Mark Minter is getting married?
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Does he have children of his own? If not, I can totally understand why he's doing this. He's 58, if he wants children of his own, he's going to have to start pretty damned soon. And an attractive (taking him at his word) 34 yr old single mom isn't a bad option provided she has the right mentality.
For one thing, not all single mothers are created equal. Not all of them were either knocked up by a bad boy or divorced their husbands to follow an Eat, Pray, Love lifestyle. Some of them lost their husbands to accidents, war, etc. Further, a 34 yr old single mother has a better chance of getting preggers, carrying to term and delivering a healthy baby than does a childless 34 yr old woman.
Unless you are Jack Nicholson rich/famous, I suspect most of us won't be banging chicks in their 20s when we are in our 60s, so I can see why a man would turn his attention to raising his children rather than banging unattractive women in their 40s and 50s.
For one thing, not all single mothers are created equal. Not all of them were either knocked up by a bad boy or divorced their husbands to follow an Eat, Pray, Love lifestyle. Some of them lost their husbands to accidents, war, etc. Further, a 34 yr old single mother has a better chance of getting preggers, carrying to term and delivering a healthy baby than does a childless 34 yr old woman.
Unless you are Jack Nicholson rich/famous, I suspect most of us won't be banging chicks in their 20s when we are in our 60s, so I can see why a man would turn his attention to raising his children rather than banging unattractive women in their 40s and 50s.
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He will be eligible for Social Security in 7 years. Maybe its just me but you have to be crazy to have a baby/start a family at that late age?
Is Mark Minter religious? The only time I ever can see the need for marriage if the parties involved are religious. If he isnt religious why cant he just keep her as a girlfriend?
I smell a publicity stunt, but maybe not.
I don't blame him for getting married at the age he is, but I do question marrying a single mom. I would never raise
another man's kid idgaf.
I don't blame him for getting married at the age he is, but I do question marrying a single mom. I would never raise
another man's kid idgaf.
Sure, seems crazy to us, but if he reached that age and doesn't have any children but wants them, it probably doesn't seem so crazy to him. And wouldn't seem crazy to me either if I wait that long.bacon said:
Dunno if he's religious. Even if he's not, she's not without any leverage in this situation. She knows that Mark's options for finding an attractive and truly feminine woman her age are slim, so she may have been in a position to demand marriage in return for companionship and giving him children.bacon said:
Either Minter is poor, and has nothing to lose in a marriage, but then why did Kate go for him in the first place?
If Minter is rich, then he is just turning into a soft old man. Eventually, we all get soft. It's one of the worst parts of getting old.
Marriage questions aside, I wrote about how a woman's sexual experience means nothing, so Kate could very well be an ideal girlfriend. But getting married, with all of the legal questions it entails, is just retarded.
Maybe Minster figures he's gonna die in 20 years so he thinks, "Fuck it, might as well get one more woman for 5-10 more years for one last hurrah."
If Minter is rich, then he is just turning into a soft old man. Eventually, we all get soft. It's one of the worst parts of getting old.
Marriage questions aside, I wrote about how a woman's sexual experience means nothing, so Kate could very well be an ideal girlfriend. But getting married, with all of the legal questions it entails, is just retarded.
Maybe Minster figures he's gonna die in 20 years so he thinks, "Fuck it, might as well get one more woman for 5-10 more years for one last hurrah."
He could easily go to a different country with far more favorable family laws and probably marry a woman without children. When you introduce a child the dynamic is different. The child is#1 and his is probably #3. I think her red-pillness is just saying what he wants to hear. She will change her tune once married.
From reading plenty of comments on CH and especially Rationalmale I believe Minter's got two kids from his former marriage and is rather well off financially.
Also Kate seems to be from a pretty rich family.
So I don't think money or kids are an issue here. Also from her gravatar pic, if that's her, she looks pretty decent. EDIT: Hmm, seems she took it down. Oh well, someone roam Minter's friendlist on facebook, she'll be on there
To be honest this doesn't surprise me at all. When Mark was at his peak frequency and intensity commenting you could see her melt for him in the comments. Since he's using his real name and has a link to his facebook page on every post he makes, it's only a small step.
This is going to be a good case study. Let's hope they keep us updated (or not if everything goes ok).
Also Kate seems to be from a pretty rich family.
So I don't think money or kids are an issue here. Also from her gravatar pic, if that's her, she looks pretty decent. EDIT: Hmm, seems she took it down. Oh well, someone roam Minter's friendlist on facebook, she'll be on there
To be honest this doesn't surprise me at all. When Mark was at his peak frequency and intensity commenting you could see her melt for him in the comments. Since he's using his real name and has a link to his facebook page on every post he makes, it's only a small step.
This is going to be a good case study. Let's hope they keep us updated (or not if everything goes ok).
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I've seen photos of her before because she used to have them linked to her profile on Rollo's blog and to me the woman isn't hideous but that's about the nicest thing I can say. At least she isn't fat. Supposedly she's a single mother, but I guess that matters less as you advance in years. Most late middle-aged American men certainly do worse but at the same time, feeling lucky about marrying a not-fugly single mother whose neurosis has drawn her into the heartiste/rollo/roosh world of relationship dynamics, is like getting jacked that you hit a single cherry on the nickle slot machine.
Normally two people coming together is a cause for celebration and we congratulate the couple while privately hoping for the best against the odds. I can't feel those sentiments given this context - an oscillating man waving a farcical anti-marriage banner and his shrill insistence on the deleterious effect of having a woman in your life. Suddenly a woman appears in his life, hardly a temptress, and he reflexively puts a fucking ring on it. This is after everything we all know about women and the common misery and drudgery of marriage. This is after everything he knows- that women can and will divorce you on a whim. I don't even think it's been a year since Mark Minter 'entered' this part of the web guns-a-blazin'. Well that fire went out quick!
I understand the desire for companionship, and maybe these things are more important as you get older. But please remind me: what are the benefits of a 58 year old guy going to the courthouse and getting married instead of committing to a serious long term and loving relationship? Did something about the inherent risks of marriage change? Did something about women change? Why put yourself in this situation?
Assuming this isn't a joke, I hope they're happy and that they can grow something fruitful out of this jaded and poisoned corner of the internet. Maybe this woman isn't like that.
But given the circumstances, I can't consider his perspective on relationship advice except out of suspicion or personal caution. To me he's an example of who I don't want to be now and especially when I get to 58.
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I've seen photos of her before because she used to have them linked to her profile on Rollo's blog and to me the woman isn't hideous but that's about the nicest thing I can say. At least she isn't fat. Supposedly she's a single mother, but I guess that matters less as you advance in years. Most late middle-aged American men certainly do worse but at the same time, feeling lucky about marrying a not-fugly single mother whose neurosis has drawn her into the heartiste/rollo/roosh world of relationship dynamics, is like getting jacked that you hit a single cherry on the nickle slot machine.
Normally two people coming together is a cause for celebration and we congratulate the couple while privately hoping for the best against the odds. I can't feel those sentiments given this context - an oscillating man waving a farcical anti-marriage banner and his shrill insistence on the deleterious effect of having a woman in your life. Suddenly a woman appears in his life, hardly a temptress, and he reflexively puts a fucking ring on it. This is after everything we all know about women and the common misery and drudgery of marriage. This is after everything he knows- that women can and will divorce you on a whim. I don't even think it's been a year since Mark Minter 'entered' this part of the web guns-a-blazin'. Well that fire went out quick!
I understand the desire for companionship, and maybe these things are more important as you get older. But please remind me: what are the benefits of a 58 year old guy going to the courthouse and getting married instead of committing to a serious long term and loving relationship? Did something about the inherent risks of marriage change? Did something about women change? Why put yourself in this situation?
Assuming this isn't a joke, I hope they're happy and that they can grow something fruitful out of this jaded and poisoned corner of the internet. Maybe this woman isn't like that.
But given the circumstances, I can't consider his perspective on relationship advice except out of suspicion or personal caution. To me he's an example of who I don't want to be now and especially when I get to 58.
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*candle light vigil*
Mark did not have the courage of his convictions. Or is this action supposed to be courageous? Why does the imprimatur of the state have to stamp their relationship? Live like you're married. Act like you're married. But don't put the noose of the state around your neck. What for? Surely not for love. I would not call Kate hot, but she is attractive. She is also a single mom. Not really a problem, unless you marry. Then her child is your problem, but it's not your child. And he has other kids? It's the manosphere brady bunch!
Mark appeared to be proud that he got a 34 year old given that he's 58. I don't recall him writing anything about travelling, seeing the world, and meeting women from other countries. Maybe he did. It's his life, and he can do whatever he wants, but this shit is weak sauce. It demonstrates that merely because you can write emotionally charged prose that guys get a hard on for, it doesn't mean that you can actually live your life that way. Maybe this is a huge troll, who knows.
Mark appeared to be proud that he got a 34 year old given that he's 58. I don't recall him writing anything about travelling, seeing the world, and meeting women from other countries. Maybe he did. It's his life, and he can do whatever he wants, but this shit is weak sauce. It demonstrates that merely because you can write emotionally charged prose that guys get a hard on for, it doesn't mean that you can actually live your life that way. Maybe this is a huge troll, who knows.
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It's certainly strange news given the venom he's been spitting in his anti-marriage rants. It would seem a bit hypocritical to say the least.
However, I can't pass judgment. He's 58 years old and world-weary. He looks at the world with different eyes than most of us here. He has a better idea than any of us what he wants for the rest of his life.
If he thinks that marrying this 34 year old woman and being a father figure to her kid is the right move, so be it, I wish him well. I don't think I'd make the same choice, but then again I haven't walked a mile in Mark Minter's shoes, much less 58 years worth of miles.
However, I can't pass judgment. He's 58 years old and world-weary. He looks at the world with different eyes than most of us here. He has a better idea than any of us what he wants for the rest of his life.
If he thinks that marrying this 34 year old woman and being a father figure to her kid is the right move, so be it, I wish him well. I don't think I'd make the same choice, but then again I haven't walked a mile in Mark Minter's shoes, much less 58 years worth of miles.
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