Mandatory vaccination policies

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Has anyone seen any reprisal of this Gorsuch trumps Sotomayor NYC teacher mandate case recently? I saw an article on WSJ or Breitbart a while back that said that after Justice Sotomayor declined their emergency appeal, the case was brought back by Justice Gorsuch for re-evaluation ... the idea being that he convinced other colleagues of his to also hear it.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Article from last Friday (March 11)...

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot warns cops and city workers they'll be put on no-pay status if they don't get first dose of Covid vaccine by SUNDAY: About 2,800 police officers remain unvaccinated​

  • The city and the police union have been locked in a dispute over the mandate
  • Last week, an arbitrator dealt a final blow to the police union when it refused to reconsider its claims and lifted a pause on the mandate
  • The union argued that the rules violate its collective bargaining agreement
  • Officers had until March 13 to get their first shot and April 13 for their second one
  • About 2,800 police officers and 300 firefighters haven't gotten a COVID shot
  • As of December, 6,621 officers had applied for religious exemptions, but only 1.5 percent of them were granted
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
Article from last Friday (March 11)...

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot warns cops and city workers they'll be put on no-pay status if they don't get first dose of Covid vaccine by SUNDAY: About 2,800 police officers remain unvaccinated​


This won't help with the shortage. Lightfoot likely believes the city will be safer with fewer cops. I am sure she has private security to keep her safe.

 

Crazy88

Robin
Other Christian
This won't help with the shortage. Lightfoot likely believes the city will be safer with fewer cops. I am sure she has private security to keep her safe.

I can’t believe this nonsense is still going on in some places while mandates and passports are being eliminated elsewhere, including some very blue districts.

The cops in Chicago simply need to stay together on this and don’t give an inch. Mayor Bettlejuice will cave in because the situation there is bad enough as it is. The con is over, at least until they give us the next crisis at some point this year (Ukraine may be the cover for it).
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I can’t believe this nonsense is still going on in some places while mandates and passports are being eliminated elsewhere, including some very blue districts.

The cops in Chicago simply need to stay together on this and don’t give an inch. Mayor Bettlejuice will cave in because the situation there is bad enough as it is. The con is over, at least until they give us the next crisis at some point this year (Ukraine may be the cover for it).
Frankly I don't know how anyone stayed in Chicago after the events of the St. Floyd antifa protesting....
 

Sisyphus

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Article from last Friday (March 11)...

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot warns cops and city workers they'll be put on no-pay status if they don't get first dose of Covid vaccine by SUNDAY: About 2,800 police officers remain unvaccinated​



This is the problem I have with people joyfully declaring this all to be over and wanting to pivot on to the next shiny distraction. It's not over for these people who are facing the choice of losing their livelihood or submitting to a medical treatment which we now know for certain to be dangerous and deadly. The war seems to be lost, yet the manipulators continue to cruelly oppress and persecute victims out of spite or some unknown motivation.

And what about all the people who submitted to it already under false pretenses? Where is the justice for them? This will never be "over" for them because they will carry the poison inside them for the rest of their lives. They have to live with the knowledge that it can cut them down and take them from their loved ones at any moment.

And what about the irreparable harm to relationships with employers, friends, and family members for those who refused the poison injection? How will they be compensated for the damage done to their personal networks and the detrimental isolation forced on them?
 

homersheineken

Pelican
Protestant
This won't help with the shortage. Lightfoot likely believes the city will be safer with fewer cops. I am sure she has private security to keep her safe.

She may have private security...

But when protestors came within a block of her house, the CPD helped make sure they didn't get any closer. They had a great chance then to make their stand and express their leverage through her security. They backed down. I"m guessing they will again.
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
She may have private security...

But when protestors came within a block of her house, the CPD helped make sure they didn't get any closer. They had a great chance then to make their stand and express their leverage through her security. They backed down. I"m guessing they will again.
If they are police officers in Chicago, most are likely hardcore BLM, vaccine supporting leftists that love Lightfoot. Most normal people have left Chicago long ago, especially those that have potential to make the same or more money elsewhere. Experienced police officers are in demand in many cities and towns that are less extreme than Chicago (which is likely 99% of cities and towns).
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
It's more about mercenary "sensibilities" in Chicago, rather than hardcore BLM nonsense, to be honest. They want to get paid, there aren't that many good jobs out there (especially for average guys), and they like the fraternity - until they don't. What apparently is going on through the messaging channel is that they are trying to starve out the cops and have them sign into this portal so that they'll get the jab. But some aldermen are finally bringing up how ridiculous it is and that they should be able to use natural immunity as a substitute.

Until some idiot leader gets hurt, or the SCOTUS rules for religious exemptions, they'll keep trying to prolong it since they plan on bringing it back also in some fashion this fall. I hope I'm wrong.
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
It's more about mercenary "sensibilities" in Chicago, rather than hardcore BLM nonsense, to be honest. They want to get paid, there aren't that many good jobs out there (especially for average guys), and they like the fraternity - until they don't. What apparently is going on through the messaging channel is that they are trying to starve out the cops and have them sign into this portal so that they'll get the jab. But some aldermen are finally bringing up how ridiculous it is and that they should be able to use natural immunity as a substitute.

Until some idiot leader gets hurt, or the SCOTUS rules for religious exemptions, they'll keep trying to prolong it since they plan on bringing it back also in some fashion this fall. I hope I'm wrong.
There are a lot of police officer jobs as long as they are willing to relocate and aren't picky about where they live. Also, experienced police officers can also find jobs as security guards (although the benefits won't be as good).

The fraternity part makes sense and maybe they feel a sense of duty to their fellow cops.

One issue is the idea of risking your life to protect a city where the majority of people have bad values and don't deserve protection. If someone voted for Mayor Lightfoot, that person likely has bad values unless Lightfoot hid her ideas well or openly lied to the people before being elected (as Obama did in 2008). The forced vaccines are just another example where the city has turned against the police (and other workers forced to get vaccines).
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
One issue is the idea of risking your life to protect a city where the majority of people have bad values and don't deserve protection. If someone voted for Mayor Lightfoot, that person likely has bad values unless Lightfoot hid her ideas well or openly lied to the people before being elected (as Obama did in 2008). The forced vaccines are just another example where the city has turned against the police (and other workers forced to get vaccines).
I agree with you but they largely are establishment invested or so recency biased (what a job, and pension!) so they believe the city living thing is better than thinking about how shitty the city is, and will be, very soon. Of course, they will learn the hard way and I think many will be considering leaving sooner than later, to be honest.
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
I agree with you but they largely are establishment invested or so recency biased (what a job, and pension!) so they believe the city living thing is better than thinking about how shitty the city is, and will be, very soon. Of course, they will learn the hard way and I think many will be considering leaving sooner than later, to be honest.
I forgot about the pension. I guess now it makes sense that so many stay.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member

Military Doctor Testifies in Court That a Superior Ordered Her Not to Discuss Data Showing Massive Spikes in Illness After Vaccine Mandate​

A military medical officer testified in court last week that she was ordered by a superior not to discuss her findings regarding the DoD’s Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED) during the hearing. DMED provides web-based access to active military personnel and medical event data.

On March 10, Liberty Counsel, the law firm representing thirty members of the military who are fighting the military vaccine mandate, returned to federal court to defend the preliminary injunction Judge Steven Merryday granted two military plaintiffs that allowed them to skirt the military vaccine mandate. The Department of Defense (DoD) asked the judge to set aside the injunction while the case was on appeal.

Judge Merryday is a United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida.

During the all-day hearing, Liberty Counsel presented compelling testimony from the Navy Commander of a surface warship and three military flight surgeons, Lt. Col. Peter Chambers, Lt. Col. Teresa Long and Col. (Ret.) Stewart Tankersley, M.D. In contrast, the DOD declined to present witnesses.

Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel Mat Staver said in an interview with the Blaze’s Daniel Horowitz on Monday that there have been three hearings now in this case, and the DoD has not yet offered a single witness. Instead of witnesses, the government “sends these declarations,” Staver explained. He said the judge has urged them to bring live witnesses to court so they can be cross examined, but they just refuse to do it. “So they send these declarations that some JAG attorney writes, and somebody in the military signs off on them.”

Staver said that the information the DoD has been presenting in court is “outdated, wrong, and would really be subject to dismantling under cross examination.” He added that cross examinations of his witnesses have only made their case stronger. “So they really don’t have anything to cross examine our witnesses with,” he said.

Staver told Horowitz that Judge Merryday has chastised the DoD lawyers during the hearings, telling them they have “a frail case,” and are “acting as though they are above the law.”

Dr. Theresa Long, a flight surgeon who holds a master’s degree in Public Health and is specially trained in the DMED, gave emotional testimony on March 10.

She and two other flight surgeons reviewed DMED last year and made some stunning discoveries about the high incidence of apparent vaccine injuries among members of the military.

According to the whistleblowers, certain disorders spiked after the vaccine mandate went into effect, including miscarriages and cancers, and neurological problems which increased by 1000 percent.

Dr. Long testified that she was contacted by high level officer the night before the hearing, and told not to discuss her findings regarding the explosive military medical data in court. The whistleblower reportedly said she felt threatened after she tried to get her superiors to address the findings, “fearing for her life and for the safety of her children.”

Since the whistleblowers came forward with the DMED data, the DoD has thrown cold water on their conclusions, saying the increase in vaccine injuries was caused by a “glitch in the database.”

Politifact contacted Peter Graves, spokesperson for the Defense Health Agency’s Armed Forces Surveillance Division, who said the data for 2021 is correct, but for some reason, the data for the five years prior was inaccurate. Graves told PolitiFact by email that the division reviewed data in the DMED “and found that the data was incorrect for the years 2016-2020.”

In other words, for five straight years, the data was seriously corrupted and none of the DoD’s data analysts figured this out, and then it fixed itself on its own in 2021. The DoD has since put out new numbers showing more illnesses among the troops for the years prior to 2021.

Staver asked Long a question about the DMED data during the hearing, and she answered: “I have been ordered not to answer that question.”

Judge Merryday reportedly asked Long: “Ordered by who?,” and the doctor explained what happened the night before the hearing.

Staver then asked Long if the information the military ordered her to withhold was relevant and helpful for the court and the public to know. She said, “yes,” and Staver asked her why.

Long reportedly paused and choked back tears as she told the judge: “I have so many soldiers being destroyed by this vaccine. Not a single member of my senior command has discussed my concerns with me … I have nothing to gain and everything to lose by talking about it. I’m OK with that because I am watching people get absolutely destroyed.”

Dr. Long also testified that the data shows that deaths of military members from the vaccines exceed deaths from COVID itself.

Staver later told Horowitz that the DoD’s order for her not to discuss DMED amounted to witness tampering, especially since Long has whistleblower protections.

“They not only violated the Whistleblower Act, they potentially intimidated a witness and tried to change that witness’ testimony,” he said during the Conservative Review podcast on Monday.

The doctor said she is constantly contacted by people who have been injured by the genetic vaccines, and that many of those injured are pilots, who are expected to meet high fitness standards. Long told Staver that in just one afternoon she heard from four pilots who had just gotten MRIs back showing that they had myocarditis.

Morale is tanking in the military, she testified, with soldiers are in despair over the pressure to get the vaccine, and some are even having suicidal thoughts.

Long said she was aware of at least two people who have committed suicide over the pressure, and the threat of punishment for refusal.

She said the current regime’s policies are undermining “good order and discipline.”

In addition to Dr. Long, an unnamed Navy commander testified about his commander’s attempts to punish him for refusing the experimental injections.

On February 2, Judge Merryday issued a temporary restraining order blocking the Navy from punishing the Commander because of his vaccination status. Judge Merryday ruled the Navy violated the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

When the court ordered the Commodore to comply with the law, he filed an affidavit saying he had “lost confidence” in the Commander because the Commander had not taken the COVID shots.

The judge then entered a preliminary injunction, and the DOD and the Navy filed a motion asking the court to set aside his injunction, arguing that due to their “lost confidence” in the commander, his ship could not deploy.

However, at the time the ship was allegedly unable to be deployed, the commander was actually far out to sea testing the ship and training the crew.

While many Commanders fail to complete these operations timely, the Commander completed the mission early and the ship deemed “safe and ready.”

In a dramatic moment, the Commander said he should not have to be there in court defending religious freedom. “Generals and admirals should be here saying what I am saying today to uphold religious freedom. Our religious freedoms are being attacked.”


Also testifying last week was Dr. Pete Chambers, a Purple Heart recipient who is in the Texas National Guard defending the southern border where 10,000-20,000 illegal immigrants are flooding through every week. “My job is to keep our soldiers safe,” Chambers said.

Chambers was hoping to retire from the military in 2023 after nearly 40 years of service, but his adverse reaction to the Moderna shot derailed his plans.

Trusting the military that the shots are “safe and effective,” and not knowing at the time that aborted fetal cells were used in the testing and/or development, he took the shot. He now suffers from demyelination, a condition affecting the central nervous system caused by the injection.

After his Moderna injury, Dr. Chambers met Lt. Col. Long. They reviewed the DOD’s Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED), the military equivalent to the federal government’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), where he discovered other military members also developed a demyelination disease after the COVID shots.


Chambers, a military flight surgeon and one of only six Green Beret surgeons, was told that his job was to get soldiers to vaccinated. His superiors told him that religious exemptions would be automatically denied. “Soldiers will try. Soldiers will fail,” this commanders said.

He pointed out that shots are not effective in preventing infection, and estimated that about 75-80% of soldiers getting infected are “double vaxxed” compared to only about 15% of soldiers who are not vaccinated.

Like Long, Chambers also testified that many soldiers are being injured by the COVID shots, and that “this is not normal.”

Dr. Stewart Tankersley, a flight surgeon who retired in September 2021 at the rank of Colonel, testified that the injections are neither safe nor effective.

Tankersley said he has personally treated over 200 COVID patients with no fatalities, and the group of doctors with whom he is associated has treated over 18,000 COVID patients with deaths only in the single digits.

“I’ve never seen anything like this in the military or civilian world, the lack of dialogue, the suppression of scientific dialogue.” Tankersley said on the stand.

Dr. Tankersley explained one of several reasons there are so many injuries from the COVID shots. The mRNA vaccines require a Lipid Nanoparticle (LNP) as a delivery mechanism because the RNA quickly degrades without being encased in the LNP. The combination bypasses the natural immune system and creates inflammation that can inhibit the body’s innate immunity.

Dr. Tankersley testified that the shots are neither safe nor effective. He also testified that there are safe and effective treatments for COVID, including nasal rinsing and ivermectin.


Liberty Counsel argued that the DOD’s position that the only one way to combat COVID and ensure military readiness is to force the injections and kick out the unvaccinated is “untenable,” and that the mandate is undermining military readiness and harming morale.

Staver said: “I am honored to serve the brave men and women of the military. I am dismayed by the abuse and propaganda forced upon them from the White House and the Department of Defense. The truth will prevail, and freedom will win.”
 

Kiwi

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid...-4-jacinda-ardern/C6P6WKNMH45S2EB54YBCW76OHI/

Announced today - No more vaccine mandates (apart from a few sectors) and vaccine passport scrapped here in NZ.

Good news for teachers and police who can get their job back, if they indeed wanted to go back.
Also good news for all of us that held the line and didn't get any jab, didn't scan in anywhere, or didn't buckle under mandate pressure at work. I'm sure there's a lot of people here feeling like complete suckers for getting the jab, or 3.

The fact masks are still required goes to show clown world still alive and well. I'm not fully convinced this is the end of the passport. Winter will be an interesting time.
 

William Faulkner

Woodpecker
Orthodox
California has about half a dozen different bills floating around which all pertain to mandatory death jabs. I'm pretty sure they are going to make it a requirement for children to attend school - be it public or private. While so many have moved on from the Covaids color revolution - a handful of states continue with this madness. They are installing the framework and infrastructure as they plan for the next plandemic in which they will snatch away any remaining freedoms people have in the far left states when it comes to bodily autonomy. Unless of course you want to have an abortion. My body by choice apparently still acceptable in that case.
 
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