening, accenting cheekbones to appear a different race, adding mascara to the sides of the eyes to give them a more asiatic look, etc.) The Kardashians and Cardi B being good examples.
 

TheMaleBrain

Kingfisher
Gold Member
What are your thoughts on makeup? No makeup? Some? I think most of us would agree that less is more... but...

Lately, women’s makeup has taken a very interesting turn with the rise of social media. Many of the current makeup trends are directly from drag queen Instagram posts and YouTube makeup tutorials. The “bold” eyebrows, ultra contoured cheeks, and huge fake eyelashes are the same techniques that men use in drag. It’s all costume makeup.

Makeup used to be a tool to highlight a woman’s natural face, not cover them up to look like a man in drag.
Disagree - to an extent.
Look at 18 century European makeup, for example. This did not highlight their beauty, but was "unnatural" in a sense you described.
Not to mention traditional Japanese female makeup, which has nothing to do "natural beauty".

I have a different outlook on that - trends come and go. Some of the trends will be "highlight a woman’s natural face" as you said, and some will be exaggerating/grotesque type of makeup.
We live in a hyper-fast culture. This means that you'll have a combination of all different kinds of trends. I'm somewhat familiar with Tictocers/Youtubers/Insta-celebs who actually preach "light makeup". I have teenage girls.

I'm very fond of light makeup. Most of the girls I know "cannot handle" a lot of makeup.
 

messaggera

Pelican
Woman
Other Christian
Make-up is not verified by FDA to be safe.

Children and teenager really do not need to wear makeup - will cause long term damage. There is also talc in makeup, which can cause cancer when inhaled into the lungs.

A great way to control the skin if acne is an issue (and then remove item one below once under control) is:
  • a thin layer of Clindamycin and Tretinoin treatment once a night after washing.
  • Aloe vera and vitamin E all natural soap (natural with no other chemicals) in the morning followed by
  • a face lotion like Ann Webb.

But then again everyone's face chemistry is different. Keeping in natural is best.
Daily intake of a Lysine supplement and PQQ-10 are a nice add on to health skin.
 

Jessie

Robin
Woman
Protestant
I like make up. Not heavy foundation or contouring or fake eyelashes, but the kind that looks like you aren’t wearing very much. It’s healthier to avoid it, since it’s full of chemicals. But it’s pretty and fun, and I can’t see myself ever stopping. So I do my best to find the safest kinds, and just put on as little as possible.
 

MeliMeliEA

Chicken
Woman
I like make up. Not heavy foundation or contouring or fake eyelashes, but the kind that looks like you aren’t wearing very much. It’s healthier to avoid it, since it’s full of chemicals. But it’s pretty and fun, and I can’t see myself ever stopping. So I do my best to find the safest kinds, and just put on as little as possible.
totally agree, makeup is usually used to make your special features look more beautiful and it's not that exaggerrated as it was mentioned previously, makeup may be different and it can be really beautiful
 

Luna Novem

Kingfisher
Woman
Catholic
What are your thoughts on makeup? No makeup? Some? I think most of us would agree that less is more... but...

Lately, women’s makeup has taken a very interesting turn with the rise of social media. Many of the current makeup trends are directly from drag queen Instagram posts and YouTube makeup tutorials. The “bold” eyebrows, ultra contoured cheeks, and huge fake eyelashes are the same techniques that men use in drag. It’s all costume makeup.

Makeup used to be a tool to highlight a woman’s natural face, not cover them up to look like a man in drag.
I like to wear light makeup. I know I look better with it, just like I look better in certain colors. But I keep it simple. I also keep it inexpensive. I can't justify using my husband's hard-earned money on the spendy brands when I can do just as well with stuff from the drugstore.
 

Jessie

Robin
Woman
Protestant
I like to wear light makeup. I know I look better with it, just like I look better in certain colors. But I keep it simple. I also keep it inexpensive. I can't justify using my husband's hard-earned money on the spendy brands when I can do just as well with stuff from the drugstore.

I use the $$$ brands, because they are healthier and they work so much better. I feel like I need less in the long run, because the coverage is so good. If you shop right now, around Black Friday and Cyber Monday, you can stock up and get what you need for half off. I buy enough to last the year (like three or four of everything) and it comes out to just a few dollars more that drug store brands. :)
 

Mrs.DanielH

Woodpecker
Woman
Orthodox
I don't wear it daily. Just on special occasions if I feel like it and even then I only put on a little bit. I also have very sensitive skin so my eyes get itchy whenever I wear makeup. I've tried multiple brands and they are all irritating. Between that and spending the time and money it's not worth it for me to wear it every day.
 

Luna Novem

Kingfisher
Woman
Catholic
I use the $$$ brands, because they are healthier and they work so much better. I feel like I need less in the long run, because the coverage is so good. If you shop right now, around Black Friday and Cyber Monday, you can stock up and get what you need for half off. I buy enough to last the year (like three or four of everything) and it comes out to just a few dollars more that drug store brands. :)
What are your favorites?
 

Kitty Tantrum

Kingfisher
Woman
Trad Catholic
My stance is about as extreme as it is unapologetic: makeup is bad. There is literally nothing good about it. The WHAT is bad for your body; the WHY is bad for your soul.

Whether cheap or expensive, conventional or "natural," at the very least these products interfere with the natural functions of skin and pores (and for things like eye makeup, can also cause issues with tear ducts, etc.). The best any cosmetic product can claim is that it is "less bad." Make no mistake, ladies: companies that sell expensive cosmetics under the pretense that they're somehow beneficial or "restorative" to your body in any way are LYING. There is no delicate way of putting it: if you believe these claims, you are deceived.

Whether minimal or full clown-face, at the very least, the impetus behind daily/routine application (no matter how "tasteful") is always tied up in some kind of vanity, insecurity, or self-objectification. While it may in some cases be objectively true that you APPEAR more attractive with certain features cosmetically enhanced, or certain flaws concealed -- there is absolutely nothing saying that appearing more attractive is any kind of good for you. I posit that it is NOT. I posit that humility is in all cases more beneficial to the soul than vanity.

That's not to say that makeup never has its place - it does. Temporary occasional use for costumes, special occasions, portraits, etc. is totally reasonable, IMO. But if you're wearing makeup all day every day because you're not satisfied with the way you look normally, you would be better served by completely eliminating all cosmetic expenditures (in terms of ALL resources, not just money, but also time, energy, etc. -- drop it all like a hot potato) in favor of investing in your health instead. Good physical health will fix more problems than makeup will conceal, and good spiritual health makes it easier to be content with plainness.

I've known too many women who spend 1-2 hours in the bathroom every. single. morning., cosmetically compensating for the 1-2 hours of sleep they didn't get because they had to wake up early to do their hair and makeup. It's madness. This kind of widespread behavior definitely indicates to me that the emotions driving the use of cosmetics are not healthy.

There's a quote from the show "Call The Midwife" (no I haven't finished it yet, no spoilers) where a little girl says something like "My mummy says only tarts paint their nails."

I'm not gonna lie, that's kinda how I feel about cosmetics in general. No, not that every woman who wears makeup is some kinda hussy. I don't think that, and I doubt very much that any of you ladies look or behave like whores. :laughter: But what I'm getting at, is that on a cultural level and on an industrial level, cosmetics have been normalized for the express purpose of monetizing the sexuality of women on a massive (and typically unwitting) scale.

Take away all the cameras and the mirrors and see how many women keep wearing makeup - and how many men actually care. Makeup isn't really about attracting mates. Good condition, grooming, and hygiene is all that's required for that. Makeup is there to boost the profits of the corporations that have insidiously commodified the sexuality of every single human being they can bring under the lens of their influence.
 

Johnnyvee

Ostrich
Other Christian
What are your thoughts on makeup? No makeup? Some? I think most of us would agree that less is more... but...

Lately, women’s makeup has taken a very interesting turn with the rise of social media. Many of the current makeup trends are directly from drag queen Instagram posts and YouTube makeup tutorials. The “bold” eyebrows, ultra contoured cheeks, and huge fake eyelashes are the same techniques that men use in drag. It’s all costume makeup.

Makeup used to be a tool to highlight a woman’s natural face, not cover them up to look like a man in drag.

When I get dry skin in the winter I sometimes apply extra virgin almond oil to my face/hands. Just 5-10 drops basically. I`ve noticed that it both permeates the skin and it does not cause any allergic response at all, even with long term use. It really makes your face look better also. You sort of get a healthy glow to your face, as macho as that sounds:) But anyway, that seems like a healthy way to improve your appearance instead of makeup. (which I don`t use btw)

I`m not gonna go on along rant here, but quitting caffeine if you can is a great idea in general and for your skin specifically as well, as it causes peripheral vasoconstriction, (reduced blood flow to you skin) mineral/vitamin depletion, increases the rate of glycation of skin (AGES) and inhibits collagen synthesis, among other things also. Influence of caffeine and hyaluronic acid on collagen biosynthesis in human skin fibroblasts (nih.gov)
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
Makeup is bad, bad, bad for your skin. Especially for white women! Women in general, but white women especially, shouldn't wear make-up, drink, smoke, do drugs, or get too much exposure to the sun if they don't want to look old before their time. It's also best to stay away from stressful careers.
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
My stance is about as extreme as it is unapologetic: makeup is bad. There is literally nothing good about it. The WHAT is bad for your body; the WHY is bad for your soul.

Whether cheap or expensive, conventional or "natural," at the very least these products interfere with the natural functions of skin and pores (and for things like eye makeup, can also cause issues with tear ducts, etc.). The best any cosmetic product can claim is that it is "less bad." Make no mistake, ladies: companies that sell expensive cosmetics under the pretense that they're somehow beneficial or "restorative" to your body in any way are LYING. There is no delicate way of putting it: if you believe these claims, you are deceived.

Whether minimal or full clown-face, at the very least, the impetus behind daily/routine application (no matter how "tasteful") is always tied up in some kind of vanity, insecurity, or self-objectification. While it may in some cases be objectively true that you APPEAR more attractive with certain features cosmetically enhanced, or certain flaws concealed -- there is absolutely nothing saying that appearing more attractive is any kind of good for you. I posit that it is NOT. I posit that humility is in all cases more beneficial to the soul than vanity.

That's not to say that makeup never has its place - it does. Temporary occasional use for costumes, special occasions, portraits, etc. is totally reasonable, IMO. But if you're wearing makeup all day every day because you're not satisfied with the way you look normally, you would be better served by completely eliminating all cosmetic expenditures (in terms of ALL resources, not just money, but also time, energy, etc. -- drop it all like a hot potato) in favor of investing in your health instead. Good physical health will fix more problems than makeup will conceal, and good spiritual health makes it easier to be content with plainness.

I've known too many women who spend 1-2 hours in the bathroom every. single. morning., cosmetically compensating for the 1-2 hours of sleep they didn't get because they had to wake up early to do their hair and makeup. It's madness. This kind of widespread behavior definitely indicates to me that the emotions driving the use of cosmetics are not healthy.

There's a quote from the show "Call The Midwife" (no I haven't finished it yet, no spoilers) where a little girl says something like "My mummy says only tarts paint their nails."

I'm not gonna lie, that's kinda how I feel about cosmetics in general. No, not that every woman who wears makeup is some kinda hussy. I don't think that, and I doubt very much that any of you ladies look or behave like whores. :laughter: But what I'm getting at, is that on a cultural level and on an industrial level, cosmetics have been normalized for the express purpose of monetizing the sexuality of women on a massive (and typically unwitting) scale.

Take away all the cameras and the mirrors and see how many women keep wearing makeup - and how many men actually care. Makeup isn't really about attracting mates. Good condition, grooming, and hygiene is all that's required for that. Makeup is there to boost the profits of the corporations that have insidiously commodified the sexuality of every single human being they can bring under the lens of their influence.
I wish I could click like at least 45 times on this.
 

Jessie

Robin
Woman
Protestant
What are your favorites?

I have several favorites, but what works for me won’t necessarily work for you, ya know? I like to stay away from department store brands like Estée Lauder and the like. They have a lot of lead. You can check out ratings on EWG. They score everything from 1 to 10, with 1 being the least chemically. I usually shoot for anything in the 1-4 range, depending on what it is. Anything that sits on your skin should rate as low as possible. I like to mix a little bit of Bare Minerals foundation with lotion. It makes it go on light, like a bb cream. It’s rated a 2. The lotion I mix it with is rated a zero, so very safe. My friend makes it out of oils and beeswax. You can find the recipe on Rose Mountain Oils, I think? Bare minerals only has 30% off this year, sadly, but it lasts a really long time since I mix it with lotion. I love Tarte’s Gifted Mascara. It is a 4. But it’s just sitting on my eyelashes, so nothing is sinking in. It doesn’t irritate my eyes, either. It looks super natural. I use their eyeshadow as eyeliner, and it scores maybe a 2? I just get it wet and apply it with a liner brush. It’s very soft and natural and doesn’t look harsh the way many eyeliners can. I like their clay blush, too. It’s very soft and pretty and doesn’t score high. I don’t wear lipstick at all because it looks bad on me and it’s annoying when it gets on things.

The other ladies are correct in that it’s healthiest to avoid it altogether. But I like it, it’s fun for me to play with, and my husband likes it. I don’t agree that it’s damaging to my soul, but anything can be if it’s made into an idol, even things that are very good.
 

Luna Novem

Kingfisher
Woman
Catholic
My stance is about as extreme as it is unapologetic: makeup is bad. There is literally nothing good about it. The WHAT is bad for your body; the WHY is bad for your soul.

Whether cheap or expensive, conventional or "natural," at the very least these products interfere with the natural functions of skin and pores (and for things like eye makeup, can also cause issues with tear ducts, etc.). The best any cosmetic product can claim is that it is "less bad." Make no mistake, ladies: companies that sell expensive cosmetics under the pretense that they're somehow beneficial or "restorative" to your body in any way are LYING. There is no delicate way of putting it: if you believe these claims, you are deceived.

Whether minimal or full clown-face, at the very least, the impetus behind daily/routine application (no matter how "tasteful") is always tied up in some kind of vanity, insecurity, or self-objectification. While it may in some cases be objectively true that you APPEAR more attractive with certain features cosmetically enhanced, or certain flaws concealed -- there is absolutely nothing saying that appearing more attractive is any kind of good for you. I posit that it is NOT. I posit that humility is in all cases more beneficial to the soul than vanity.

That's not to say that makeup never has its place - it does. Temporary occasional use for costumes, special occasions, portraits, etc. is totally reasonable, IMO. But if you're wearing makeup all day every day because you're not satisfied with the way you look normally, you would be better served by completely eliminating all cosmetic expenditures (in terms of ALL resources, not just money, but also time, energy, etc. -- drop it all like a hot potato) in favor of investing in your health instead. Good physical health will fix more problems than makeup will conceal, and good spiritual health makes it easier to be content with plainness.

I've known too many women who spend 1-2 hours in the bathroom every. single. morning., cosmetically compensating for the 1-2 hours of sleep they didn't get because they had to wake up early to do their hair and makeup. It's madness. This kind of widespread behavior definitely indicates to me that the emotions driving the use of cosmetics are not healthy.

There's a quote from the show "Call The Midwife" (no I haven't finished it yet, no spoilers) where a little girl says something like "My mummy says only tarts paint their nails."

I'm not gonna lie, that's kinda how I feel about cosmetics in general. No, not that every woman who wears makeup is some kinda hussy. I don't think that, and I doubt very much that any of you ladies look or behave like whores. :laughter: But what I'm getting at, is that on a cultural level and on an industrial level, cosmetics have been normalized for the express purpose of monetizing the sexuality of women on a massive (and typically unwitting) scale.

Take away all the cameras and the mirrors and see how many women keep wearing makeup - and how many men actually care. Makeup isn't really about attracting mates. Good condition, grooming, and hygiene is all that's required for that. Makeup is there to boost the profits of the corporations that have insidiously commodified the sexuality of every single human being they can bring under the lens of their influence.
I will say this: During the six weeks in March/April when I obeyed the "stay-home order", I pretty much stopped wearing makeup. It got to the point where it felt REALLY foreign to put it on.
 

Starlight

Pelican
Woman
Protestant
I don't wear it daily. Just on special occasions if I feel like it and even then I only put on a little bit. I also have very sensitive skin so my eyes get itchy whenever I wear makeup. I've tried multiple brands and they are all irritating. Between that and spending the time and money it's not worth it for me to wear it every day.
This is the same as me. I rarely wear makeup in my day-to-day life and only really when my husband and I go out (which is rarely now anyway). Sometimes I’ll use a little pressed powder with a kabuki brush and lightly use a brown mascara but not much more than that.

I've known too many women who spend 1-2 hours in the bathroom every. single. morning., cosmetically compensating for the 1-2 hours of sleep they didn't get because they had to wake up early to do their hair and makeup. It's madness.
“Ain’t nobody got time for that!” :eek:

When I get dry skin in the winter I sometimes apply extra virgin almond oil to my face/hands. Just 5-10 drops basically. I`ve noticed that it both permeates the skin and it does not cause any allergic response at all, even with long term use. It really makes your face look better also.
I used to use Josie Maran Argon oil and then Tarte Maracuja oil. The first time I used an oil on my face it soaked up probably 10 drops. After that I only needed 1-2 drops a day. A little goes a long way.
 
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