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Some Indian guys are ballers. They usually have more success in academic settings with liberal, blue state, big city/college town women. My buddy is a 2nd gen, very smart, gives wordly vibe, decent looking, long hair, philosophy doctorate. He had a series of very good-looking white GFs, eventually married an EE 8, divorced after 5 years. Being in academia at a top East Cost college, he's fast becoming red pilled.
"Alt Right Latino" troll has a girlfriend with a hard drive full of BBC porn... 
Probably from 4chan.
Probably from 4chan.
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911 said:
You can literally change the word "Indian guys" in your first sentence to any other race...No offense, but what are you trying to say?
That's like saying, "There are exceptions to everything in life...." No shit, bro.
Divorced after 5 years...?
Yeah, you just confirmed what all other people have been talking about here, he seems pretty beta to me if he had to get red pilled fast...and got divorced.
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Chiosboy90 said:
Exactly...I see guys who are like 8s, 9s, struggling to bang 8s and 9s.
The only guys really killing it when they are young are frat boy + athletes in college who have status of 12/10.
Eh I guess it could be done if they had maxed out the things they can control, wealth(f/u money) looks(training in the gym for a few years 4 days a week), status( maybe if they were running a modeling agency or the equivalent)
Even an IRT could bang 8s if they did all of this. But if they are a fresh off the boat IRT with bad English and only approaching the 8s and 9s and then calling in about why are they having such little success, uhhh well irhey have a very long road ahead of them
Even an IRT could bang 8s if they did all of this. But if they are a fresh off the boat IRT with bad English and only approaching the 8s and 9s and then calling in about why are they having such little success, uhhh well irhey have a very long road ahead of them
eradicator said:
Meh, I'm not really surprised though. The dating scene is complex in the US and vastly different from India. Understand that in India, being Indian isn't a negative, having a college degree is a plus, and having an engineering degree even more so. Of course, all these things mean absolutely nothing in the US and possibly even lower your value.
A lot of these guys are probably high up in their communities. Especially the ones that come from smaller towns, where they're the only guys having attended a big city university. Or perhaps they're the ones that attended IITs (Indian Institute of Technology).
Some of you guys may not know this, but if you get accepted into an IIT your picture is published in the newspaper, and often times your face is even put on billboards in your local area. You're basically a local celebrity...for having gotten acceptance in what is India's equivalent of MIT.
It skews your viewpoint on what your SMV will be in the US. So I'm not all that surprised that when Indian guys (straight from India) come to the US, they'd try to game the hottest girls. Especially the ones who've been in the US for only a few years will take a while to learn what the US is like, what their SMV really is and how they can improve it.
Nobody's ever told them the following:
* Being Indian doesn't help you in the US, and is often a negative (they've most likely never realized there is a hierarchy of races). It especially doesn't help that topics about race and the SMP are never discussed publically. It's a PC topic.
* Accent is a negative in the US. Imagine moving to the FSU, Latin America or SEA and finding out your American accent is unattractive and barely comprehensible in the native language.
* Your IT job or engineering degree means shit. Like modern day society is ever going to admit that, they need men to keep working.
* Being skinny fat is unattractive. India doesn't focus much on physical exercise, they prefer their kids to instead excel intellectually. From an arranged marriage point of view, it works tremendously well to put academic/professional success over physical aesthetics. But times be changing, and even in India it's slowly changing.
*.etc.etc.etc.
The reality is that if an American guy doesn't hit on 8s and 9s, it's because he's probably subconsciously aware that she's out of his league. And that comes from having grown up in America and having context of who is and who isn't a high-value man.
A lot of these Indians guys straight from India don't have the same background to contextualize their interactions with. When they hit on 8s and it fails, it literally dumbfounds them. As it should. It'd be weird if these guys weren't dumbfounded.
Imagine going to a foreign country and everything that works in the US (being fit, being white, dressing well, having game, your American accent, your badboy vibe, whatever) has the opposite effect. You'd be dumbfounded too why suddenly you can't get laid in this foreign country.
FWIW, I have significantly better experience gaming in India than in the US (even though I'm not a FOB). Being Indian, and on the shorter side doesn't hurt me at all, having an engineering degree and that too from top universities in the US are seen as a plus. So what works against me in the US has either a positive or neutral effect in India. As a result, just recently, my easiest bang came in India. And had logistics being better, I could've fucked 2-3 more girls the same weekend:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-11951-post-1696071.html#pid1696071
India is supposed to be one of the hardest countries to game in because of the conservative attitudes all around, yet I found it significantly easier than gaming in the US. So I can see why the guys who are coming from India to the US are confused.
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911 said:
But I'm sure he doesn't look like your typical RSD Indian guy with a huge accent. I never ever heard a girl saying she finds Indians or the accent sexy.
I have also a huge accent when speaking English, but Europeans get some bonus points for that.
They are confused that with an Indian accent and another skin color, AND a very different culture, they cant bang hotties? I mean, if we didn't had Internet I would have sympathy, but when you call roosh V you already heard of game at least, so it's beyond me how those guys even ask this questions.
I personally know two Indian guys. One is very blue pill and doesn't want to date women under 9s and 8s. Another one I know from IT is well educated and he knows most women do not like Indian guys. But he is a cool guy and has a big ass social circle and he is in a Christian church. Very smart guy. All his bangs are from social circle/church events. The only way for Indian guys.
I see that self delusion is very high these days.
Lots of employee types slaving for a salary thinking they are 8s.
Lots of employee types slaving for a salary thinking they are 8s.
You mean the bank vp?
Genghis Khan said:
I am going to disagree with you on this one. I've found women tend to be attracted to most accents, be it foreign or US regional. If something is different, yet intelligible, they tend to be attracted to it. There are exceptions of course, the unintelligible Indian accent seems to be pound-for-pound the biggest turn off for women and men around my neck of the woods. It is highly stressful when someone asks you a half a dozen times to slow down and enunciate and you still can't understand them. It is hard enough to deal with it at work, I can only image how hard it would be to handle it from someone who is trying to get in your pants.
eradicator said:
Not to pick specifically on that guy specifically whomever he is... But being a corporate drone sometimes goes along with a very specific type of thinking. Online it says the average bank vp salary is 72K. (VP in a bank is the hr word inflation for supervisor). That caller represented the essence of being trapped in a blue pill thinking it's red because he once watched Asian porn.
This guy says he makes "a lot of money." So maybe his branch is paying DOUBLE the national average and he makes 144K for arguments sake. What is a "lot of money?"
A lot compared to his customers who have $54 average balance and pay lots of $39 fees to keep his salary and benefits going?
The guy is clearly not into his job he just thinks he has a good respectable high paying job that he can flaunt his resume to girls to impress them. Sorry no one is impressed outside the confines of the lower level employees at that same bank.
I bet his dates are like reading his linkedin profile. Well in 1999 I did this extra program college and got a ribbon, in 2013 I was promoted from partial vice president to mostly vice president and so on.
I'm not saying someone doesn't need to do the work of the bank (well actually that's a subject for another day since block chain actually makes this guy pretty useless) but when your life is constructed around and heavily invested in a certain lifestyle you need a girl who is equally invested in it and doesn't simply look at you as a paycheck (hard to do when looking at oneself as such.)
Then, as a result this type of person gets stuck with the dichotomy American girl professional vs Philippine slave girl. That's like asking:
Should I get with a fill in the blank employee / vp /attorney girl who will see me as a resume that hasn't been fully filled out yet and needs to be pushed to ever more promotions to squeeze out more from the corporate dribble in order to raise our children in the fear filled, striving for more Chinese drywall house suburb, devoid of any actual attraction or real interest in you as a human being, or should I get with a third world slave girl who sees me as an already sufficient source of revenue to pay for her needs, shopping, family back home, and in exchange get foot rubs, compliant sex, dishes washed, and a fecund and willing birth canal devoid of any actual attraction or real interest in you as a human being.
What's the difference?
IvanDrago said:
Well yeah, I was specifically talking about Indian accents. Like I said, the chances are high nobody has ever told Indian FOB guys that their accent is hurting them.
(Some exceptions apply. I know guys who talk like Shashi Tharoor, who talks with a sophicated, almost British accent. But of course we're talking here about the Fobby guys who are struggling with women).
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Genghis Khan said:
GK is right. There is a difference between some sexy accent and all out not being able to communicate. Nothing ruins an interaction more than not being able to understand someone when the attention span is already weak.
Off The Reservation said:
Americans love a British accent. Don't make me play the clip of Love Actually where Colin goes to Milwaukee. All American women are like that.
If you are French, or British and in the USA and have a thick accent, you will probably clean up. India? Not so much.
Not to derail the thread but I want the Philippine slave girl.
Atlanta Man said:
Not to give the game away, but check under the tree Christmas 2018.