Marijuana

gang said:
Cycling allows you to reap the benefits of both states, high and sober, because the benefits of each diminish with time but you can reboot each state by taking a break from it. If you really can't fathom the idea of taking a break when you are actively using weed then we are different. For me its easy because I literally get tired of smoking and being high and just want some days, weeks, or months sober. I've even gone years sober on multiple breaks. But then it happens again... I get tired of being sober and I am called back to the introspective thinking and alternate perspectives that I am able to achieve while using weed. And the cycle continues like this. As a real example my most recent break was from June to November. When I returned to smoking in November I was really reflecting on my age and how quickly time was passing, and realized I should be living, enjoying and appreciating each day more than I have been being on "sober auto-pilot" mode never really thinking about time at all. This realization has stuck with me even though I am again on a small break from weed, so far like 1 week but I'll probably get a small bag another week or two from now. I only buy small amounts at a time so that when its finished I can clearly assess whether or not I want more, without it being right in front of me.
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I just think your logic is all over the place. You say you dislike "sober auto-pilot" mode, why take breaks then? Because you realise that taking mind altering substances constantly is a bad thing, or what? It just sounds all over the place. Like you realise that its not good to be high all the time, hence why you take breaks, but you also don't like being sober. Why not commit to one or the other?

This is why I speak about it being a cope. You know that it is bad to be stoned constantly forever, hence why you take breaks from it, to tell yourself you are in control. But you also justify yourself by saying that your drug habit gets you out of auto-pilot mode, it liberates you from "societal programming" (although you won't give any examples of what you mean), so basically you're saying you love being high and don't like being sober. In other words you are enslaved to being high on marijuana, you aren't in control no matter how many breaks you take. It just sounds really muddled and a bit insane, and it's probably because you spend a lot of your time ingesting mind altering drugs. Listen to the part of you that knows its sensible to take breaks, and make your next break forever.
 
gang said:
I've been smoking on and off for 22 years going off of it many multiple times (sometimes cycling on and off by weeks or months) and the only "detox" or withdrawal symptom I can ever recall having is feeling slightly more stimulated for a week after stopping like I drank a couple cups of coffee, but it never affected my sleep. These people who experience heavier detox symptoms must be smoking ALOT of strong weed.
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Living in a pot legal state where you can get top shelf grade herb at accessable prices. Yuuup. It's pretty powerful. I used to smoke blunts daily, sometimes 2. This was Ina state where it was illegal. I couldn't do that same with Cali weed. Pot is the only drug I can't do moderately. I look forward to retirement when I can blaze myself silly and not care.
NickK said:
Does that include cocaine?
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I've done cocaine for fun a few times in my more degenerate days. Great but over rated drug. Too expensive. Cravings stink. Effects are over too quick. Fun for a night of sinful clubbing and that's about the extent of it. Wouldn't do again.
 
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The Beast1 said:
I look forward to retirement when I can blaze myself silly and not care.
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You should rather look forward to spending an eternity in heaven and stay sober, brother.

I smoked weed for several years compulsively since I was 16. Last year after I started reading the Bible and praying I suddenly started getting extremely anxious whenever I smoked. I realized how as a father and a husband I was setting a bad example for everyone. One day I woke up and just threw all of my stuff away. I felt like Jesus was telling me to do it. Haven't touched the stuff since. I consider it a minor miracle.

Still drink more alcohol than I should probably, still not sure where I stand on that.
 
gent said:
You should rather look forward to spending an eternity in heaven and stay sober, brother.

I smoked weed for several years compulsively since I was 16. Last year after I started reading the Bible and praying I suddenly started getting extremely anxious whenever I smoked. I realized how as a father and a husband I was setting a bad example for everyone. One day I woke up and just threw all of my stuff away. I felt like Jesus was telling me to do it. Haven't touched the stuff since. I consider it a minor miracle.

Still drink more alcohol than I should probably, still not sure where I stand on that.
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I respected your post up until the last sentence. You've got to be kidding me.
 
gent said:
Still drink more alcohol than I should probably, still not sure where I stand on that.
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Do you drink as a way to compensate for the lack of weed or just out of habit? Because that does happen to some people. For instance, they stop drinking and find themselves smoking cigarettes a lot more than usual to compensate. Try to cut down on it gradually or quit cold-turkey for a couple of days and see how it goes.
 
Lawrence87 said:
I was addicted to marijuana from about 16 years old until my early thirties.

The main thing that helped me to quit was realizing not only was I incapable of controlling my addiction, heavy marijuana use was a factor in all of my mess ups in life. For me it just led me to drift through life in a daze with my ability to act and react severely hampered.

I'm still dealing with the residual laziness. It's like I never really learned how to act as an adult aside from being high and lazing around.

I had different excuses for smoking weed at different times in my long career. I'd often tell myself it was harmless. This is not true, weed is insidiously destructive. It's not like heroin where your life will overtly fall apart, but there will be moments where you're too high to make the right decision, or you fail to make a decision at all. There will be hours and hours of life wasted, just being high and playing video games or whatever. It just makes you a passive loser and if you don't think that has a detrimental affect then that just means you're not paying attention.

Another thing I'd tell myself is that it was some kind of sacrament. This was before I became Christian mind you. I'd feel that the state of mind weed put me in was closer to God or something. The reality is that God would not make it so easy that a completely unrepentant sinner could connect with Him just by smoking a bowl. It was just a deluded way to justify the fact that I could not face life without being high all the time.

Ultimately my propensity for getting stoned has held me back a lot. I don't blame weed itself, but my decision to use it a lot was one of the worst things I ever did. And I have to live with that. Forgive the disordered nature of this post, just wanted to blurt my thoughts out and I haven't had anywhere near enough coffee yet.
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I have a very similar story. I smoked from the age of 15 through to my mid thirties non stop all day, everyday. Job interviews, important engagements. I was high through all of it. I finally just got sick of it. I am disgusted by the time I wasted. It ruined my life. I had no problem quitting when I decided to. I am much happier now. My thoughts are clear and focused. I only wish I never started, or at least quit earlier. But the past is the past. God Bless.
 
Really inspiring to see the experiences of the guys who have given it up and are doing better for it. Keep up the good work my brothers.

I am not having a dig, because I really do feel for anyone who is stuck in the trap, but I can’t believe that anyone would really try to rationalise their use of this drug. This is a well known facet of addictive behaviour.

I am only 22 and smoked from 16, and thinking of those years wasted sickens me. I have had a few spells lately of giving it up but always ended up back on it. Currently on day 3, I was awake for the first 40 hours of giving it up. I think that gang (I think it was gang) had a point, that very rarely is weed the crux of the problem. I was definitely using it to self-medicate for something that borders on anxiety. I can’t switch my mind off when I’m sober, which is good when I want to read and contemplate, but awful for any other time.

Aside from any human argument, we should also look at it from a Christian perspective. I’m no expert but I do know that we are not on this earth for an easy ride, we are meant to struggle to live more like Christ.

If anyone ever tries to promote weed or any drug, think of this.

2 Peter 2:19 tells us: “They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity- for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.”
 
The Beast1 said:
Thanks to rampant inflation doubling my monthly expenditures, I have had to give up my favorite inebriant: marijuana.
I've been smoking marijuana consistently for several years since 2007 with maybe a month break here and there (that's being generous).
I preferred it over alcohol, which I had long given up as a horrible curse which ages and destroys the body. I always wondered how alcoholics came to be, because anytime I would drink, the hangover would last multiple days. Hair of the dog just made it worse.

Any who, now that inflation has made me re-allocate my budget and eliminate the otherwise wonderful plant, I was going through the pangs of withdrawal.
For the curious, marijuana is insidious with its withdrawal pangs. It messes with your appetite, ability to sleep, and the cravings, man the cravings. I used to be a cigarette smoker in college, quitting that was easy compared to pot. I could put down cigs, power through the 3-4 days of nicotine anger, and be good to go.

Pot on the other hand, ugh. Much worse getting through days 2-4 is the worst.

I'm about week and a half in. Thankfully, this has been a much better detox experience for me. I recently discovered that Unisom Sleep Tablets (doxylamine version) utterly blows the withdrawal insomnia out of the water. I was able to have restorative sleep which has had significant knock on effects in regards to appetite and general mood. I have a pill cutter which I use to reduce the dosage down. Day 1 is always the easiest, I never have issues here. But by day 2, I took a full pill. Day 3 half a pill, 4, quarter, 5 quarter, and 6 none.

I wanted post this here so that others who struggle with marijuana addiction can have an easy escape with an OTC drug when they decide to go cold turkey (reddit's sub for this topic is pathetic and they only want you to suffer with zero added substances). I'm back to normal for the most part and the speed of this was astounding.
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Congratulations for fighting off that addiction. Stay strong.
 
For about 7 years I lived in block of flats in a small town down south. It was in a really great location next to countryside and woods. Kind of idyllic really. The big shame was it was full of weed smokers and wasters. There was one man there, an old hippy, who was in his 70s and was totally addicted to the strong weed they all smoked. When he had some you could kind of have a conversation with, when he had non you couldn't. He had a look of desperation and would be knocking on peoples doors to see if he could get a smoke.

At that time I hadn't smoked weed for years. I wasn't much of fan back then either. But I got a bad case of sciatica and bought a small bit of weed to alleviate the pain. I remember after smoking some I felt like I was in a trance and buffered from reality. On another occasion I got close to having a panic attack. For me it wasn't pleasant at all, so I gave it away after just a few smokes. I can well imagine that the people that enjoy smoking weed will love the metaverse and in the UK alone that runs into some millions.
 
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