Mandatory vaccination policies

Biscuits_Gravy

Woodpecker
Catholic
The funny thing is, that deadline has been looming for about 9 months now. I just got out of the Air Guard in the Spring, that deadline was in December and still had a huge number of refusals/discharges and an even larger number stuck in religious /medical exemption limbo that gets kicked down the road. Any military leader worth their salt could’ve looked at their numbers and said we have a problem, but it’s either cowardice or downright stupidity to not say anything. After relying the on Army Guard so much over the last 2 years to exercise their clown agenda, I do wonder what the angle/benefit is of further purging the Army? Is it to reduce the size of state militias or what?
 

Biscuits_Gravy

Woodpecker
Catholic
One of the biggest disappointments for me over the past two years is that the members of the US military didn't try harder to resist the mandate. If only 20% of active duty members had flat-out refused, that would have been enough to torpedo it.
Agreed. As I may have stated, you basically had three groups along a spectrum. 1) Covid Crazies who couldn’t wait to get Vaxxed 2) middle of the roaders some more inclined to get the vax and some less, 3) and outright refuseniks with some vying for exemptions. I agree though, I will say that I don’t think the numbers that have been shared have been truthful I still think across all the branches there’s been about 5-10% refusal. I might be wrong but also there’s things like vax card scandals that you won’t hear about from the military or the news. I know for a fact that this has happened in some units.
 

president

Ostrich
Protestant
Gold Member
One explanation for why they're purging the military branches is because they don't need soldiers trained for combat against other militaries, but simple machine gun-toting foot soldiers via the various branches of gov't that are being armed to the teeth as of late.

GFG is pumping out about a video a day outlining this situation:

 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
Are there any updates on this mandate stuff from Barnes or Frei? I'm curious if anyone on here is a employment lawyer either who could guess what's going to shake out here, or how long it might take (political winds) for the courts to lay down some blows to the companies or institutions that mandated these things illegally.
 

chance vought

Kingfisher
Protestant
The funny thing is, that deadline has been looming for about 9 months now. I just got out of the Air Guard in the Spring, that deadline was in December and still had a huge number of refusals/discharges and an even larger number stuck in religious /medical exemption limbo that gets kicked down the road. Any military leader worth their salt could’ve looked at their numbers and said we have a problem, but it’s either cowardice or downright stupidity to not say anything. After relying the on Army Guard so much over the last 2 years to exercise their clown agenda, I do wonder what the angle/benefit is of further purging the Army? Is it to reduce the size of state militias or what?
It is to get rid of any dissent against the legitimacy of the regime... Obama started with General officers around 2013...the less "compliant" who would uphold the constitution when needed most were quietly forced to resign, or given assignments that would force them to resign before being promoted.

IMHO, This is another purge of the officer corps to get rid of any chance that there will be resistance to unconstitutional orders, which will be coming soon it appears.
 

Enoch

Ostrich
It is to get rid of any dissent against the legitimacy of the regime... Obama started with General officers around 2013...the less "compliant" who would uphold the constitution when needed most were quietly forced to resign, or given assignments that would force them to resign before being promoted.

IMHO, This is another purge of the officer corps to get rid of any chance that there will be resistance to unconstitutional orders, which will be coming soon it appears.
Indeed. The reason for the 2nd amendment is manifesting, which is why the feds are staging all these shootings.
 

EndlessGravity

 
Banned
Protestant


So I was recently sought out by two MBA programs from major universities (My guess is they do this to anyone with entrepreneurial experience on LinkedIn). They had full online degrees but you had to go in person once to do some sort of orientation. Everything sounded fine and I was a good candidate (apparently). However, both required vaccination, so I told them they could get bent. I'd guess every university is like this now.
 

Ozolv

Chicken
Orthodox Inquirer

They aren't forced to get it. For everyone who still believes you can take these people to court later pay attention to the words and terminology being used. This sort of thing is why it won't be taken seriously and it will be thrown out. Too many people make false claims. I have empathy for those who fell for the scam, I really do, but there is nothing but sabotage behind throwing serious allegations out willy nilly when it isn't true to begin with. Those who took it to not lose their children or their medicines they couldn't go without or to not die of the cold may have a reason to claim they were forced. Taking it to go to school isn't being forced.
 

Sisyphus

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Does anyone know if any EEOC complaints have been completed and a "right to sue" letter has been given after an investigation into discrimination on religious or medical (exemption) grounds? Are there any lawyers on the board? I'm curious what they might have to say and what they foresee in this situation, for now.

This website tracks numbers of EEOC cases (along with various other lawsuits related to all things killer virus). https://www.fisherphillips.com/inno...nt-litigation-tracker-and-insights/index.html

Details aren't provided about the individual cases, but it at least gives us some sense of the climate. As plaintiffs begin to win (which is already occurring), it's certain that more cases will be filed, some of which will probably be class action. Unfortunately the "legal insights" section doesn't appear to gave been updated since February.
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
They aren't forced to get it. For everyone who still believes you can take these people to court later pay attention to the words and terminology being used. This sort of thing is why it won't be taken seriously and it will be thrown out. Too many people make false claims. I have empathy for those who fell for the scam, I really do, but there is nothing but sabotage behind throwing serious allegations out willy nilly when it isn't true to begin with. Those who took it to not lose their children or their medicines they couldn't go without or to not die of the cold may have a reason to claim they were forced. Taking it to go to school isn't being forced.

In a just society, it would be considered coercion. Right to a fair educational access is supposedly a democratic right, but obviously rights don't mean anything anymore.
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
I have scene that despite the rollout of the vax for little kids and the mass propaganda campaign behind hit, only 2% of 6 month-5 yr olds have gotten the jab.

This might be one of the lines in the sand the average parent draws.

And my guess is many parents who got the jab and don't feel right afterwards, won't put their children thru the same.

This would lead to an already increasing exodus from the public school system.
 

DRIIIVER

Robin
Orthodox Catechumen
Not sure if y’all are aware but there was a temporary restraining order (TRO) issued by a court in Ohio in regards to the Department of the Air Force (DAF). It began July 14th, a response was made by the Defendant (DAF) on the 21st, and now today (25 JULY) there should be an order issued by the Judge either implementing a class action lawsuit and injunction, or dropping the class action altogether for this specific court.

The biggest argument in the DAF response was that Novavax is now “approved” which does not utilize aborted infant cells in production or mRNA technology.
The FDA granted emergency use authorization to the Novavax vaccine, which uses traditional vaccine technology. FDA, “No human fetal- derived cell lines or tissue, including HEK293 cells, are used in the development, manufacture or production of the Novavax COVID-19 vaccine candidate.”
Those class members whose religious objections were based on mRNA technology or the use of fetal-derived cell lines are no longer substantially burdened by the COVID-19 vaccine requirement because this option is now available.
And then of course the old tried and true trope of the military industrial complex…
Expanding the injunction to cover thousands of individuals will also “severely undermine military readiness and cause irreparable harm to military operations,” it “would significantly increase risk to accomplishing the Air Force mission while causing substantial and lasting harm to military order and discipline.”
Attached are both the TRO and DAF response to the TRO for some light reading.
 

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  • TRO ISSUED 14 JUL 22-compressed 2.pdf
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  • AF Response to TRO 21 JUL 22.pdf
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muscacav

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
The biggest argument in the DAF response was that Novavax is now “approved” which does not utilize aborted infant cells in production or mRNA technology.
They have been pushing this new Novavax injection for some months now. Something tells me that illustrious people such as Novak Djokovic will take this one to make the uneasy less resistant to receiving the injection.
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
They have been pushing this new Novavax injection for some months now. Something tells me that illustrious people such as Novak Djokovic will take this one to make the uneasy less resistant to receiving the injection.
The thing is that most have had it and you can easily make an argument (and there is scientific basis for this, large data sets) that natural immunity is good and superior to the rest.
 

Pointy Elbows

Pelican
Orthodox
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We called this a long time ago. Vaxx victims can't sue big Pharma, because muh immunity. Suing the gov't? Good luck. Most you'll get is some gov't money bucket that spends more for "administration" than payout to victims.

Now, then. Suing your employer. Well that's a legit option. Your employer "made" you take it. He didn't provide full "informed consent." Did he even offer a "Safety Data Sheet" or some such notice as to potential side effects?
 
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