Meet The World's Latest Self-Made Multi-Billionaire: Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos

SamuelBRoberts said:
I dunno, I can't see this chick having the guts to skip bail and spend the rest of her life in some sunny non-extradition country. (Does that even work anymore?)

She just seems like a generic, nasty little thot to me.

Yeah - she could have already fled the country - there are enough places where she wouldn't be extradited at least for crimes like fraud. Question is whether she has enough cash stashed away and to be honest - she seems way too deluded and fixed in her ways - she thinks that she can con her way out of that and fleeing to Argentina, never coming back to the US, never even visiting an airport - that sounds too far off.

It's possible that she never even put aside much cash since she truly believed in the miraculous "Theranos-missile-Wunderwaffe" that could turn things around last-minute. That again would make her "she-deluded-and-unaware-defense" stronger.
 

BURNΞR

Pelican
Agnostic
Countries with no extradition treaty with US:
African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial.
Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,
Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

There's some good places. I wouldn't mind bouncing between China Russia and Moldova. Qatar and Saudi Arabia aren't bad either.

USA has crazy reach tho. Worst place to commit a crime.
 
[/quote] By the way. Check out the first couple of pages in this thread. Everyone was cheering her on and even many Would Bangs lol.
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The thirst is REAL, amigo.
 
Simeon_Strangelight said:
SamuelBRoberts said:
I dunno, I can't see this chick having the guts to skip bail and spend the rest of her life in some sunny non-extradition country. (Does that even work anymore?)

She just seems like a generic, nasty little thot to me.

Yeah - she could have already fled the country - there are enough places where she wouldn't be extradited at least for crimes like fraud. Question is whether she has enough cash stashed away and to be honest - she seems way too deluded and fixed in her ways - she thinks that she can con her way out of that and fleeing to Argentina, never coming back to the US, never even visiting an airport - that sounds too far off.

It's possible that she never even put aside much cash since she truly believed in the miraculous "Theranos-missile-Wunderwaffe" that could turn things around last-minute. That again would make her "she-deluded-and-unaware-defense" stronger.

I can't think of any bitch who actually ran off to save her hide. I just don't think they have it in them to do so--it takes imagination, risk, and of course it's just too hard.
 
Countries with no extradition treaty with US:
African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial.
Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,
Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

There's some good places. I wouldn't mind bouncing between China Russia and Moldova. Qatar and Saudi Arabia aren't bad either.

USA has crazy reach tho. Worst place to commit a crime.

Argentina is great for European economic criminals, but it seems that the US has a different reach.

Maybe the Chinese will take her and she can put her flawless Mandarin to good use :)

But from what I hear - China accepts mainly their own Chinese-heritage fraudsters. And she can forget nabbing a rich Chinese local - as a 35yo leftover woman.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Not having an extradition treaty does not equal "will not extradite".

Is just means the nation is not obligated by treaty law to concede to a request. It's more to protect their local elites. They're not going to white knight for some random cunt on the run.

Maybe if she sucks the right Moldovan dicks she'll be OK.
 

Abelard Lindsey

Woodpecker
I was going to say that not having a formal extradition treaty does not necessarily mean they will not extradite. Indonesia used to be on the list here. However, they probably would honor a U.S. government request for extradition for crimes that offend their own sensibilities or if they are doing some other negotiation with the U.S.

Note that nearly all of these countries on your list are barely functional Sub-Saharan African countries. These are places you are at risk of dying due to anything from local insurgents and petty warlords to snake bits or being mauled by lions. I'm surprised to see Micronesia on this list.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Catholic
Gold Member
BlueMark said:
Somebody nominate this guy for Beta of the Year award over at Chateau Heartiste.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/06/famil...-fiance-worry-she-has-brainwashed-him-source/

Sources told The Post that Evans’ image-conscious parents, William and Susan ... are flabbergasted by their son’s decision to marry Holmes.

(Evans, his family and Holmes did not respond to requests for comment.)

“His family is like, ‘What the f–k are you doing?’ It’s like he’s been brainwashed. [He says,] ‘The media has it all wrong about her,’” said one San Francisco techie.

“He’s had a lot people very close to him sit him down and have a talk,” the colleague said, before cataloging the litany of warnings given to Evans.

“‘This could be the biggest mistake you’ll ever make.’ ‘The negativity around her could blow back on you.’ ‘You’ve never encountered anything like this.’ ‘You need to think hard about what you’re doing.’ ”


Still, the couple is undeterred.

“It’s kind of like Billy is her shiny new toy. She’s super enthusiastic about being with him,” the colleague said.

“The relationship is opportunistic for the both of them. Elizabeth needs a lot of support in her life right now, and Billy is looking for whatever way he can raise his profile.”

Even if that way is through a pariah.

A relationship with Holmes “will destroy your social value,” the colleague added. “But you will get something else in return” — namely, fame.

Before Holmes, the 6-foot-4 Evans was a playboy with a mission.

“I met two of his ex-girlfriends. They were both Instagram models, and he was super proud of that fact,”
the colleague said. “He would date young, absolutely drop-dead-gorgeous girls [with big followings].”

The colleague added that Evans religiously tracked his social-media followers and likes. (Since news broke of his and Holmes’ relationship, Evans appears to have deactivated his Instagram and Facebook accounts.)

If an alpha cucks in a mansion, does he make a sound?
 

Bienvenuto

Pelican
Gold Member
BlueMark said:
Somebody nominate this guy for Beta of the Year award over at Chateau Heartiste.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/06/famil...-fiance-worry-she-has-brainwashed-him-source/

Sources told The Post that Evans’ image-conscious parents, William and Susan ... are flabbergasted by their son’s decision to marry Holmes.

(Evans, his family and Holmes did not respond to requests for comment.)

“His family is like, ‘What the f–k are you doing?’ It’s like he’s been brainwashed. [He says,] ‘The media has it all wrong about her,’” said one San Francisco techie.

“He’s had a lot people very close to him sit him down and have a talk,” the colleague said, before cataloging the litany of warnings given to Evans.

“‘This could be the biggest mistake you’ll ever make.’ ‘The negativity around her could blow back on you.’ ‘You’ve never encountered anything like this.’ ‘You need to think hard about what you’re doing.’ ”


Still, the couple is undeterred.

“It’s kind of like Billy is her shiny new toy. She’s super enthusiastic about being with him,” the colleague said.

“The relationship is opportunistic for the both of them. Elizabeth needs a lot of support in her life right now, and Billy is looking for whatever way he can raise his profile.”

Even if that way is through a pariah.

A relationship with Holmes “will destroy your social value,” the colleague added. “But you will get something else in return” — namely, fame.

Before Holmes, the 6-foot-4 Evans was a playboy with a mission.

“I met two of his ex-girlfriends. They were both Instagram models, and he was super proud of that fact,”
the colleague said. “He would date young, absolutely drop-dead-gorgeous girls [with big followings].”

The colleague added that Evans religiously tracked his social-media followers and likes. (Since news broke of his and Holmes’ relationship, Evans appears to have deactivated his Instagram and Facebook accounts.)

She's so fricking ugly.

I think it was Tucker Carlson who said that we have the least impressive elites in history.

Certainly that documentary on viewing lent to that impression.

Especially the hagiographical treatment of the two middle aged 'journalists' who hadn't seen to raise any concerns during their coverage of her.

Seemed like a convergence of blue blood: ex-Deep state luminaries, Big Tech and the Obama crew.
Schulz's grandson and his fishbone arms freaked me out a little, his non-biceps were like a symbol of the elite's non-need to engage with reality.
Just wear a t-shirt to interviews and show off those pipe-cleaner arms anyway like any normal looking person.
They seemed especially disposed to being conned.

So it doesn't surprise me greatly that another messed up issue of that clan commits death-by-engagement to that solid 4, Ms Holmes.

From beginning to end of that doc she came across as.. lost, lonely and loopy.
Hardly any variance.
For all her chutzpah and their corresponding confidence it seems that the Globo-homo crowd just aren't very socially aware.

This guy is less Beta and more just plain Gamma/ Diminished responsibility.
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
Not having an extradition treaty does not equal "will not extradite".

Is just means the nation is not obligated by treaty law to concede to a request. It's more to protect their local elites. They're not going to white knight for some random cunt on the run.

Maybe if she sucks the right Moldovan dicks she'll be OK.

From what I understood is that those countries without a treaty usually don't extradite economic criminals - con-artist, VAT-tax-scammers, wire-fraud criminals etc.

However when you have done a capital offense then we are talking about something else altogether.

Still - she only had a con going on and if she were at least half-Chinese, then China would welcome her with open arms so long as she has a few million $ coming with her. The mainstream media even wrote an article recently about the number of Chinese-Americans pulling cons off in the US and then moving to China scot-free. Then the Chinese would just show the US the middle finger, take a cut of the robbed cash and that would be the end of it. Can't say that it isn't nice to have a nation state that has your back almost no matter what.
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Countries with no extradition treaty with US:
African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial.
Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,
Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

There's some good places. I wouldn't mind bouncing between China Russia and Moldova. Qatar and Saudi Arabia aren't bad either.

USA has crazy reach tho. Worst place to commit a crime.

That's an incomplete list. Here is the full list:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,
Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.

Source: http://www.wsfa.com/story/22665099/countries-with-no-extradition-treaty-with-us/
 

bgbusiness

Kingfisher
I think this thread has matured and evolved for the better.

If she wanted the money, power, and fame, she should have done what Mackenzie Bezos did and just marry one of those super nerdy guys at Stanford just to divorce later to cash out those stock options. Lol.

Or snatch some highly motivated tech entrepreneurs on their startup in Silicon Valley.
She had the access to both of them.

This girl is same as the instagram thots/models who market themselves living the lavish life, but behind the veil, they are broke AF.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
Status update - they set a date for a "status hearing" (start date for the trial?) for July 1st.

In spite of adding a boyfriend, it looks like public opinion is souring on her the more time passes. From the article:

"She's been seen galavanting around San Francisco and Silicon Valley, going to dinner parties with her fiancé," Wall Street Journal reporter John Carreyrou said on CNBC Monday. " ... Clearly she's behaving like nothing is wrong."

She's going to have a hell of a time convincing a jury that she was so clueless since, after all, she was the genius whiz kid too smart to wait until graduation to postpone the project she started in her dorm room. She had it all figured out and was waaay ahead of all those oafish corporate dinosaurs in the blood testing industry. And if she tries that fake deep voice hit in court a cross examination by a half-competent attorney should be able to chew her to pieces, exposing her as an even bigger fraud.

She still has a pussy pass, but even then if she doesn't do any time at all for this not a lot of people will be cheering.
 

Abelard Lindsey

Woodpecker
I think Elizabeth Holmes is going to get crucified. There will be no "pussy pass" for her.

Her crimes are not limited to "conning" investors. She deceived health regulators (both CA and Fed) and endangered patients. She also put her attorney up to threatening doctors (in Arizona) who did blood testing for patients with competing test labs (LabCorp, etc.) because they did not trust the results of the Theranos tests. Some of these were cancer patients who were using the results of blood tests to determine course of treatment. This is patient endangerment and is considered very serious by the regulatory authorities and the courts. She also deceived the CA health inspectors twice by taking them through the bogus lab she had set up specifically to deceive them. Government regulators do NOT like being lied to and deceived in this manner. I would be very surprised she does not do down for these things.

Personally I think David Boies, the high powered attorney who was on Therano's board and who went around intimidating the doctors (and at least one patient!) in Arizona with legal action (this is well documented in the Carryrou book) if they said anything questionable about the validity of Theranos test results should be disbarred at minimum. I doubt this will happen, though.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
I doubt that too, though a lot of the things he did that were detailed in that book definitely did not pass the smell test. His behavior didn't seem ethical, to put it mildly.

Disbarment usually requires a lawyer rip off money from a client trust account or maybe lie to a judge on something material, like Bill Clinton did. Boies could be fined or censured would be the most I'd ever expect, if even that.
 

BlueMark

Woodpecker
Gold Member
The real story here is why the media was so reluctant to put her under a microscope and ask easy questions like about her voice or her Mandarin language ability.

Unfortunately they will not be tried in the court of public opinion. They will go on to tout the next snake oil salesman (or saleswoman) and the gullible public will continue to lap it up.
 
Trial is in over a year. Meanwhile she will be enjoying the high-life.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/28/theranos-founder-elizabeth-holmes-to-stand-trial-in-2020/

[img=640x480]https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/GettyImages-1158881763.jpg?w=1390&crop=1[/img]

There she goes the goofy shiksa with her Jewish lawyers - heh. I wonder what voice she will use at the trial?

She is facing 20 years behind bars. I still have my doubts regarding a fair trial when women are conerned. Her Indian ex may get more prison tim than she.

It reminded me that her entire idea was the equivalent version of the VAPOORIZER in that movie with Jack Black:


That too would be a billion-dollar-idea with only one issue: we don't know how to make it work. Get to it science guy, I will hire two teams to work on it, that will raise their motivation, give me a trifle seed capital of 700 mio. $ to start, give me a penthouse and a private jet on standby, and Bilzerian's R&R B-team and I shall work on that DOG SHIT PRODUCT for a decade too.

The difference of course being that I will be honest about the progress.

Nothing .... nothing .... ah nothing..... nothing so far - but hey - if it works, then you will make billions per year, so keep on funding my penthouse and my 10 bikini-assistants.

By the way - the VOOPIRIZER PRODUCT would indeed be partly possible, but it would likely dissolve not only dog poo, but the grass underneath or go straight to your bones if you spill it on yourself. So the difficuluty would be to get a safe and fast dissolver that dissolves only crap - all without using dangerous super-bacteria. The nano-bot-spray is still a long time away for that - most other stuff would be too dangerous to hand to grandmas and 6yo children. So the final product would likely look like a mini-bot who follows your dog and scoops up the crap for you - or a drone that comes and takes the crap away for you - for a monthly fee. Like the Rick and Morty butter-bot:

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And that is me sitting at it for 3 minutes - like Icarus here in the thread - he had some idea bout the technology and knew that other companies were researching it, so he instantly understood that this sounds too good to be true for her to come up with such a complex issue. Some things are developed by mavericks while others take giant billion dollar teams of scientists to solve.
 

Abelard Lindsey

Woodpecker
Fuck the wired fraud charges. These were sophisticated investors who put money into Theranos. That they did no due diligence is their own damn fault. What Holmes really needs to be charged with is patient endangerment. Patients with serious medical issues made treatment decisions based on the results of flawed tests. This is what she really should be going to the slammer for.
 
The mainstream did extensive documentaries now - delving deep into her past and the product now.

Guess defrauding all those wealthy people opened full hunting season.


It's interesting that she the heir of a former billionaire family that had squandered the money. They were still the equivalent billionaires 100 years ago. They ended up upper-middle class now, but by no means poor. Still - the issue was galling to her and the family and it seems that the formerly super-rich family was still pining after the good old days of being part of the 0,001%. Being just part of the 1% is nothing.

Also - when you see reports like that you realize how insane and dumbed down the media has become. It's not that good journalists and researchers don't exist - it's just that they are mostly aparatchniks.
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
Although I'm not against a legitimate woman obtaining success. I'm a huge fan of Margret Thacher. I feel like there is a lot of pushing a square peg into a circle hole when it comes to the "elevation" of women in business. This person was lauded as the next Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. She was already made successful before the company really went anywhere. And that goes for raising the impressive amounts of capital. Sure, for the rest of us, raising even $100 for our venture is hard enough. But it was the agenda and the faint promise that she was going to be the first female bill gates that got her that funding. Talk about cart and horse. And the board of theronsos (whatever) was a who's who. Now that's unnerving. There were people on that board that know better than to finance a real investment versus an agenda. Because at the end of the day dreams and "equality" don't produce positive return on investment. Yet these people did it anyway. Its scary because it shows you how far this agenda is willing to push society.

She was literally engineered for success. And she failed. What does that tell you?

As it turns out, she's a fraud. She is a complete and total fuck up and a disgraced asshole who wasted millions/billions of dollars. So, sorry feminists there is no female version of Michael Dell here.

Meanwhile all of society has been reconfigured to produce such a person. This agenda is so pervasive women now outnumber men at college. Naturally, that's another story onto itself. Given all of this energy to promote women (and only women) you'd expect more liz's. But, no. And from what I can see most "notable" women out there are more fluff than actual accomplishment. Its sad. Its not like these women are worthless, indeed, they're bright. But, its easy to see how, for instance, the 30 under 30 or 40 under 40 super stars they pick that are women are kind of only there because they are women. Just recently they awarded a woman for being the top woman investor in public real estate investor trusts. Thing is, she is literally one of a handful of women that are in this space. So, its like this - here's your award you're the best woman of four other woman.

It's like the feminists are trying to hard. This is just getting pathetic and making all women look bad. Its like, relax woman...there will be another Margret Thacher at some point. All of this social engineering has only produced frauds and posers.
 
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