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<blockquote data-quote="Days of Broken Arrows" data-source="post: 1200538" data-attributes="member: 4258">RE: Man shoots up newspaper for reporting on case involving his &quot;harassment&quot;...Sorry, but I don't agree with this or what BlueMark said when it comes to Elliott Rodger. All the info you guys are putting out is correct, but it leaves out one important thing: Some people are just weird as hell, and no amount of guidance or help can correct that.This matters most *at first* when it comes to men, because women will instantly turn off when approached by someone &quot;creepy.&quot; And if you think height or looks will change that, try getting a male model to go up to a stranger and say something &quot;off.&quot; Women will call security, no matter how &quot;hot&quot; the guy.For men, this situation is different. Men will put up with creepy and strange so long as the girl is hot. Hell, some men (ahem) have even been known to prefer odd-but-attractive women.But men pay the toll later on, when these insane women do (surprise!) insane things inside of marriage, and the guys get taken to the cleaners when they're hit with a divorce suit. But all that said, I've known men who are just not right for one reason or another and put women off. Elliott Rodger and the Annapolis shooter seem like those sorts of guys. While some PUA lessons generally help average guys, my guess is that these are not average guys who happen to be awkward or shy. These are emotionally and mentally disturbed men, and reading Mystery and Neil Strauss won't change a thing. We need to learn to draw the line when it comes to some men (or people in general) who have deeper, more serious issues that go beyond what we all deal with. You can't cure diabetes with a book; you also can't cure mental illness (no matter how slight) with a few PUA lessons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Days of Broken Arrows, post: 1200538, member: 4258"] [b]RE: Man shoots up newspaper for reporting on case involving his "harassment"...[/b] Sorry, but I don't agree with this or what BlueMark said when it comes to Elliott Rodger. All the info you guys are putting out is correct, but it leaves out one important thing: Some people are just weird as hell, and no amount of guidance or help can correct that. This matters most *at first* when it comes to men, because women will instantly turn off when approached by someone "creepy." And if you think height or looks will change that, try getting a male model to go up to a stranger and say something "off." Women will call security, no matter how "hot" the guy. For men, this situation is different. Men will put up with creepy and strange so long as the girl is hot. Hell, some men (ahem) have even been known to prefer odd-but-attractive women. But men pay the toll later on, when these insane women do (surprise!) insane things inside of marriage, and the guys get taken to the cleaners when they're hit with a divorce suit. But all that said, I've known men who are just not right for one reason or another and put women off. Elliott Rodger and the Annapolis shooter seem like those sorts of guys. While some PUA lessons generally help average guys, my guess is that these are not average guys who happen to be awkward or shy. These are emotionally and mentally disturbed men, and reading Mystery and Neil Strauss won't change a thing. We need to learn to draw the line when it comes to some men (or people in general) who have deeper, more serious issues that go beyond what we all deal with. You can't cure diabetes with a book; you also can't cure mental illness (no matter how slight) with a few PUA lessons. [/QUOTE]

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