Male modesty

Joseph.b

Pigeon
Trad Catholic
Here in Australia, we are heading into the warmer weather, and as people are bound to begin wearing less clothes, it has brought to my mind the question of male modesty. Do the same guidelines for modesty apply to men as to women? I need some practicable advice, because I am a reasonably fit man, and often find myself questioning whether the clothes I'm wearing, which I previously thought little of and look quite good in, are actually immodest. I don't want to lead others to sin, nor jeopardize my relationships with potential spouses. The kind of clothes I refer to are things like well fitting polo shirts, shorts , and in the event of swimming at the river or beach, I want to discern whether it is ok not to wear a shirt if there are women around.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts!
 

Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar

Chicken
Trad Catholic
I live in the Pacific northwest and always wear long pants and button up shirts with long sleeves. This summer we've been experiencing a little heatwave and on particularly hot days I just put on pants and shirts made of lighter material, roll up my sleeves and carry on. I don't have a well sculpted body though. I'm lean and lanky so I don't think that if was wearing immodest clothing I'd turn any heads anyway .

It's good you're thinking about these things. We often to forget that our bodies can excite lustful thoughts in women just as well as their bodies can in us. I could tell you some tales about immodestly dressed women at Church and how their bodies plague one's mind with unholy thoughts during service.

3 Hail Marys for you good sir
God bless you!
 

Tom Slick

Pelican
Orthodox
By default, men can actualize their sexual attraction and sexual drive through visualization, but for women this is not the norm.

Of course, as our society becomes more sexualized, more girls become "boy crazy" and can activate their sexual drive through sight or visualization, which they learn from porn and/or "sex therapists", etc.

Men used to dress as modestly as women and when they went sleeveless bailing hay or constructing a barn, few if any women were around to be tempted, but times have changed.

There is nothing wrong with male modesty. Loose fitting short sleeves and lightweight trousers or sweat pants are appropriate. Spandex is for fags.
 

GigaBITE

Woodpecker
Oriental Orthodox
Reminder that our "casual" clothing (T-shirts, shorts, bluejeans, flip-flops) are mostly a product of late 1960s "youth culture." As Tom Slick mentioned, men (and women) used to dress much more modestly.

One of my father's first big culture shocks in the United States was when his college professor walked into the classroom wearing a T-shirt, shorts, and sandals.
 

Tom Slick

Pelican
Orthodox
Reminder that our "casual" clothing (T-shirts, shorts, bluejeans, flip-flops) are mostly a product of late 1960s "youth culture." As Tom Slick mentioned, men (and women) used to dress much more modestly.

One of my father's first big culture shocks in the United States was when his college professor walked into the classroom wearing a T-shirt, shorts, and sandals.
But hey, at least he wasn't oppressed.
 

JuanChristophorus

 
Banned
Trad Catholic
Here in Australia, we are heading into the warmer weather, and as people are bound to begin wearing less clothes, it has brought to my mind the question of male modesty. Do the same guidelines for modesty apply to men as to women? I need some practicable advice, because I am a reasonably fit man, and often find myself questioning whether the clothes I'm wearing, which I previously thought little of and look quite good in, are actually immodest. I don't want to lead others to sin, nor jeopardize my relationships with potential spouses. The kind of clothes I refer to are things like well fitting polo shirts, shorts , and in the event of swimming at the river or beach, I want to discern whether it is ok not to wear a shirt if there are women around.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts!
Heat is not an excuse. When you look at the men in the Middle East and how men in Europe used to dress they are/were fully covered even in summer. Even when it was 40°C I wore my sweatshirt and I was barely sweating. You have to wear sweatshirts that hang loosely onto your body as you do with pants. In the Middle East their traditional robes protect them from the sun and heat because it hangs loosely and is not tightly fit onto your body. Exposing skin makes it harder not easier to tolerate the heat.

Needless to mention: shorts for men are absolutely haram. Every man looks less respectable wearing shorts, unless your calves are scarred. I wear shorts only when I work out and feel slightly embarrassed about it. The Hagakure says only men who have scarred calves are allowed to wear shorts, so by Japanese samurai standards I am good to go.

Always wear a hat or cap when going outside and remove it once you enter a building.
 

BasilSeal

Kingfisher
Trad Catholic
Gold Member
I had a similar topic here, and I think this is an underrated topic.


I have significantly paired back my clothing. It took several weeks for people to stop asking me "why are you all dressed up?" consisting of khaki/chino pants, a belt, a solid color polo shirt or button down, dark black socks, and shoes not sneakers on most occasions.

If I am around the house, I might wear sneakers or jeans. But I've more or less axed all my sloppy t-shirts, torn jeans, etc. If I bear in mind that I always want to be dressed well enough to stop into church as my guide, clothing choices are easy.

I can't stand hats, though.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
It's a good question. Men and women are different so there's always two perspectives. It almost never happens that something for women directly applies to men or vice versa. That's the fallacy and lie of modern equality. Now the answer to your question is easily answerable looking to world religion where a scarf often is used by women but not by men. Due to their vulnerability and heightened sexdrive in men, this is done to protect women. Now men tend to dress rather modest too which is a form of basic respect. So yeah use some modesty, it's not the traditional norm to parade around barely clothed.
 

ivalyosha

Robin
Orthodox
By default, men can actualize their sexual attraction and sexual drive through visualization, but for women this is not the norm.

Of course, as our society becomes more sexualized, more girls become "boy crazy" and can activate their sexual drive through sight or visualization, which they learn from porn and/or "sex therapists", etc.
Let us not forget the men attracted to men who don't want to be. A man dressing immodestly draws them to sin. There are Christians battling the LGBT demons and their struggle with visual sexual attraction is no different than straight men. Even the prideful gays should not be led to even more sin due to our actions.
 

Cast Throw

Chicken
Other Christian
I find myself engaging in modesty out of respect for God and empathy for the insecure. Baggy, plain clothes and caps.

I am not the prototypical Chad, but God has indeed blessed me with with above average looks. Combined with rather tight game and mannerisms…. I know it can inspire insecurity within some. I find myself empathetic, and even downplay my own mannerisms to console any of the insecure. There is no need to be “top dog” 24/7. The only Alpha is GOD.

I used to walk with my haughty eyes, and honestly, flaunt myself like a female. The Lord punished me accordingly.

We must have empathy for those not as blessed and avoid conducting ourselves like the fallen women of this world. Modesty is key to this. We should be grateful but that is it. At the end of the day, the Lord detests haughty eyes, and he will chastise you accordingly until you surrender. You are men not women.
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Don't know about you guys but I would love some nice Roman robes like you see in traditional pictures of Christ. Don't care what anyone thinks it looks really comfortable.
 

Simul Justus et Peccator

Chicken
Protestant
I live in a tropical country and I wear full-length trousers and tees when going to class. There's no excuse to not apply the same standards of modesty to ourselves as we would want for women.

Unless you're that archetypical chad, or there are lecherous women who are incapable of controlling their urges, you're not going to excite any woman by the sight of your bare arms.
 
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