Man marries virgin cutie... she morphs into tattooed slut

[asdfk]

Roosh, I like your conclusion. Yes, a woman needs to decide to be a good woman. You don't know how a virgin will respond when temptation comes knocking. But if a woman found out the hard way what she wants in life (not through riding the carousel but making some innocent mistakes) there's a higher chance of success.

One girl I was with briefly 18 months ago falls in this category. She made some mistakes, but looking at the total of her behavior and family situation I have no doubt she is marriage material. This is rare but not as unusual as many men seem to think. She still wants to get back together.

 

[infowarrior1]

''Marrying a virgin is not a guarantee that your marriage will work out.''

Indeed. Its a game of chance ultimately and virgins increase the odds of a healthy marriage. But the state of a person's heart is out of one's control. The best one can do is to be as discerning as humanly possible. But be prepared for loss.

 

[redbeard]

Fifty three thousand followers on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/caitlinflads_

That's the size of the University of Florida, constantly giving her confidence that she's doing the right thing.

Unfortunately this is the reality of the social media age. It doesn't matter if you wife her up and move her to the mountains, as long as she's on the internet, the social media culture will influence her as much as (if not more) than IRL culture.

 

[Borges]

I would totally understand if you said you wanted a virgin, but that you were willing to settle for a woman who has been with a few men because virgins are simply so hard to find in this day and age.

I don't think Roosh was saying a non-virgin is preferable - he had just mentioned he'd rather settle down with a virgin.

In any case, I do think family oriented girls with very low dick counts are potentially good candidates for LTRs. I agree with you that a virgin is better in every way, but if you're seriously looking to start a family, at some point you need to compromise. It is massively hard to find family oriented girls, massively hard to find virgins, and it's even harder to do it when you're in your 30s or 40s.

I have an example. A couple of years ago I met a very religious girl. We went on a few dates. She had a regular job, but she hated it. She frequently shared pictures of babies and families in her social media. It was easy to tell she had no interest in a career or any modern bullshit - she just wanted to settle down with someone and pump out some kids.

However, despite her religiousness, she wasn't a virgin. She had had sex exactly one time before, when she was a teen. Lost her virginity to a school teacher she became infatuated with. Her parents found out and the guy moved out of town. That's the story she told me, anyway. She was 20 something when I met her. She was feminine, very attentive to her looks, and treated me very well. Her social circle was almost entirely made up by religious people.

Ultimately I decided not to pursue a relationship with her, the primary reason being that I knew she was looking to marry someone and I didn't want to marry a non-virgin. To this day I wonder if I didn't make the wrong decision bailing on this girl. I also feel I basically alpha widowed her, because she still texts me. Sure, she wasn't my ideal, but when it comes to marriage and kids, what's really important is whether the woman will be a good mom, a good wife, etc.

 

[Rakers]

How do you know she was a virgin?

 

[No More Mr. Soy Boy]

Also, I believe that if you're not the man to take your wife's virginity, in a way she will never completely belong to you. The man who took your wife's virginity (and any other men who have banged her) will always own a part of her soul.

I would totally agree with you and I've been thinking a lot about this.

But imagine if you were with a nice virgin girl and opened her diary book from her teenage years and found out that she had been dreaming and had fantasies about sleeping with anoter particular man. She wrote how she stalked him on social media, look through his photos and had a desperate need to just suck this guy's dick, swallow his juice, get mouthfucked and banged in the ass by him and become his property.

By accident, I just happened to listen to a podcast for younger women the other day where they discussed how they would choose Justin Bieber of their own boyfriends if they could. Most were honest. And I mean, how will you ever be able to compete with that. Most virgins will have had a teenage crush too.

Would that feel better than a chick who had slept with 3 beta dudes where there was no question whatsoever that you were the best man she's ever been with and ever had a crush on?

My point is that I start to realize it's a fantasy to believe a woman won't have fantasies and attraction for other men who own a little part of her soul. Most good examples of decent married women we see probably don't dream about their man anyway when they're fingering themselves but to the dick of a famous rich celeb.

 

[Eusebius]

I think the obsession with virgins is a protective measure so that we can continue to hold on to the idea that there is a perfect, unspoiled girl out there - or there should be but this degenerate society prevents her from staying "pure". There are no perfect women out there, virgin or not. Women are not spoiled by losing their virginity. It's all in your head.

 

[moneyshot]

I think the obsession with virgins is a protective measure so that we can continue to hold on to the idea that there is a perfect, unspoiled girl out there - or there should be but this degenerate society prevents her from staying "pure". There are no perfect women out there, virgin or not. Women are not spoiled by losing their virginity. It's all in your head.

There is definitely some truth to the "guy (OR girl) you lost your virginity to will forever be a part of your sexual memories, however small" bit, though. I mean, the girl I lost my virginity to was an absolute pro at sex, but despite the fact that she's a fat cumrag with a revolting personality I'm never gonna forget about her completely.

 

[Built to Fade]

The biggest challenge for men who choose to marry isn't in the choice of the woman, it's the influence that a corrupt society has on the woman.

At some point, a girl has to DECIDE to be a good woman. She must consciously resist the cock :carousel:.

That's probably a tough task for a lot of women since it requires them to do the following three things consciously:

1. Discern the difference between truth and delusion
2. Take responsibility and be made accountable for their actions
3. Genuinely learn from their experiences
   

Many women (and "soyboys") either don't understand this or won't admit this. Their NPC thought processes will be their indefinite stumbling block.

I understand that this means filtering out many women (as well as numerous "soyboys").

This story black pills me. I feel paralyzed and unable to move while staring down into the abyss. Society is dysfunctional beyond words ...

... I've recently been to developing countries in Eastern Europe and I've noticed being poor doesn't stop women from being degenerate mothers like this. They leave their man at a young age because "he was abusive" and get on the cock :carousel: & just lie about being single moms. What amazes me most is they are poor af but still manage to find money to fund clothes, make up and even towards some plastic surgery (lips, nose, breasts, ass, in that order).

I need to take a small break from rvf ☹⛈

Don't tempt me. ☹⛰⛈

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"We had a beautiful magic love there. What a sad, beautiful, tragic love affair." "It was rare, I was there, I remember it all too well." #260

 

[PetiteMinded]

Virgins lol. You lot obviously never had any if you think they are the keepers, the ones to love and care for your kids. "our" society will make sure that these "virgins" WILL feel undone

Go for the 28yo just above average lookin one that rode 340 cocks but is still fertile for 5 or so years. Start a family man

 

[Seeker79]

Everyone has to settle at some of. Being able to compromise is what sets us apart from animals. Finding a woman who has enough smarts to compromise and commit to life together, that's the real challenge. Having some lessons learned is almost a requirement. And we're not perfect either.

 

[moneyshot]

Virgins lol. You lot obviously never had any if you think they are the keepers, the ones to love and care for your kids. "our" society will make sure that these "virgins" WILL feel undone

Go for the 28yo just above average lookin one that rode 340 cocks but is still fertile for 5 or so years. Start a family man

You first, beta cuck.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I think the obsession with virgins is a protective measure so that we can continue to hold on to the idea that there is a perfect, unspoiled girl out there - or there should be but this degenerate society prevents her from staying "pure". There are no perfect women out there, virgin or not. Women are not spoiled by losing their virginity. It's all in your head.

I think it has its basis in biology, like women's preference for height. The reason I think this is because men's preference for virgins seems to cross cultural and religious lines, just like women's preference for height (and resources/money, for that matter).

The question is why. It's probably a protective measure on the part of men to assure a better life for the offspring. Women who have been with a lot of men are more likely to be a flight risk and not stick around, therefore damaging the lives of the kids.

Statistics on divorce bear this out. The more partners a woman has, the more likely divorce is. Below are some sources for this info. Even the commies at the Atlantic seem to agree.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/10/sexual-partners-and-marital-happiness/573493/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...ual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/why-sluts-make-bad-wives/

 

[redpillage]

You won't ever get a young, beautiful, virgin wife who will stay loyal and cherish you for the rest of your life. It's a fantasy, just like getting a tall, well hung reformed player and maximum alpha male billionaire is for a woman. And if you aren't the latter, you certainly don't deserve the first.

So what it really comes down to is what you can settle for. You are far from perfect and so your wife will be far from perfect as well.

Personally I have come to realize that I will just get a relatively non-slutty girl who is reasonably agreeable. Have her pump out a baby or two. In the meantime I will have sex with other women until our relationship has become so unbearable that we'll separate/divorce, and then it's time for the next one.

This has been the natural cycle forever and it's the way it will always be. That girl we have in our minds is nothing but a mirage, just as we are to women. Perfection is out of reach and happiness in the human, spiritual and material world is always fleeting. All we can do is accept it and make the best of it.

Look mate, it's one thing to settle for a 7 or 8 if you've dreamed of nailing a 9 or 10. It's another to marry your cutie high school sweetheart virgin and watch her transform into a tatted Instagram whore.

I didn't settle and neither should you. Always make it clear that you are willing to walk away from the deal if immutable rules are being broken. Reg. children: this is why men traditionally married younger woman. With some life experience you make better choices and don't marry as a teenager without having a clue on how to keep that bitch in check.

 

[redpillage]

Ultimately I decided not to pursue a relationship with her, the primary reason being that I knew she was looking to marry someone and I didn't want to marry a non-virgin. To this day I wonder if I didn't make the wrong decision bailing on this girl. I also feel I basically alpha widowed her, because she still texts me. Sure, she wasn't my ideal, but when it comes to marriage and kids, what's really important is whether the woman will be a good mom, a good wife, etc.

:facepalm::facepalm3:

 

[redpillage]

Also, I believe that if you're not the man to take your wife's virginity, in a way she will never completely belong to you. The man who took your wife's virginity (and any other men who have banged her) will always own a part of her soul.

I would totally agree with you and I've been thinking a lot about this.

But imagine if you were with a nice virgin girl and opened her diary book from her teenage years and found out that she had been dreaming and had fantasies about sleeping with anoter particular man. She wrote how she stalked him on social media, look through his photos and had a desperate need to just suck this guy's dick, swallow his juice, get mouthfucked and banged in the ass by him and become his property.

By accident, I just happened to listen to a podcast for younger women the other day where they discussed how they would choose Justin Bieber of their own boyfriends if they could. Most were honest. And I mean, how will you ever be able to compete with that. Most virgins will have had a teenage crush too.

Would that feel better than a chick who had slept with 3 beta dudes where there was no question whatsoever that you were the best man she's ever been with and ever had a crush on?

My point is that I start to realize it's a fantasy to believe a woman won't have fantasies and attraction for other men who own a little part of her soul. Most good examples of decent married women we see probably don't dream about their man anyway when they're fingering themselves but to the dick of a famous rich celeb.

The main problem Western men face in the 21st century is that the past three generations of women have been utterly and irrevocably corrupted by the MSM and in particular by social media.

Repudiation of this obvious fact does not relieve us of its consequence, which is that securing a traditional long term relationship and creating a healthy family has become near to impossible.

This cannot be fixed by incremental social changes. It's a simple question of supply and demand as the primary social needs of women are effectively beyond our control and out of our reach now. What needs to happen is a complete evisceration of the system that has produced the current state of affairs.

 

[Garuda]

Face it fellas, you aren't getting a true young virgin anywhere in the first world unless you yourself are 15-19 because that's the only age group legit virgins naturally fuck with.

Amish men are lucky even if their wives turn out to be their third cousins.

Note the location of the Instagram posts is Vancouver, BC. The man could have reduced the risks by looking for women a province or two east.

 

[Roosh]

What's interesting is the body language of the daughter. She is facing away from the mother. She knows mommy destroyed the family.

In spite of this case, I rather settle down with a virgin than a girl who has been with men. A possible ideal is a girl who made a couple "mistakes" and realized she does not want the promiscuous lifestyle. At some point, a girl has to DECIDE to be a good woman. She must consciously resist the cock carousel.

Roosh, seruously?

I would totally understand if you said you wanted a virgin, but that you were willing to settle for a woman who has been with a few men because virgins are simply so hard to find in this day and age.

But are you saying that you believe a girl who has been with a few men is actually preferable to a virgin (because a virgin "won't know what she's missing" and will therefore be sexually curious about other men, whereas a girl who has already been with a few men will be less likely to cheat because she "already had her fun," "is ready to settle down," and "knows what she wants (i.e. monogamy")?

Calm down. You missed the point I was making because you're too stuck in your own head about the necessity of finding a virgin.

I was stating that finding a girl with few notches (less than 5) and who actively resists the promiscuous lifestyle is better than a virgin who hasn't yet been tempted and will likely end up like the girl in the original post who destroys your family. The ideal is to find a virgin who has been tempted and resisted. After that is a girl with few notches who succumbed to some temptation but then resisted. Finding a virgin out of luck or circumstance (i.e. one who hasn't yet been tempted) is like dealing with a black box. You have no idea what you will get when she is tempted with men, attention, options, etc.

 

[asdfk]

^this

Girls who married their first are often easy targets..

 

[Rob Banks]

I think the obsession with virgins is a protective measure so that we can continue to hold on to the idea that there is a perfect, unspoiled girl out there - or there should be but this degenerate society prevents her from staying "pure". There are no perfect women out there, virgin or not. Women are not spoiled by losing their virginity. It's all in your head.

Serioulsy? "Obsession" with virgins?

So throughout almost all of human civilized history, it was unacceptable to most men to even consider marrying a non-virgin. This was the case in the stone ages, in Biblical times, in the middle ages, in Victorian England, etc.

I guess the men in all those ancient and medieval societies were just too corrupted by "patriarchy" and too "obsessed" with virginity to see the "truth" (i.e. that virginity isn't really important and men shouldn't be judgmental of a woman's promiscuity).

Just because a man wants a virgin doesn't mean he has to worship her and/or believe she is "perfect." And just because a man wants to start a family but recognizes that no woman is perfect doesn't mean he has to be okay with committing to a used woman.

Of course no woman is "perfect." No man is "perfect" either. There are still significant (biologically-driven) reasons why men have pretty much always preferred to marry virgins ever since the beginning of time.