Man avoids jail after having sex with 12-year-old girl he thought was of legal age

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godfather dust

 
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Around 14 years old some girls can pass for 18. 12 is pushing it but could have passed for 16 (legal in some states) I suppose.

I would rather a judge throw it out as a regular thing then be forced to ask for ID (I tell them to buy me smokes if it's questionable, I'm not at the point of consent contracts etc Chapelle style at this point.)
 

Thrill Jackson

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scotian said:
Atlanta Man said:
polar said:
Atlanta Man said:
The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.
This is true. If I have a 16 year old girlfriend, which is legal, she cannot send me nudes- she would be producing child porn, I would be receiving and possessing it (even if I deleted it immediately and told her never to do it again). Also because she is a minor if I take her on vacation to Florida the law says I am taking a minor over state lines for sex-Technically I can take her to Florida, we just cannot have sex there.Furthermore I cannot drink with her or do any illicit substances, that is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. So the law is reasonable in some respects, but an asshole cop or prosecutor can make life difficult if they so choose.

There's a big consent sex scandal happening now in Canada involving a senator and a woman he banged when she was 18 but apparently he "groomed" her according to police, the senator is black so he's pulling the race card: Don Meredith 'groomed' teen for sex, former police chief says
Meredith maintains he didn't have intercourse with the woman until she turned 18. Ottawa Police investigated the allegations but didn't lay charges against Meredith. The age of consent in Canada is 16 years old, except for the exploitative situations described in section 153. White said the Criminal Code provision describes what Meredith is alleged to have done. "It talks about people in a position of trust or power who literally groom someone between the age of 16 and 18 years for sexual favour. That's exactly what is described by the [Senate] investigator," he said.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-meredith-groomed-teen-for-sex-former-police-chief-says-1.3329776

Fuck this grooming bullshit, so what he chatted with a teenager? He did the right thing by waiting until she was 18 to go for the bang, maybe it was a bit greasy to do this if he was married but fuck it, sex between two consenting adults shouldn't be shamed. As Pierre Trudeau once quipped "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

This reminds me of one of Roosh's quotes

"Anything you do that increases your ability to be sexually successful while decreasing your dependence on dating American women will result in them trying to isolate and disparage you."

God forbid the man use the status he worked his as off to get for his benefit.

I don't necessarily approve of any cheating for a man/women who is married but to say its a bigger problem because he banged a 18 year old he "groomed" is preposterous
 

RBerkley

 
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Roosh said:
Girls are going through puberty at earlier ages. If you saw the "Cash Me outside" girl outside on the street, would you guess she's 13?

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Eminem asks Dre to look at her bush does it got hair (Got Milk? parody) LoL.

By the way regarding AoC to other posters, Roosh already stated in his 2015 World Tour that lowering the Age of consent will only apply to the Elite, LGBT and feministe people. That Cash Me out chick will still be considered illegal jailbait that I wouldn't even be surprised if a male accidentally smelled her farts it will be considered "rape".

So you may find the Aoc for Girls to increase to 21 for hetero-sex, while the female teacher is getting fucked inside her glasshouse by a 5-year-old boy who reached puberty earlier from GMO foods and early Introduction to Sexual Education at school.
 

RIslander

 
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I feel like a man of average sensibilities could tell if a girl was 12. But then again, after reading this thread, I'm not so sure.
 

godfather dust

 
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RIslander I agree 12 is pushing it hard, even if they have some curves it should be pretty obvious as far as I'm concerned. There's some dumb people out there, either this dude was dumb or caught a big break.
 

RBerkley

 
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Foolsgo1d said:
From Excelsior in funny pictures thread.

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Pretty much sums it up but she does look like a child.

This chick knows how to twerk her ass at 13?
:mindblown3:

Hopefully, there aren't unsuspecting men who wouldn't be coerced by that chick to drain out their bank account or throw racks, bricks and the entire Cash supply from the Federal Reserve bank vault at that bitch who wanna play like she 18 and up. It's not that easy to recognize that she under 18 if you can only see her twerking in a video. You can hardly see her face, which appears to be modified to look older, like at least 16 or 17.
 

RBerkley

 
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scotian said:
Atlanta Man said:
polar said:
Atlanta Man said:
The one think I like about Atlanta and several other southern States is they lowered the age of consent to 16 which is somewhat reasonable. At least if a girl is driving and lies and says she is 18, she has a drivers licence and insurance so you are not facing prison, just angry parents.

I am not a lawyer, but aren't there still ten ways to get fucked til Sunday if she's under 18, in most states? Not being close in age is one exception, another being from out of state (crossing state lines)...etc. This isn't something to fuck around with.
This is true. If I have a 16 year old girlfriend, which is legal, she cannot send me nudes- she would be producing child porn, I would be receiving and possessing it (even if I deleted it immediately and told her never to do it again). Also because she is a minor if I take her on vacation to Florida the law says I am taking a minor over state lines for sex-Technically I can take her to Florida, we just cannot have sex there.Furthermore I cannot drink with her or do any illicit substances, that is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. So the law is reasonable in some respects, but an asshole cop or prosecutor can make life difficult if they so choose.

There's a big consent sex scandal happening now in Canada involving a senator and a woman he banged when she was 18 but apparently he "groomed" her according to police, the senator is black so he's pulling the race card: Don Meredith 'groomed' teen for sex, former police chief says
Meredith maintains he didn't have intercourse with the woman until she turned 18. Ottawa Police investigated the allegations but didn't lay charges against Meredith. The age of consent in Canada is 16 years old, except for the exploitative situations described in section 153. White said the Criminal Code provision describes what Meredith is alleged to have done. "It talks about people in a position of trust or power who literally groom someone between the age of 16 and 18 years for sexual favour. That's exactly what is described by the [Senate] investigator," he said.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-meredith-groomed-teen-for-sex-former-police-chief-says-1.3329776

Fuck this grooming bullshit, so what he chatted with a teenager? He did the right thing by waiting until she was 18 to go for the bang, maybe it was a bit greasy to do this if he was married but fuck it, sex between two consenting adults shouldn't be shamed. As Pierre Trudeau once quipped "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

There are white knight cops in Canada who will claim that a 30+ female teacher who fucks a 16-year-old schoolboy in her car after school isn't committing a crime, but a young man in his early 20s who receive sexting pics from a 17-year-old chick will be arrested for a child rape-related crime such as electronic grooming of minor on internet.

Hey, there was even that story in Toronto about some thot teacher named Nathalie Champagne who videoed herself on Skype sucking a 16-year-old boy's cock on a Skype conference between other under-age male students who were reportedly masturbating to the video of her acting sexy to her student...She only lost her Teaching license...No reported arrest.
 

Skank_Hunt

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When the cash me outside thing was all over youtube I saw one video of her going in on this girl called "Malu", who is a 14 year old "belly dancer" on youtube. Not going to link to them because I'm not sure why they haven't been taken down yet.

I think it's a bit weird and scary to see 13-14 year old girls like this sexualized so early to the point where it's just not possible to tell the difference. It's all an effect of the sick western culture: a woman rewarded with hundreds of millions of dollars, goddess like worship the world over... effectively for banging Ray J on camera. And as much of a creative genius some people regard Kanye may be, he is still worshipping a whore and has made her the mother of his children. For someone so intelligent it's disappointing that he bought into the hype as well.

Now 13 year old girls are putting in ass implants, plastering on makeup, not going a day without having a boyfriend otherwise they would die, broadcasting it to the world as if it's something to be proud of? A few quotes from this 13-14 year old Malu chick: "I've only kissed 20 guys. That's not a lot." and "Me and my bf broke up. I want to [die]. I want to be in a car accident."

There is the nature versus nurture argument regarding mental illness. I believe that in the Anglosphere in particular and some other parts of the west, both politics and pop culture trends have converged to create an increasingly strong "nurture" component in young women's likelihood of developing this particular sort of mental illness, which when combined with the inherent genetic nature of women is creating quite a scary epidemic indeed.

The knock on effect of this is of course mental illness in adolescent men and men in general: a large part of a man's mental health is determined by the quantity and quality of intimate relationships he has with women. If the supply of women is so widely and severely affected with a certain mental illness that renders them attention seeking whores from an increasingly young age, then inevitably insufferable into "older" age (by "older" I mean 18+ in this context!)... men, too, are more likely to go insane. Hence the 3.5:1 male:female suicide rate. A girl at 14 may feel she "wants to die" when she breaks up with her boyfriend and cuts herself, but two days later she jumps on another dick and is on top of the world. Adolescent men and men in general don't have that luxury. We either adapt in some way (e.g. high level game, expatriation, MGTOW etc.) or die, all too often by our own hand.
 

Atlanta Man

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After watching Malu dance, and seeing her and Danielle go at it I have discover that the only way to really know a girls age is to really have a conversation with them while you are completely sober. Malu is calm enough where it might take a few minutes to figure out she is a 15 year old (one year from legal in Georgia ) , that crazy Danellie girl would just take roughly 5-10 seconds before her age shows. It is king of crazy because when I was 24 I had an 18 year old girlfriend who would regularly get called out by other 21 year olds for being under age when I got her in the clubs, and she looked a lot like Malu back in 1999 when I was on the rave scene hardcore. When I was 26 my girlfriend was 17 but she was a freshman in college from Russia and nobody could tell she was under 21 because she was very mature in the way she behaved, she used to make fun of 21-26 year old women and call them "stupid American girls" and could not believe how obnoxious they were (keep in mind she graduated high school at 16 and came to America on a full tennis scholarship, so her mind was on another level). As men to protect ourselves we have to only fuck sober women after an hour of conversation with proper ID, and full social media background check-it is the only way to be safe.
 

Atlanta Man

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That Malu girl has a mother and a father so at least you don't have to worry about her being unsupervised, wild, and out of control at an adult spot with a fake id. If you see Malu on a college campus she will be 18 and in college not 15 with a fake ID. Those videos were kind of funny, Danielle going ballistic and ghetto-and Malu calmly explaining that her parents taught her how to speak properly and act like a calm educated person, at one point she says she cannot understand what Danielle is even saying and she needs to speak clearly and in normal English. America needs more two parent homes.
 

Skank_Hunt

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I can see why you would prefer Malu based on some of the videos. On other videos Malu actually swears more than Cashme ("fucking" and "motherfucking" almost every sentence). There are also signs Malu is in many ways more mentally ill than Cashme. Malu is the kind of girl who can definitely fool you into believing she is 16 or 18 or whatever the legal age is where you live, and manipulate you with her looks and innocent charm.

Malu claims she is a virgin and even if you give her the benefit of the doubt she also admitted to having kissed 20 guys by the time she was 13 years old but thinks that is completely fine. The multiple personality girls are the ones that can be the most dangerous:

crazy+vulgar+slutty/normal+graceful+innocent.

Every girl who is old enough to give birth to an extent has those two sides to her, but there are definite pathological extremes that are quite incredible. "Weapons of ass destruction" indeed.

Cashme has the same two sides, but the feminine "normal" side is rarely apparent and is overshadowed by the strong ghetto, aggressive, crazy, vulgar, slutty side. So with Cashme you know more or less what you are getting. She is more "real" and bizarrely mature for her age in personality as well, even though she is obviously very immature as well. I guess because "in the streets" "keeping it 100" is a virtue. "Fake ass bitches" are not very well looked upon. She is 13 years old and listens to Kodak Black, and understands a lot of the things he raps about. If she were a real child, there is no way she could comprehend any of that shit. I'm not a fan but Kodak is known for rapping very frankly about the most disturbing and depressing things he has seen growing up in the projects.



Instead of this rabid, irrational witch hunt against normal men deceived by manipulative, physically and psychologically grown young women, western society should address the increasingly fast sexualization of pubescent girls and the consequent rapid degradation of their personalities. No longer do we have as the default sweet, innocent, feminine girls who just wish to be good wives and mothers. This has been replaced by CASHMEOUSSIDEHOWBOWDAH and God-tier levels of highly vulgar, highly sexualized attention whoring.

Of course the rot has set in and it's too late now. That's why so much of this forum is about "what is the best shithole I can go to where women are at least tolerable". As the internet and social media spreads across the world, these places become increasingly rare. Why else do men voluntarily go to small 3rd tier towns in Belarus? There you might not have many of the comforts of modern western society but you also have girls that would look upon specimens like Cashme and Malu with complete confusion.

Nobody will be surprised to know that Cashme has now got a reality TV show. One measure of how degenerate a society has become is how degenerate behavior is punished. It's not even punished anymore; it's rewarded. All women see this from a young age and adapt accordingly.
 

Atlanta Man

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I agree with everything you wrote, I think the new trend in America is sexualizing thirteen to sixteen year old girls and it is all powered by social media. It is absolutely bizarre to watch it happen in real time so suddenly. I am not into Islam , but this is what they see when they rail against western civilization - my niece is thirteen, I would rather see her put on a burka than become an Instagram THOT. Weimerica is really a thing, they are going to normalize the sexualizing of eleven year olds next-it is coming , mark my words.......
 

texas

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If any of y'all have Snapchat and notice the "featured" stories it's brutally apparent that Atlanta Man is right. I only use the app for hooking up with chicks (which is disgusting in itself :angel:), but the featured stories which are clearly geared at high school and younger are bizarrely sexual and some just vulgar.

Imagine back in the 90s or whenever time period you want, an 11 year old girl reading a Cosmopolitan slut handbook. They would have had to go to a store and get someone to sell it to them and then hopefully have to sneak it past their folks and read it in hiding or something. Now all of the same info is directly funneled to any young kid with a smart phone for free.

Atlanta Man your signature is great bro.
 
You guys are not serious there.

Let me historically Red Pill all of YA!

Up until roughly 100 years ago the entire world was one massive fuck-fest where many women of the lower class were losing their virginity as soon as her pussy started to itch them. Also right about the same time the lower bottom 20% were selling pussy. That was the norm in almost all societies. Even the Muslim world was similiar, but there the massive amount of non-Muslim sex-slave girls took their roles. So essentially they only outsourced it to other women that had to be bought and captured as slaves (or born to slaves).


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All societies were like that and it was normal. With rising wealth, rise of a large middle class that number of women got less and less. Still - even in the so-called conservative 1950s there was a stark surprisingly high number of whores - some cities had 1000% more prostitutes than today!

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Why was that?

There was a difference between whores and the women you married with virginity intact (and you married them very early - usually starting at puberty).

Also poverty pushed many women into prostitution early on.

What you are looking at is the last 100 years and being upset about a 13yo whose pussy likely is itching her 10 times more than other girls. Just as there are men out there who have 10 times the libido of other men, there are women out there who have 10 times the libido of other women.

Sure - the internet and slut culture is promoting this behavior without poverty forcing women to do this. But this is nothing new frankly. Instincts are instincts and when they kick in, then they are there.

This is the norm for all of human history. We can muse around here and construct our ideal social systems, but putting a Burka on your female children is not worth it. That crap comes with it's own set of problems and they are worse than rampant slutting around.

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No sluts, no prostitutes, no slave girls - then you have ladyboys - enjoy - the best of Pakistan.

Most women unless they have terrible role models can reign in their instincts in our times as well in the West.

The reality of sex starting at puberty has to be faced as the norm throughout all of human history. And frankly this will probably be the norm in 2000 years when humanity has interstellar travel.

The pendulum of degeneration will swing back to conservatism. That also isn't the first time in human history. This is not new. It may get worse for a while and then maybe in 80 years most of humanity will be more uptight again. Or they will lower the age of consent to the Japanese 13 years, also let everyone vote and do porn at that age - who knows.

As for maturity - 18 year old men are allowed to march into wars while still being highly immature - being maimed for bullshit causes for the elite. Sometimes you have to live with decisions you make for yourself early on.

Awareness of your actions has to start early - in most of human history it did - only our times are allowing both genders to remain childish for so long:

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I am not saying that this is necessarily good in all aspects, but we have to face the fact that we humans can if needs be grow up fast. The ceremonies of Rites of Passage like the Bar Mitzvah is chosen not without reason at age 12. Something similar happened in most cultures - after that you were viewed as a man or a woman, albeit a very young one. Still - you could marry already or start working.

Either way - our current perception of "childhood" and "adolescence" is not based on biology frankly.
 

Atlanta Man

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^Age appropriate is informed by culture, Zelscorpion just earned a rep point for completely changing my perspective. I still do not like watching 13 year old girls whore themselves out, but I guess it is just how I was raised and the times I live in. If I was born in the another time 13 would be fine, Lolita was about a 12 year old now that I think about it. It just fucks with my head because I have relatives that are 13, I would hate to see them twerking on Snapchat.

Edit: Already repped you, I wish I could do it again-Guess he always has something insightful to add to discussions.
 

Skank_Hunt

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Indeed that is why the legal age in many countries in the world is 13-14 which is pretty much when, like it or not, most of these girls are grown enough to give birth. And in other times, sure, prostitution from such a similar age was one of the ways the early development of adolescent girls manifested itself. Nowadays, it is the internet, the freedom to search for whatever content you want, and the freedom to broadcast yourself and whore yourself out for attention as much as you want. Without these "tools", these girls would be a lot more pleasant and a lot less crazy. Instead of twerking live to 50,000 viewers, a 14 year old girl might get her first boyfriend, get her heart broken, write in her diary about her heartbreak, cry to her mother, bake cakes with her mother etc. Now it's press a few buttons and satisfy your need for attention by virtually whoring yourself out to the entire world. As women age they decline both in pleasantness and in appearance, but it sure would be a lot slower without the internet and social media. Maybe Malu was never going to be the most stable of women, or the sharpest tool in the toolbox, but she would have been a hell of a lot better without instagram etc. etc. When they become legal, they can add online dating sites to their sources of e-worship. Anyone who has lived in the west can correlate the rise of online dating with the decline in quality and quantity of women, both in looks and in personality.

Many of us remember a time when there was no internet, or where there was internet but it had not reached mainstream use yet. Far more pleasant women instead of burnt out whores before they are even 18. Girls who valued real life interactions with men because there weren't these intoxicating sources of worldwide attention.

The saddest part, and it comes back to the original post of this thread, is that normal men are being classed as pedophiles and punished as such. I've seen a few comments along the lines of "Malu is hot", "WB DGAF YOLO" etc. immediately followed by "Pedophile!!! or "Have fun getting raped in jail sick pedophile!!!" etc. There are tons of countries which have legal age of 14, isn't Peru 13-14 and Japan 13, for example, and the list goes on. The laws of countries which do not recognize fertility and sexual maturity at this kind of age are those countries which produce such inflammatory vitriol in response to any mention of technically underage (within their jurisdiction) e-whores such as Malu in a sexual manner because that jurisdiction has in Law punishments (i.e. long jail sentences) which correspond to the level of vitriol spewed for normal men who happen to express those "WB" thoughts in real life. It's just an online mirror to what happens if you do that shit in real life. The man in the original post of this thread was, as I have said, very lucky, because usually men get locked up for quite some time for indiscretions such as this. I would call a man who bangs a sexually mature 14 year-old in a jurisdiction where the arbitrary age set by that jurisdiction is 16 stupid, however this same man is not a pedophile.

It beggars belief that one should have to explain an obvious scientific fact to 99% of the adult population who should have learned this in highschool, but a pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. We're talking 2 year olds, 6 year olds, that kind of shit. To me, this is inconceivable. But clearly there are men (and women) born with this, and sometimes they are exclusively attracted to prepubescent children, an even greater curse. The actions of pedophiles who put their desires into action are obviously abhorrent, but that doesn't meant to say one cannot feel sorry for them at the same time. Especially the so-called "non-practising", and among those, especially pedophiles who have an exclusive attraction to children. On this forum we all take for granted that we are attracted to hot women. We can't imagine anything else, nor have we known anything else. At age 11,12,13... it just "appeared" and never went away. What if "hot women" were replaced with "exclusively 5 year old boys" and that's that, nothing you can do about it? There is no class of human beings who are collectively despised by society more than pedophiles. A man can murder 1000 people yet be held in far higher regard than a pedophile, even, perhaps, a pedophile who has not even yet acted upon his/her desires.

However this thread is not even about a pedophile. Nor are the "WB" youtube comments about Malu or Cashme or whatever other online attention whore made by pedophiles. My problem is that, depending on where you live, and the arbitrary age cut-off point determined by the Law in your jurisdiction, you are, in the eyes of the Law, either a pedophile or not. The man in the original post as I have said on numerous occasions before was very lucky because this kind of involvement in a "Weapon of Ass Destruction" usually leads to unjustly grave consequences for men, perhaps sometimes naive and/or stupid men, but normal men nonetheless. There are lightyears between being duped by 14 going on 18 Cashmeousside and being attracted to 3 year old toddlers. The increasingly misandric Law in the Anglosphere is so idiotic that it reduces the effective distance from "lightyears" to "within walking distance", and society follows. By this screwed up logic, my neighbor lives nextdoor ten meters away, and Alpha Centauri is the cornerstore.
 

Tex Cruise

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Relevant: from "Get Ready To Be Boyzvoiced" - Norwegian mocumentary from 2000...

 

RBerkley

 
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@ Skankhunt, though I think Roosh will probably want to avoid such discussions (while feminists teacher want to pose nude in front of schoolchildren for "Sexual Education"), the Law regarding Age of Sexual Consent was as low as 12 in Latin America-Caribbean and even 14 in Canada up to 2004-2006, before the feminist movement started to increase in power.

Plus, those laws weren't even enforced strictly unless it was considered serious such as impregnating a 12-year-old or rape, etc.

It's only the feminist movement in the 21st century which started the Witch-hunt to change the Age of Consent to 18 and beyond, which punishes the teens they claim to protect (no Romeo & Juliet provision or excusing an Aspie 21-year-old from losing his virginity to a 13-year-old to 16-year-old Cash Me Ousside Instagram chick).

It was considered in Hitlery Clinton's policy to force other countries to set their Age of Consent to at least 18, even up to 21 in cases of "exploitation".

Then you have these fucking Westernized educated feminazi cunts travelling abroad to bully foreign governments to raise the age of consent to 18 and beyond infinity and beyond like Buzz Lightyear, yet those feminazis would likely "teach" a starving 4-year-old Black or Middle Eastern refugee how to suck her pussy.

Current Age of Consent legislation is a feminist weapon used against masculinity and hot chicks. Yes, hot chicks are affected by the Age of consent feminist hysteria.

There were 16 & 17-year-old Swiss chicks who were pissed off when the country increased the legal prostitution age to 18. Even in the city of Amsterdam, old fucking feminist cunts were forcing the EU to increase that city's prostitution age to 21.
 
It's a fact that teenagers looks at least 4 years older today and going through puberty 2 years younger (growth hormones in food) compare to 50 years ago! If you ask me Western teenagers look at least 6 years older and hit the wall so much faster due to poor food and lifestyle today.

The problem isn't young teenagers having sex, it's pop culture which is excessively encouraging children to act and be sluts! Compare this to 100 years ago where you saved yourself for marriage.
 
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