Mass Formation Psychosis

Nomadiccat

 
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They have an excellent 12min video on youtube from April 2020 "The Characteristics of an Initiation Ritual" which presents much of the covid thing in the light of a initiation ritual. (correctly I believe)

Funny how under that vid, published in April 2020, there's a comment from Canada:
If anyone is looking for some relief, I live in Northern Canada and life is normal. No one cares, some businesses like Walmart and Costco are trying to perpetuate the fear mongering but the citizens are not buying it! Not everyone is submitting!
Look at Canada now, 1.5 years after that comment - can't even leave the country unless vaxed.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Yes, how do we square this with Romans 13 exactly?
Romans 13 is one chapter in the Bible. John and Peter defied the authorities to preach in Jerusalem, Daniel go thrown in the lion's den for defying authorities, other Jews too for not worshiping the golden statue. The Bible is full of examples where men are not to submit to authorities who demand unjust and unrighteous acts from their servants. In the ideal situation the power top is there to stabilize society hence we should accept the authority, but when they go outright against all good and Logos not complying is absolutely expected from us.
 

budoslavic

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Eric Clapton claims people who have had the Covid vaccine are victims of 'mass formation hypnosis'​

Clapton, 76, claimed people were hypnotised to follow messages against their will - a theory widely discredited by scientists
In 2020, the singer teamed up with Van Morrison, 76, to release Stand And Deliver, a song slamming lockdowns
He previously claimed to have suffered side effects from the AstraZeneca jab that left his hands and feet either 'frozen, numb or burning'

Eric Clapton has claimed that anyone who has taken the Covid vaccine is a victim of 'mass formation hypnosis'.

The singer, 76, has previously claimed he suffered alarming side effects after his AstraZeneca jabs and released an anti-lockdown single, Stand And Deliver, with Van Morrison in 2020.

In a new interview for The Real Music Observer YouTube channel, Eric claimed that subliminal messaging hidden in advertising led people to get the jab.

He said: 'Whatever the memo was, it hadn't reached me. Then I started to realise there was really a memo, and a guy, Mattias Desmet [professor of clinical psychology at Ghent University in Belgium], talked about it.

And it's great. The theory of mass formation hypnosis. And I could see it then. Once I kind of started to look for it, I saw it everywhere.

'Then I remembered seeing little things on YouTube which were like subliminal advertising. It had been going on for a long time: that thing about "you will own nothing and you will be happy."

'And I thought, "What's that mean?" And bit by bit, I put a rough kind of jigsaw puzzle together. And that made me even more resolute.'

Mass formation psychosis - an attempt to hypnotise groups of people to follow messages against their will - has been widely discredited by scientists.

Asked why he felt implored to speak out in the first place, Clapton explained: 'My career had almost gone anyway. At the point where I spoke out it had been almost been 18 months since I'd been forcibly retired.

'I joined forces with Van and I got the tip Van was standing up to the measures and I thought, "why is nobody else doing this" so I contacted him.

'He said "I'm just objecting really. But it seems like we're not even allowed to do that. And nobody else is doing it."

'He sent me Stand and Deliver, which he'd already recorded. And it was during the process of talking about that with another musician, getting excited and sharing the news I found that nobody wanted to hear that.

'I was mystified, I seemed to be the only person that found it exciting or even appropriate. I'm cut from a cloth where if you tell me I can't do something, I really want to know why.

'My family and friends got scared, and I think they were scared on my behalf.'

Clapton added that he also stopped watching the news due to the 'one-way traffic about following orders and obedience', which helped motivate him musically.

After he voiced his views, the Wonderful Tonight hitmaker - who is father to daughters Ruth, 37, Julie, 20, Ella, 19, and 16-year-old Sophie - said: 'My family and friends think I am a crackpot anyway.

'Over the last year, there's been a lot of disappearing - a lot of dust around, with people moving away quite quickly.

'It has, for me, refined the kind of friendship I have. And it's dwindled down to the people that I obviously really need and love.

'Inside my family, that became quite pivotal... I've got teenage girls, and an older girl who's in he thirties - and they've all had to kind of give me leeway because I haven't been able to convince any of them.'

Clapton - who is married to Melia McEnery - added: 'I would try to reach out to fellow musicians and sometimes I just don't hear from them.

'My phone doesn't ring very often. I don't get that many texts and emails anymore.'

Clapton has been releasing anti-vaccination and anti-lockdown statements and songs for months.

In December 2020, Clapton joined fellow classic rocker turned anti-vaxxer Van on his song, Stand and Deliver.

The song features lyrics including, 'Do you wanna be a free man / Or do you wanna be a slave?' and 'Dick Turpin wore a mask too.'

Clapton previously detailed a 'disastrous' experience with the AstraZeneca vaccine for which he blamed 'propaganda' for pushing on him.

The musician continued on revealing that he suffers from 'peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.'

In a message to his music producer, he said: 'I took the first jab of AZ [AstraZeneca] and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days.'

The 76-year-old said he 'recovered eventually' but suffered further 'disastrous reactions' six weeks later after the second shot.

He added: 'My hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again...

'I should never have gone near the needle. But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone.'


^^^^
 

Letsgokazakhstan

 
Banned
Orthodox
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There's going to be a real coming to Jesus moment for many of the brainwashed people across society at some point. Their whole fabricated reality will cave in on itself.

They're probably going to completely crack psychologically, end up on meds and not be able to function within society in the coming years. The worst will be in the parents who realize they willfully injected their children with a life altering poison and the side effects can hit tomorrow or 15 years from now.
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Yep... and family who've ostracized their own kids/siblings as crazy 'conspiracy theorists' and 'anti-vaxers'.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

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Orthodox Inquirer

OrthoMexicano

 
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Entire west under mass psychoses since what evil call good and good call evil. How can explain except mass psychoses?? Reality in reverse, women superior to men, homo/trans better straight. No no no inflation GOOD! There us comedian george carlin he state entire system is full of bull crap but you cant say nothing or it collapse cause so much bull crap that current world.
 

Beachywanderer

 
Banned
Protestant
Yes, I also believe that ritual retains a key significance in the governance of this world and with particular reference to the covid takeover
I am not sure if you have heard of TruthStream Media?

They have an excellent 12min video on youtube from April 2020 "The Characteristics of an Initiation Ritual" which presents much of the covid thing in the light of a initiation ritual. (correctly I believe)

Truthstream media have been for many years been wise to the big pharma con and have worked with Dr Peter Breggin regularly - he has many years work exposing and warring against big pharma and its fake mental illness/medications etc.

As regards the mass formation psychosis thing/diagnosis specifically - it sounds like a product of the system itself but one that enables the continued belief in the system as capable of self correcting.

Sort of like the same company that causes cancer also sells the chemo. This is not a psychological problem. Its a moral one - so I believe .
That truthstream has good stuff, surprised somehow they havent been struck down yet. What do you think of breggin working with Fitts and sued by Malone, controlled op? Have you read his covid book? Tryna understand the dynamic here, its so hard to have to sift through.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Eckhart Tolle described the Covid psychosis as a "mind virus".
Pretty good assessment. It showed what information can do to people's behavior. And the danger of getting in false info for vast heaps of people. At least I now understood how totalitarian 20th century movements could become so big: they controlled the info and therefore the behavior, leading it in a nefarious direction.
 

Steady Hands

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Gold Member
Solid thread by @NoMoreTO.

Eckhart Tolle described the Covid psychosis as a "mind virus".

Can you provide a source? Thanks

Also:

Dr Malone picked up the concept from a Flemish psychology professor, Mattias Desmet, very bright guy. It goes back to Gustave le Bon, who was a based 19th century French sociologist, rather than Karl Jung, mentioned above, who was an early 20th century philosopher that was tightly connected to the deep state, and was involved in things like the UFO psyop.

One of the the things that makes the quality of Desmet's analysis so sharp is that he is also well versed in hard science, having a masters in statistics.

Here is a short description of the mass formation process explained by Desmet:



summary from a blogger:

The key takeaway is what the world governments are doing is conditioning like a cult. They first cause immense stress and anxiety(COVID) then isolate & deprive you of needed social interactions(lock downs and face masks) then prescribe the solution (vaccine & vaccine passports) so all of your negative emotions are focused solely on that. Therefore anyone or anything standing in the way of the solution receives the full wrath of your emotions. This absolutely explains why people are acting mad and accepting the totalitarianism sweeping the West. Professor Desmet explains it much better so watch the video. If you have time, listen to No Agenda because they break it down too.
No Agenda podcast from Sunday August 15th, "Mass Formation" ep. 1373 https://www.noagendashow.net/listen/1373



^ key post in this thread. Credit to Prof. Mattias - a courageous and very perceptive man.

Here is a more recent video featuring him:

 
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Goldenlion

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Breggin response to Desmet and Malone mass formation psychosis theory, excerpts:

The synonymous concepts of mass formation, mass hypnosis, and mass psychosis have an obvious damaging impact on the international health freedom movement and on the cause of liberty everywhere. These concepts take our eyes off the totalitarian global predators who are taking over and exploiting humanity. They restrain us from charging these predators with criminal conspiracy if we win the battle with them.

The strategy for undermining the people and ignoring the perpetrators is twofold:

First, mass hypnosis or mass psychosis minimizes or denies how dictators act through violent conspiracies to take over people and to crush their freedom, their free will, and their human spirit. The people themselves, and not the conspiring dictators, are to blame for totalitarianism. The pernicious effects of the Desmet/Malone ideology came fully into light with the recent publication of Desmet’s The Psychology of Totalitarianism and Malone’s continuing efforts in support of mass psychosis.

Second, those who believe that there are underlying organized collaborations behind disasters such as COVID-19 policies (and even Nazi Germany) are described by Desmet as emotionally disturbed (pp. 126-128). Like the masses, these “conspiracy thinkers” focus on non-extent threats — such as organized elites, worldwide political classes, or people of enormous wealth and power — in order to relieve themselves of intense anxiety as they observe the mass psychosis around them. Worst yet, according to Desmet, these thinkers drive people into mass psychosis with their conspiracy theories (p. 137). Everybody, except the real perpetrators, is blamed.


he and his wife apparently caught convid, has recovered, but not at full capacity to continue his work.

Excerpts from Catherine Austin-Fitts:


… if you want to understand mass formation, it's one of the things written, it was presented clearly in a book by Mattias Desmet called the Psychology of Totalitarianism, [which was reviewed on the Solari report, you can find it on the website. And then Peter Breggin wrote a review of it as well. And it was interesting because I, I agreed to read the book at the same time Peter agreed to, to read the book. And I found it an exceptionally painful book to read, Peter began to criticize mass formation. And Peter is brilliant. He's intense, he's aggressive. And one of the reasons he started to criticize it was he's written a book describing the real problems we have with the intersection between psychopaths and political power. And this has been a problem throughout human history where psychopaths, a certain percentage of the population, are born without empathy. It's hard for everybody else to understand that, that people are like that, that they exist. And, and the psychopaths are very good at finding each other and organizing to achieve political power. And now, with this centralization afforded by digital technology, it's really dangerous. So Peter has written a book, one of his most recent on the problem of predators, and the sort of the theory of mass formation attributes to totalitarianism the psychological hysteria of the general population, as opposed to psychopaths who engineer, you know, tyranny. Anyway, so there's a there's a profound disagreement. And I think one of Peters greatest concerns was that Dr. Malone had associated the word psychosis or hypnosis with mass formation, and it looked like something that could be used to essentially forgive the people who'd implemented mass atrocity
 

Aldebaran

Robin
Protestant
Second, those who believe that there are underlying organized collaborations behind disasters such as COVID-19 policies (and even Nazi Germany) are described by Desmet as emotionally disturbed (pp. 126-128). Like the masses, these “conspiracy thinkers” focus on non-extent threats — such as organized elites, worldwide political classes, or people of enormous wealth and power — in order to relieve themselves of intense anxiety as they observe the mass psychosis around them. Worst yet, according to Desmet, these thinkers drive people into mass psychosis with their conspiracy theories (p. 137). Everybody, except the real perpetrators, is blamed.

Uhm, what? Is he saying that there isn't underlying organized collaboration behind Covid-19 policies?
 

Steady Hands

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Gold Member
Breggin response to Desmet and Malone mass formation psychosis theory, excerpts:

The synonymous concepts of mass formation, mass hypnosis, and mass psychosis have an obvious damaging impact on the international health freedom movement and on the cause of liberty everywhere. These concepts take our eyes off the totalitarian global predators who are taking over and exploiting humanity. They restrain us from charging these predators with criminal conspiracy if we win the battle with them.

The strategy for undermining the people and ignoring the perpetrators is twofold:

First, mass hypnosis or mass psychosis minimizes or denies how dictators act through violent conspiracies to take over people and to crush their freedom, their free will, and their human spirit. The people themselves, and not the conspiring dictators, are to blame for totalitarianism. The pernicious effects of the Desmet/Malone ideology came fully into light with the recent publication of Desmet’s The Psychology of Totalitarianism and Malone’s continuing efforts in support of mass psychosis.

Second, those who believe that there are underlying organized collaborations behind disasters such as COVID-19 policies (and even Nazi Germany) are described by Desmet as emotionally disturbed (pp. 126-128). Like the masses, these “conspiracy thinkers” focus on non-extent threats — such as organized elites, worldwide political classes, or people of enormous wealth and power — in order to relieve themselves of intense anxiety as they observe the mass psychosis around them. Worst yet, according to Desmet, these thinkers drive people into mass psychosis with their conspiracy theories (p. 137). Everybody, except the real perpetrators, is blamed.


he and his wife apparently caught convid, has recovered, but not at full capacity to continue his work.

Excerpts from Catherine Austin-Fitts:

I don't buy this. Looks like more counter-productive infighting.

Supposedly Desmet is "blaming the victim" while ignoring the deliberate plots of the elite and calling vax-cynics "conspiracy theorists". Seems like Breggin has a bone to pick and is seeking any semantic leverage over Desmet and Malone to twist their words in his own favour.

From the 2nd page you linked
So, Malone’s buddy Desmet makes a claim which the Breggins and Catherine interpreted as letting the bad guys off the hook. Malone (seemingly bigger game) says something in support of Desmet, so then the Breggins pivot and aim the pot shots at Malone, to the point of creating a website with more than 40 items on it to smear Malone, and churning out one article after another to do the same.

I could be wrong though. Just watch this interview with Tucker:

"In the first week of covid... I published two papers... the title of the first paper was 'the fear of the virus is worse than the virus itself'..."

Controlled opposition confirmed ;)

 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
I don't buy this. Looks like more counter-productive infighting.

Supposedly Desmet is "blaming the victim" while ignoring the deliberate plots of the elite and calling vax-cynics "conspiracy theorists". Seems like Breggin has a bone to pick and is seeking any semantic leverage over Desmet and Malone to twist their words in his own favour.

From the 2nd page you linked


I could be wrong though. Just watch this interview with Tucker:

"In the first week of covid... I published two papers... the title of the first paper was 'the fear of the virus is worse than the virus itself'..."

Controlled opposition confirmed ;)


Controlled opposition because he was ''too quick'' to come up with papers you mean? Like Klaus' Great Reset after 3 months of lockdowns :laughter: My trust in people truly has taken an irrepairable hit. Also because allegedly there are people ''on our side'' who truly are not on our side. Could be nefarious if that's the case for someone, but also could be because of ignorance. It's tough for many people especially ''experts'' and high intellectual scientific people to break through the wall entirely and accept that everything they were ever told was a lie.
 
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