Mayweather Deflates Ronda Rousey: I Don't Know Who He Is

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TravelerKai

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DarkTriad said:
anonymous123 said:
- Speaking from the viewpoint of a wrestler, I can't imagine the barrage of punches one would have to get through in order to get a single leg on Mayweather. He'd be dropping bombs the whole way. No reason for him to learn ground moves with such striking capability.

- Comparing this chick Rousey to Gracie or any of the other UFC greats is a flawed argument and is an attempt to steer the conversation towards "gound game vs boxing" instead of the real argument at hand which is: Rousey vs Mayweather. If we stick to Rousey vs. Mayweather...then Mayweather could pound her face into hamburger after a pack of cigarettes and six beers without her ever getting a leg, an arm, or anything else to get her hands on.

- It is only the very elite wrestlers and UFC stars that could pick an ankle or get in close enough to get a takedown on the likes of Mayweather

"- Speaking from the viewpoint of a wrestler, I can't imagine the barrage of punches one would have to get through in order to get a single leg on Mayweather."

The same barrage that Randy had to deal with to get James Toney's leg?

"- It is only the very elite wrestlers and UFC stars that could pick an ankle or get in close enough to get a takedown on the likes of Mayweather"

Almost every male on the current UFC roster would likely get ahold of him
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I doubt that. Jose Aldo, Benson Henderson, Little Hulk, etc. could catch Floyd, but in a bare fisted fight, alot of times the first to punch gains a massive advantage. Getting used to punching bare fisted is not something any of these guys do. For one it's risky for finger breaks, etc. Floyd might bust his hand but he might also bust their orbital bones first. Uriah Faber can take lots of punches but certain guys jaw/neck are not that strong. Faber is too slow to catch Floyd I think. Benson or Jose Aldo could catch him easily but again, they are the elite of their weight class, but due to weight and their jaw strength I would not be shocked to see them get dropped by Floyd either.

Jon Bones Jones would kill Floyd but again, he is the best of his class. Anderson Silva in his prime is a no brainer as well as GSP. They actually could go strike for strike with him I think. No grappling needed.

Cain Velasquez might be the heaviest guy that might have a prayer's of a chance in catching Floyd, but again he is the best of his class too. His reach is too big as well. Floyd should just run if that guy came after him. I would too and he still might catch anyone without a decent lead off.

Speed matters alot. If you cannot catch him with hand grabs, you cannot dodge him or counter him either. He has fought elite boxers his whole life and has occasionally gone rounds where the guys DID NOT EVEN TOUCH HIM! You cannot even tell when he is even giving 100% effort in evasion because he is such a showman.

That's what is so mind blowing about Floyd. Not many guys in history are like this.
 

Teedub

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Let's not let this devolve into a MMA v Boxing thing. It's about Ronda Rousey v Mayweather, and there's no chance she'd win. Under either set of rules.
 

Fortis

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Agreed.

Ronda Rousey is far and away from being equal with many of the male mma fighters being mentioned here. I wonder how long before she does porn?
 

Solus

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One solid leg kick lands from an elite male MMA fighter and Floyd is basically done. None of them would even try to punch him from the outset irrespective of weight class.

Ronda on the other hand would get destroyed.
 

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She'd get killed. Dayna White is using her as a pure marketing ploy.

If she was lucky enough to get close to Mayweather to take him down, yeah I guess it's possible. It's extremely likely she'd get knocked out the minute she got within his range.

It's a male against a female. I've grappled against many women, and they just don't stand a chance. If it's a guys first time on the mat and he knows absolutely nothing, sure a girl who's been training can sub him. Once he gains experience it's done.

I'm a purple belt in BJJ. I've grappled against a girl who came in second in the World Championships in her weight class. I outweighed her by 30 lbs. In all of our several rolling session never was I under any threat, and quite frankly I just fucked around before applying pressure and submitting her. This is a girl who came in 2nd place in the world's. I'm not even an elite BJJ athlete I train 3x a week.

A male versus female in nearly every sport isn't a fair contest. That's not to say that these women are not extremely talented and hard working athletes, they are. I respect their skill level and I give credit where credit is due. But these people who believe that women can legitimately compete at the same level with men need their heads examined.
 

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TravelerKai said:
Cr33pin said:
There was a little guy at my old gym that stood about 5'7" at best and weighted about 125lbs. He was a Judo brown belt and knew his shit. We would get all types of guys coming to the gym for various reasons and bet them they couldn't take that little guy down. They all laughed, some were wrestlers, muay thai, mma, bjj, ect. They would get into the ring with the little guy and he would throw them around like a sack of potatoes. Wrestlers always went the hardest, the would just lock up with him right off the bat and then they would be on the ground embarrassed as shit. Ronda Rousey is a Olympic level Judo player and a freakish athlete as far as women go. I'm pretty sure she could close the distance and throw Money Mayweather on his ass and submit him. I don't think Meisha Tate or Gina Carano or really any other female MMA fighter would be able to do so, but I think in MMA rules Ronda gets the win.

No way dude. Sorry. Floyd would knock out most of the pro MMA fighters I have trained over the years. The only ones he could never beat are probably my heavyweights (230+lbs) and he maybe would not beat an elite 170 pounder I used to train due to his black belt in BJJ and brown belt in Judo and sheer number/quality of wins in his record.

I doubt Rhonda could even beat me. I have a black belt in BJJ and Traditional Judo, Japanese Ju Jitsu, and 10+ years of Muay Thai experience. Not to mention I weigh alot more than she does.

The thing you guys are not understanding is the sheer speed at which Floyd can fight at. Rhonda would be knocked out while standing and subsequently collapse while Floyd had already dashed back and switched his stance/feet twice, while she is still falling mid air...

That kind of foot speed is WORLD CLASS speed. Any real fighter or trainer knows this. He would dot her eyes so quickly she would never have a chance to be able to grab his arms or body for a takedown. If they started on the ground she could beat him for sure. If they started on feet, he would destroy her immediately. He would destroy 98% of the world's population in a fight. He could not beat any of those world strongest men guys unless they kneel down and let him punch them.

An old Chinese gong fu master told me when I was a young man, that the Chinese have a saying, "Power will always be number 1 and weight equals power. Technique is number 2." MMA fighters such as myself have more than 50 pounds on her. Our bones are super dense because we have many times more testosterone than she does. We have cured our fists, elbows, and knees using Muay Thai. A good punch from us would shatter her orbital bone.

Floyd is no different. He has broken his fingers from hitting other MEN in the face so hard recently. Our bone density means alot as men.

You know I have had a few ameuter boxers on my teams cross over into MMA. Anytime I would get a newly joined boxer I would ask him to spar with all of my guys, round robin, just because I wanted them to humble my guys. After fighters start to feel their nuts after a few cagefight wins, they start getting cocky as shit and lazy. They start thinking they can beat boxers and that their standup is perfect. The boxers never failed to dish out some humble pie. They always ended up being super popular in the gym and quickly befriended by all my fighters arguing over time with the boxer.

You guys need to understand sheer bone density and weight/power better. Clay Matthews of the Green Bay Packers would kill Rhonda instantly and he is like a white belt in MMA last time I checked.
are your mma fighters allowed to go for takedowns when they spar your boxers

James Toney, he was shot by then in all fairness, tried to switch over to UFC. He got beat in the quickness
 

lalafufu

 
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didn't realize the video would be set on private

there's not much. it's 22 seconds long, and he responds with I don't know who he is when a reporter asks him about mmagirl's trolling
 

TravelerKai

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One solid leg kick lands from an elite male MMA fighter and Floyd is basically done. None of them would even try to punch him from the outset irrespective of weight class.

Ronda on the other hand would get destroyed.

Not necessarily true. Floyd is an extremely well conditioned athlete. Look at his legs and the legs of a pro soccer player. Almost the same look right? If a pro Muay Thai Fighter give them or Floyd one good kick (if it didn't miss), you cannot say for 100% that they would instantly drop. Well the soccer player would if it was a soccer match because they like to flop, but I have personally squeezed their legs to know how hard they are (don't ask why). In a street fight it would hurt them for sure, because it just does, but that is not a guarantee drop. Can they take 2 or 3 chops to the legs? Probably not.

Don't get me wrong those kicks are dangerous, especially against normal everyday people. Almost all of them definitely cannot take even one kick, which is why Muay Thai is arguably alot better for street defense than BJJ would be. Short term at least until age and health becomes an issue.
 

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"Almost every male on the current UFC roster would likely get ahold of him."

And your point here? Does this mean that you think Ronda Rousey is going to get ahold of Mayweather?

I don't think anyone is debating that it would be interesting to see GSP vs Mayweather (and all the debate that would follow).

Ronda Rousey vs. Mayweather? Please.
 

anonymous123

 
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Teedub has simplified the key point here:
Teedub said:
Let's not let this devolve into a MMA v Boxing thing. It's about Ronda Rousey v Mayweather, and there's no chance she'd win. Under either set of rules.

MMA vs Boxing is a completely different topic. (and, this has been said about 10 times - in several different ways - in just a two pages of posts on this thread...)
 

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lalafufu said:
TravelerKai said:
Cr33pin said:
There was a little guy at my old gym that stood about 5'7" at best and weighted about 125lbs. He was a Judo brown belt and knew his shit. We would get all types of guys coming to the gym for various reasons and bet them they couldn't take that little guy down. They all laughed, some were wrestlers, muay thai, mma, bjj, ect. They would get into the ring with the little guy and he would throw them around like a sack of potatoes. Wrestlers always went the hardest, the would just lock up with him right off the bat and then they would be on the ground embarrassed as shit. Ronda Rousey is a Olympic level Judo player and a freakish athlete as far as women go. I'm pretty sure she could close the distance and throw Money Mayweather on his ass and submit him. I don't think Meisha Tate or Gina Carano or really any other female MMA fighter would be able to do so, but I think in MMA rules Ronda gets the win.

No way dude. Sorry. Floyd would knock out most of the pro MMA fighters I have trained over the years. The only ones he could never beat are probably my heavyweights (230+lbs) and he maybe would not beat an elite 170 pounder I used to train due to his black belt in BJJ and brown belt in Judo and sheer number/quality of wins in his record.

I doubt Rhonda could even beat me. I have a black belt in BJJ and Traditional Judo, Japanese Ju Jitsu, and 10+ years of Muay Thai experience. Not to mention I weigh alot more than she does.

The thing you guys are not understanding is the sheer speed at which Floyd can fight at. Rhonda would be knocked out while standing and subsequently collapse while Floyd had already dashed back and switched his stance/feet twice, while she is still falling mid air...

That kind of foot speed is WORLD CLASS speed. Any real fighter or trainer knows this. He would dot her eyes so quickly she would never have a chance to be able to grab his arms or body for a takedown. If they started on the ground she could beat him for sure. If they started on feet, he would destroy her immediately. He would destroy 98% of the world's population in a fight. He could not beat any of those world strongest men guys unless they kneel down and let him punch them.

An old Chinese gong fu master told me when I was a young man, that the Chinese have a saying, "Power will always be number 1 and weight equals power. Technique is number 2." MMA fighters such as myself have more than 50 pounds on her. Our bones are super dense because we have many times more testosterone than she does. We have cured our fists, elbows, and knees using Muay Thai. A good punch from us would shatter her orbital bone.

Floyd is no different. He has broken his fingers from hitting other MEN in the face so hard recently. Our bone density means alot as men.

You know I have had a few ameuter boxers on my teams cross over into MMA. Anytime I would get a newly joined boxer I would ask him to spar with all of my guys, round robin, just because I wanted them to humble my guys. After fighters start to feel their nuts after a few cagefight wins, they start getting cocky as shit and lazy. They start thinking they can beat boxers and that their standup is perfect. The boxers never failed to dish out some humble pie. They always ended up being super popular in the gym and quickly befriended by all my fighters arguing over time with the boxer.

You guys need to understand sheer bone density and weight/power better. Clay Matthews of the Green Bay Packers would kill Rhonda instantly and he is like a white belt in MMA last time I checked.
are your mma fighters allowed to go for takedowns when they spar your boxers

James Toney, he was shot by then in all fairness, tried to switch over to UFC. He got beat in the quickness

For those sparring drills, no. It was just striking practice. I would separate striking from groundwork, then later combine the two. When the 2 boxers joined up I let them just do standup with my guys the first day just to teach my guys a lesson. Practices after that would be normal schedule. As an instructor it is good to let a special guests/new members teach something that the others they otherwise would not get on their own. In the past I have even sent off guys to boxing gyms for a month or two, just to break some of their bad habits. If someone they do not know keeps hitting them over their mistakes they usually figure it out and stop it.

I even once invited a 4th dan Karate black belt from Japan to spar with my guys. They were drooling when they saw his thin kimono gi and black belt. Each of them lost to him in sparring. 3 of them he KO'd. He even told them take downs were okay because he wanted the extra practice in defending it!

Sometimes telling guys to respect traditional styles goes in one ear and out the other...
 

Solus

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TravelerKai said:
Solus said:
One solid leg kick lands from an elite male MMA fighter and Floyd is basically done. None of them would even try to punch him from the outset irrespective of weight class.

Ronda on the other hand would get destroyed.

Not necessarily true. Floyd is an extremely well conditioned athlete. Look at his legs and the legs of a pro soccer player. Almost the same look right? If a pro Muay Thai Fighter give them or Floyd one good kick (if it didn't miss), you cannot say for 100% that they would instantly drop. Well the soccer player would if it was a soccer match because they like to flop, but I have personally squeezed their legs to know how hard they are (don't ask why). In a street fight it would hurt them for sure, because it just does, but that is not a guarantee drop. Can they take 2 or 3 chops to the legs? Probably not.

Don't get me wrong those kicks are dangerous, especially against normal everyday people. Almost all of them definitely cannot take even one kick, which is why Muay Thai is arguably alot better for street defense than BJJ would be. Short term at least until age and health becomes an issue.

I see what you're saying but I doubt Floyd is conditioned to take/check kicks because there's no reason for him to be. I'm not talking about aesthetics/muscles. Soccer players have strong legs, no doubt, but I don't think it's the same.

I should have specified that a single leg kick might not put Floyd out but would rather do at least enough damage to allow the MMA fighter to grab a hold of him and drag him down. Needless to say if the MMA fighter lands a few more then yeah, I'd say it's game over.

However let's not get too far off topic.

Ronda Rousey isn't beating Floyd Mayweather unless Dana White blindsides him with a steel chair WWE-style.
 

lalafufu

 
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TravelerKai said:
lalafufu said:
TravelerKai said:
Cr33pin said:
There was a little guy at my old gym that stood about 5'7" at best and weighted about 125lbs. He was a Judo brown belt and knew his shit. We would get all types of guys coming to the gym for various reasons and bet them they couldn't take that little guy down. They all laughed, some were wrestlers, muay thai, mma, bjj, ect. They would get into the ring with the little guy and he would throw them around like a sack of potatoes. Wrestlers always went the hardest, the would just lock up with him right off the bat and then they would be on the ground embarrassed as shit. Ronda Rousey is a Olympic level Judo player and a freakish athlete as far as women go. I'm pretty sure she could close the distance and throw Money Mayweather on his ass and submit him. I don't think Meisha Tate or Gina Carano or really any other female MMA fighter would be able to do so, but I think in MMA rules Ronda gets the win.

No way dude. Sorry. Floyd would knock out most of the pro MMA fighters I have trained over the years. The only ones he could never beat are probably my heavyweights (230+lbs) and he maybe would not beat an elite 170 pounder I used to train due to his black belt in BJJ and brown belt in Judo and sheer number/quality of wins in his record.

I doubt Rhonda could even beat me. I have a black belt in BJJ and Traditional Judo, Japanese Ju Jitsu, and 10+ years of Muay Thai experience. Not to mention I weigh alot more than she does.

The thing you guys are not understanding is the sheer speed at which Floyd can fight at. Rhonda would be knocked out while standing and subsequently collapse while Floyd had already dashed back and switched his stance/feet twice, while she is still falling mid air...

That kind of foot speed is WORLD CLASS speed. Any real fighter or trainer knows this. He would dot her eyes so quickly she would never have a chance to be able to grab his arms or body for a takedown. If they started on the ground she could beat him for sure. If they started on feet, he would destroy her immediately. He would destroy 98% of the world's population in a fight. He could not beat any of those world strongest men guys unless they kneel down and let him punch them.

An old Chinese gong fu master told me when I was a young man, that the Chinese have a saying, "Power will always be number 1 and weight equals power. Technique is number 2." MMA fighters such as myself have more than 50 pounds on her. Our bones are super dense because we have many times more testosterone than she does. We have cured our fists, elbows, and knees using Muay Thai. A good punch from us would shatter her orbital bone.

Floyd is no different. He has broken his fingers from hitting other MEN in the face so hard recently. Our bone density means alot as men.

You know I have had a few ameuter boxers on my teams cross over into MMA. Anytime I would get a newly joined boxer I would ask him to spar with all of my guys, round robin, just because I wanted them to humble my guys. After fighters start to feel their nuts after a few cagefight wins, they start getting cocky as shit and lazy. They start thinking they can beat boxers and that their standup is perfect. The boxers never failed to dish out some humble pie. They always ended up being super popular in the gym and quickly befriended by all my fighters arguing over time with the boxer.

You guys need to understand sheer bone density and weight/power better. Clay Matthews of the Green Bay Packers would kill Rhonda instantly and he is like a white belt in MMA last time I checked.
are your mma fighters allowed to go for takedowns when they spar your boxers

James Toney, he was shot by then in all fairness, tried to switch over to UFC. He got beat in the quickness

For those sparring drills, no. It was just striking practice. I would separate striking from groundwork, then later combine the two. When the 2 boxers joined up I let them just do standup with my guys the first day just to teach my guys a lesson. Practices after that would be normal schedule. As an instructor it is good to let a special guests/new members teach something that the others they otherwise would not get on their own. In the past I have even sent off guys to boxing gyms for a month or two, just to break some of their bad habits. If someone they do not know keeps hitting them over their mistakes they usually figure it out and stop it.

I even once invited a 4th dan Karate black belt from Japan to spar with my guys. They were drooling when they saw his thin kimono gi and black belt. Each of them lost to him in sparring. 3 of them he KO'd. He even told them take downs were okay because he wanted the extra practice in defending it!

Sometimes telling guys to respect traditional styles goes in one ear and out the other...
an eye opening anecdote there. as a hardcore boxing fan with little knowledge on mma I believed the playing field would become even once take downs were allowed

I once saw a Shamrock interview where he stated striking is the most efficient way to take someone out.
 

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Solus said:
TravelerKai said:
Solus said:
One solid leg kick lands from an elite male MMA fighter and Floyd is basically done. None of them would even try to punch him from the outset irrespective of weight class.

Ronda on the other hand would get destroyed.

Not necessarily true. Floyd is an extremely well conditioned athlete. Look at his legs and the legs of a pro soccer player. Almost the same look right? If a pro Muay Thai Fighter give them or Floyd one good kick (if it didn't miss), you cannot say for 100% that they would instantly drop. Well the soccer player would if it was a soccer match because they like to flop, but I have personally squeezed their legs to know how hard they are (don't ask why). In a street fight it would hurt them for sure, because it just does, but that is not a guarantee drop. Can they take 2 or 3 chops to the legs? Probably not.

Don't get me wrong those kicks are dangerous, especially against normal everyday people. Almost all of them definitely cannot take even one kick, which is why Muay Thai is arguably alot better for street defense than BJJ would be. Short term at least until age and health becomes an issue.

I see what you're saying but I doubt Floyd is conditioned to take/check kicks because there's no reason for him to be. I'm not talking about aesthetics/muscles. Soccer players have strong legs, no doubt, but I don't think it's the same.

I should have specified that a single leg kick might not put Floyd out but would rather do at least enough damage to allow the MMA fighter to grab a hold of him and drag him down. Needless to say if the MMA fighter lands a few more then yeah, I'd say it's game over.

However let's not get too far off topic.

Ronda Rousey isn't beating Floyd Mayweather unless Dana White blindsides him with a steel chair WWE-style.

All this stuff is relevant to this topic. Boxing is actually PART OF MMA! Every MMA fighter and their momma is cross training with Freddie Roach these days! MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts.

Rhonda does too! Why do you think she made this absurd statement?

You are making the mistake of thinking Rhonda or any MMA fighter in general can land a clean leg kick on Floyd to begin with! They are not fighting in a phone booth. If Floyd has at least 3 feet distance to work with, he will step back on any kick attempt and look at the dude like, really?! He is so fast, he could literally dash out and dash back in for a kidney/body shot, while the kick is being done. Very few UFC fighters are capable of doing this. I used to teach that technique to all my fighters in my early years as an instructor until I realized most humans are not that fast physically or hand eye coordination wise to do it well.

Jose Aldo is probably the fastest and powerful Muay Thai kicker in the UFC right now, pound for pound. Pound for pound Mirko Cro Cop, Wanderlei Silva, Anderson Silva or Fedor, and Allistair Overeem can fill that top 5 of fast and powerful Muay Thai kicking. And they are all too slow to even kick Floyd but they all kick faster than Rhonda though!

You have to understand Muay Thai. You cannot force someone to eat a kick if you are not in a very small ring. Otherwise you will have to wear them down first or time it perfectly against an aggressive opponent. Everyone knows Floyd's style. He is super crafty and slick. He always establishes range first. He is a defensive-counter fighter he is not aggressive at all.

Edit: Anderson Silva in his prime probably could kick Floyd in open space, but no one can know that for certain. Same thing for Aldo.
 
Mayweather would absolutely destroy her in any fighting situation. Anyone who doesn't think that is an idiot.

And his comment was hilarious.
 

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an eye opening anecdote there. as a hardcore boxing fan with little knowledge on mma I believed the playing field would become even once take downs were allowed

I once saw a Shamrock interview where he stated striking is the most efficient way to take someone out.

Takedowns don't mean shit if you cannot even grab or hit the person. Look at it this way, a takedown is an open-handed punch. If you can touch someone, you can punch someone. If you can punch them, you can also grab them.

All forms of JuJitsu (Brazilian or Japanese and including Judo), is based upon distance and position. You must be within range or understand what your options are at various length of all body parts. Positioning is mandatory in order to properly execute the desired technique. Without both you cannot properly execute.

Let me break down a basic Judo technique into it's advanced parts for you. Notice when watching Rhonda she always uses her front toe to inch her way to always be between her opponents legs? That is because most Judoka must maintain that kind of position in order to execute damn near 80% of the throws that exist in Judo's system.

Most Judo/jujitsu people know this because it is basic stuff by purple/red belt level. What makes her Olympic/competition level quality is because she does not telegraph her inching easily and lets opponents either get too close before switching to a toe stance or she runs at them then switches stance when she gets close. If you want to see super elite sneaky footwork watch Japan's female Judoka Kaori Matsumoto videos. Sometimes I have to rewind back multiple times when looking at her vids.

Floyd, being the season pro that he is, if he had the time to prepare for a fight, he would watch her film and notice the same things. This is conjecture on my part, but I think he is smart enough to notice because boxers do this too, except they throw hooks instead of grabbing people for throws. Boxers are foot work crazy. I have spent enough time around former pros and golden gloves boxers to see the amount of time they spend drilling it and studying it.

Floyd would study her footwork style just enough to get an idea of what kind of range she is working with and what kinds of techniques she favors in certain foot positions. He would also probably take guesses about her weight distribution and where the best punches will knock her off balance for proper follow up combinations.

Rhonda could study Floyd's film longer than I have and still not be able to deal with him. That's why others fail to beat him. Speed kills.

I wonder if she could even beat Kaori Matsumoto if she could drop weight low enough. I would say no because she is not fast enough and not technically sound enough. Rhonda excelled in Judo in large part because she was in the 70kg weight division and has more power than most women even in that weight class.
 

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TravelerKai said:
Cr33pin said:
There was a little guy at my old gym that stood about 5'7" at best and weighted about 125lbs. He was a Judo brown belt and knew his shit. We would get all types of guys coming to the gym for various reasons and bet them they couldn't take that little guy down. They all laughed, some were wrestlers, muay thai, mma, bjj, ect. They would get into the ring with the little guy and he would throw them around like a sack of potatoes. Wrestlers always went the hardest, the would just lock up with him right off the bat and then they would be on the ground embarrassed as shit. Ronda Rousey is a Olympic level Judo player and a freakish athlete as far as women go. I'm pretty sure she could close the distance and throw Money Mayweather on his ass and submit him. I don't think Meisha Tate or Gina Carano or really any other female MMA fighter would be able to do so, but I think in MMA rules Ronda gets the win.

No way dude. Sorry. Floyd would knock out most of the pro MMA fighters I have trained over the years. The only ones he could never beat are probably my heavyweights (230+lbs) and he maybe would not beat an elite 170 pounder I used to train due to his black belt in BJJ and brown belt in Judo and sheer number/quality of wins in his record.

I doubt Rhonda could even beat me. I have a black belt in BJJ and Traditional Judo, Japanese Ju Jitsu, and 10+ years of Muay Thai experience. Not to mention I weigh alot more than she does.

The thing you guys are not understanding is the sheer speed at which Floyd can fight at. Rhonda would be knocked out while standing and subsequently collapse while Floyd had already dashed back and switched his stance/feet twice, while she is still falling mid air...

That kind of foot speed is WORLD CLASS speed. Any real fighter or trainer knows this. He would dot her eyes so quickly she would never have a chance to be able to grab his arms or body for a takedown. If they started on the ground she could beat him for sure. If they started on feet, he would destroy her immediately. He would destroy 98% of the world's population in a fight. He could not beat any of those world strongest men guys unless they kneel down and let him punch them.

An old Chinese gong fu master told me when I was a young man, that the Chinese have a saying, "Power will always be number 1 and weight equals power. Technique is number 2." MMA fighters such as myself have more than 50 pounds on her. Our bones are super dense because we have many times more testosterone than she does. We have cured our fists, elbows, and knees using Muay Thai. A good punch from us would shatter her orbital bone.

Floyd is no different. He has broken his fingers from hitting other MEN in the face so hard recently. Our bone density means alot as men.

You know I have had a few ameuter boxers on my teams cross over into MMA. Anytime I would get a newly joined boxer I would ask him to spar with all of my guys, round robin, just because I wanted them to humble my guys. After fighters start to feel their nuts after a few cagefight wins, they start getting cocky as shit and lazy. They start thinking they can beat boxers and that their standup is perfect. The boxers never failed to dish out some humble pie. They always ended up being super popular in the gym and quickly befriended by all my fighters arguing over time with the boxer.

I agree that speed is under-rated. I took japanese jiu jitsu as a young man and once our instructor had his junior sensei's from japan (I can't remember the japanese word pai-sensei?) come to visit. He was this little guy with a beat up, sweat and blood stained gi but when he demonstrated techniques you couldn't even see them they were so fast. It was like you could see him step to setup a move and then the other guy was on the ground and locked up, there was no fluid motion it was just like "snap snap, submit" the same with a good boxer, a jab looks like they shrugged their trap and the other guy got magical whiplash.
 

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I noticed the feminists in the media here were talking about this today, and spun it into being how 'out of touch' he was to not have heard of her, because she 'revolutionised the sport' and 'OMG doesn't he see her vagina?'
 
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