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<blockquote data-quote="thoughtgypsy" data-source="post: 15605" data-attributes="member: 571"><p>Cleanslate, I agree with pretty much everything you wrote in the post above. </p><p></p><p>I think you guys are taking what I said about insulation from western influence out of context. I never advocated that you move her to hills, put her in captivity and forget about game. In fact, game is more important than ever in this situation.</p><p></p><p>The idea that encouraging women into a domestic role is oppressive strikes me as blue pill. It's something I'd expect to hear from feminists. I think sometimes the obsession with alpha/beta is counterproductive, and certain situations are more nuanced. The "<a href="https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-52490.html" target="_blank">Is it a Bad Move for a Married Man to Allow Another Man to Stay in His Home?</a>" is a perfect example to me. If game were the silver bullet to every situation, the answer would be "No, if you're a super alpha your woman won't have any desire to cheat in any situation. You're coming from a mentality of fear, that's beta." The thread generated a lot of interesting discussion and by and large, most people agree that there's just some situations that shouldn't be encouraged, period.</p><p></p><p>I don't see the environment you set as a black and white thing. There's a middle ground between treating her like a Saudi housebride and treating her like a liberated club rat. At the end of the day her needs will have to be met and she'll need to feel like she's not missing out. A big part of how easily her needs are met are based on her natural inclinations towards a motherly role, her upbringing, and her attitude. That's all done in the vetting process, and relies on you and your awareness of women. Another aspect is your frame and general game ability.</p><p></p><p>And, I think, a big part of that will also be her environment. Who her friends are, what shows she watches, if she has a close relationship with your family. It's not about putting her in chains out of fear, but managing the situation so the outcome works best for everyone involved. Ultimately, she's better off being visited by her grandkids than dying alone with her cats, and taking steps to get her to that eventuality is to her benefit.</p><p></p><p>Early on she'll look to you for the answers regarding friends, entertainment, work environment. If she respects you, and if all her needs are being met, I think she'll understand your expectations and be happy to oblige. I don't see a problem with this. Logistics is part of game, and taking proactive steps to create a lifestyle and environment that benefits your goals seems like a no brainer. If I ever end up in that situation, I'm not going to be taking a hands off approach. The game doesn't end once you've shacked up with someone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thoughtgypsy, post: 15605, member: 571"] Cleanslate, I agree with pretty much everything you wrote in the post above. I think you guys are taking what I said about insulation from western influence out of context. I never advocated that you move her to hills, put her in captivity and forget about game. In fact, game is more important than ever in this situation. The idea that encouraging women into a domestic role is oppressive strikes me as blue pill. It's something I'd expect to hear from feminists. I think sometimes the obsession with alpha/beta is counterproductive, and certain situations are more nuanced. The "[url=https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-52490.html]Is it a Bad Move for a Married Man to Allow Another Man to Stay in His Home?[/url]" is a perfect example to me. If game were the silver bullet to every situation, the answer would be "No, if you're a super alpha your woman won't have any desire to cheat in any situation. You're coming from a mentality of fear, that's beta." The thread generated a lot of interesting discussion and by and large, most people agree that there's just some situations that shouldn't be encouraged, period. I don't see the environment you set as a black and white thing. There's a middle ground between treating her like a Saudi housebride and treating her like a liberated club rat. At the end of the day her needs will have to be met and she'll need to feel like she's not missing out. A big part of how easily her needs are met are based on her natural inclinations towards a motherly role, her upbringing, and her attitude. That's all done in the vetting process, and relies on you and your awareness of women. Another aspect is your frame and general game ability. And, I think, a big part of that will also be her environment. Who her friends are, what shows she watches, if she has a close relationship with your family. It's not about putting her in chains out of fear, but managing the situation so the outcome works best for everyone involved. Ultimately, she's better off being visited by her grandkids than dying alone with her cats, and taking steps to get her to that eventuality is to her benefit. Early on she'll look to you for the answers regarding friends, entertainment, work environment. If she respects you, and if all her needs are being met, I think she'll understand your expectations and be happy to oblige. I don't see a problem with this. Logistics is part of game, and taking proactive steps to create a lifestyle and environment that benefits your goals seems like a no brainer. If I ever end up in that situation, I'm not going to be taking a hands off approach. The game doesn't end once you've shacked up with someone. [/QUOTE]
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