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Marine Le Pen
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Enjoythedecline said:
I think ISIS is thinking different after Trump won, they may talk about how happy they are with Trump winning and use it as recruitment propaganda, but the reality is different, they know Russia Putin and USA Trump combined will be purging ISIS, many wannabe Jihadists will think twice about joining ISIS.
We are still months away from France election, and anything could happen, I was thinking something would happen during Bataclan massacre anniversary, but is too close to Trump winning election, is too risky for them to attack so soon.
lol Mikado, you could be right....
But then again, it was, "The end of Donald's campaign" last July.
Don't you ever learn. It's the current year. She will probably win with over 50%
But then again, it was, "The end of Donald's campaign" last July.
Don't you ever learn. It's the current year. She will probably win with over 50%
Dalaran1991
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True, this is a year where everything could happen, but the French is a difficult proposition. Many people who voted for Trump did not like him, but had enough of the left and immigrants etc. In France, those kinds of people would vote, but a white blank vote to "show their discontent".
That and many French right wingers have this deep "moral superiority". Whereas most American liberals virtue signal in order to overcompensate or to fill a void inside their worthless selves, many French believe deeply that race/religion has nothing to do with it and that they can do better than Le Pen. Dilusional if you ask me, but these are the kinds of people who say immigrants are bad, France should get out of EU, and still they wouldnt vote Le Pen. Sentiment-wise I think French feel the same shit as do Trump voters, but vote-wise it is very hard to predict.
There's a growing anti Europe sentiment going on however and this is the best card Le Pen has to play, but its harder in France. French people have been depending on their government for everything for much much longer than Americans. Everything is subsidized from healthcare to education, and most people think the government are good, or at least a necessary evil. It is much harder to fan an anti-establishment flame here.
We'll see how this plays out.
That and many French right wingers have this deep "moral superiority". Whereas most American liberals virtue signal in order to overcompensate or to fill a void inside their worthless selves, many French believe deeply that race/religion has nothing to do with it and that they can do better than Le Pen. Dilusional if you ask me, but these are the kinds of people who say immigrants are bad, France should get out of EU, and still they wouldnt vote Le Pen. Sentiment-wise I think French feel the same shit as do Trump voters, but vote-wise it is very hard to predict.
There's a growing anti Europe sentiment going on however and this is the best card Le Pen has to play, but its harder in France. French people have been depending on their government for everything for much much longer than Americans. Everything is subsidized from healthcare to education, and most people think the government are good, or at least a necessary evil. It is much harder to fan an anti-establishment flame here.
We'll see how this plays out.
Foolsgo1d
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Latinopan said:
ISIS In Mosul: The experienced and battle-hardened veterans of ISIS fled to Raqqa and elsewhere in Syria and to turkey leaving only the sheep ISIS to be slaughtered.
This opportunity for them to flee was given by Western & Turkish culpability in those two countries.
Russia and the US will never be side-by-side allies like NATO/US forces are but they can both do simultaneous campaigns. It'll be like sending dogs down a rabbit hole, forcing the rabbits out elsewhere which the other side will happily be camping out.
With Marine Le Pen and France we have one problem. How many alt-right members know fluent French and understand the French psyche enough to get her in?
Its easy to fight a meme war in English but French? If you start bombarding the French in English they will tell you to fuck off.
It depends who Le Pen get's in the final round against.
Who is the favorite?
If it's some young guy that doesn't bode well for her, but if it's like Sarkozy or some old guy, she has a chance.
From my experience with French people, her supporters are more "shy" than American Trump supporters.
They act P.C. in front of everybody and unless they really trust you, they won't admit to voting Le Pen.
Also, French value playing the social game best and so, I think many will straight up not admit they are going to vote for her.
Remember Front National got over 40% in the last elections (weren't Presidential elections, but still) and the migrants only keep annoying people.
We will see. I wouldn't count her out yet.
Who is the favorite?
If it's some young guy that doesn't bode well for her, but if it's like Sarkozy or some old guy, she has a chance.
From my experience with French people, her supporters are more "shy" than American Trump supporters.
They act P.C. in front of everybody and unless they really trust you, they won't admit to voting Le Pen.
Also, French value playing the social game best and so, I think many will straight up not admit they are going to vote for her.
Remember Front National got over 40% in the last elections (weren't Presidential elections, but still) and the migrants only keep annoying people.
We will see. I wouldn't count her out yet.
Far-right leader Marine Le Pen could WIN France's presidential elections due to the rise of populist politics and the success of Trump, admits country's prime minister
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-country-s-prime-minister.html#ixzz4QK5Xgo5W
New approach to globalism, now the impossible is becoming possible they are thinking a new way for globalism, sound like a new form of propaganda for globalism.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-country-s-prime-minister.html#ixzz4QK5Xgo5W
New approach to globalism, now the impossible is becoming possible they are thinking a new way for globalism, sound like a new form of propaganda for globalism.
A Simple Visitor
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I am loving the Bannon pick as chief consigliere to the Don... a fearless fighting former US Naval officer ushering in a new Trumpian Patriotic Economic Nationalist golden age for all of America... if you are a proud hard working American Patriot you are one of us!
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...use-exciting-1930s-greater-reagan-revolution/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...use-exciting-1930s-greater-reagan-revolution/
I'm not familiar with Europe's elections and polls. But this poll about France's political parties was tweeted out:
Libertas said:
#MEGA!
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budoslavic said:
In France presidential politics, there are two rounds of voting. The first round has all the contenders; assuming none got at least 50% of the vote, the 2nd round is the top two contenders only.
The problem is if the final two are "The Republicans" (the LR-EPP above, though Sarkozy was eliminated from contention) and Le Pen, all the socialists unite in lockstep to vote against her because she's such a mean bad person. This exact scenario happened in the 2015 French regional elections which had a similar "two round" voting system, Front National has a big showing in the first round, and the socialists literally pulled their candidates and implored their voters to vote for the Republicans. Absolutely disgusting.
The best case scenario would be if the Republican candidate (again, not Sarkozy since he's been eliminated from contention) finished 3rd place and the final 2 was Le Pen vs. either the Left Party or the Socialist party. Because while the Socialists are willing to go all-in on Front National from winning, I want to believe there is a good chunk of Republican voters that would go for Front National.
Considering the Left and Socialists add up to 28% in the cited poll, if one could sap support for the other and whoever lead the Republicans instead of Sarkozy hits a scandal or some negative media attention, maybe they can catch up to second place...
This new Economist cover is occult as fuck. Tarot cards
Either way look at the Wheel of Fortune election card. Why is Merkel getting hit by lightning on the way down and LePen has an upward trajectory towards the rising sun. Is that Wilders at the bottom? Look at the Tower one -- is that supposed to represent the fall of the West via some hybrid Catholic-Communist revolution? The door looks like Martin Luther's 95 theses (Protestantism)
Rothschild family just openly fucking with us!
Edit, not sure what thread this fits in. Basically each card could fit into one of the different threads in Politics! I'll leave it here since I find the 2017 European Election wheel of fortune card the most puzzling. What are they trying to say?
Either way look at the Wheel of Fortune election card. Why is Merkel getting hit by lightning on the way down and LePen has an upward trajectory towards the rising sun. Is that Wilders at the bottom? Look at the Tower one -- is that supposed to represent the fall of the West via some hybrid Catholic-Communist revolution? The door looks like Martin Luther's 95 theses (Protestantism)
Rothschild family just openly fucking with us!
Edit, not sure what thread this fits in. Basically each card could fit into one of the different threads in Politics! I'll leave it here since I find the 2017 European Election wheel of fortune card the most puzzling. What are they trying to say?
komatiite said:This new Economist cover is occult as fuck. Tarot cards
Either way look at the Wheel of Fortune election card. Why is Merkel getting hit by lightning on the way down and LePen has an upward trajectory towards the rising sun. Is that Wilders at the bottom? Look at the Tower one -- is that supposed to represent the fall of the West via some hybrid Catholic-Communist revolution? The door looks like Martin Luther's 95 theses (Protestantism)
Rothschild family just openly fucking with us!
Edit, not sure what thread this fits in. Basically each card could fit into one of the different threads in Politics! I'll leave it here since I find the 2017 European Election wheel of fortune card the most puzzling. What are they trying to say?
First I didn't think any of it, but looking closer at the Tower one gave me the hibbies. Lets talk about the cards.
There seem to be 2 different groups, communists and christians on the Tower one. Doesn't really make sense that much, but I dont think its the literal meaning. In my opinion the communists ones are the globalist and cultural marxists while the christians are the traditionalist conservatives.
But what does the Tower card mean in Tarot in general? It seems there are multiple explanations.
This is one I found (https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/major-arcana/tower/). Highlighting done by me.
So lets recap:
- There isn't an orientation of the lighting, so it seems there is no intended meaning
- There are 10 flames, not 22. No idea what it means or if it even has an intended meaning.
- Gray clouds above everyone. This means both groups are being played in a hegelian dialectic way against each other. Soros modus operandi, anyone? Of course this is highly speculative.
- The tower itself. Yeah, Trump Tower is eerily fitting the theme.
The Wheel of Fortune card seems to be literal.
The death one doesn't seem to be literal, but interesting nonetheless:
Putting the past behind you = reconciliation with Russia?
The Hermit one is interesting as well:
Together with the globe and TTIP the Hermit seems to portray a rise of Independence, Isoliationism and Nationalism.
So thats basically it. Its not like I have a really idea about Tarot except a quick Google Search. Hope I didnt break the two-fifty rule by doing that.
For all we know it could be only a cool Cover Design idea, which it frankly is. But the Tower one really weirds me out, regardless and I trust my gut feeling.
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