#Metalgate is here
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For guys who might have kids over the next decade. How can you justify bringing your son into this world? this shit is only going to get worse and infest everything from media to education.
A young impressionable boy has no chance in this climate.
A young impressionable boy has no chance in this climate.
Anyone at a mainstream festival should have seen the writing on the wall.
Consider Coachella this year, Motorhead's set.
When Lemmy came out, the first ten rows were millennials telling people to 'stop moshing' so they could 'get a better view' and 'take pictures'
That shit lasted ten seconds.
Consider Coachella this year, Motorhead's set.
When Lemmy came out, the first ten rows were millennials telling people to 'stop moshing' so they could 'get a better view' and 'take pictures'
That shit lasted ten seconds.
I used to be a metal journalist. This is going to be funny.
opcorn:
opcorn:
Metal is such a diverse realm. It attracts some of the most fucked up people you'll ever meet and some of the chillest.
Bands sing about fighting dragons, politics, butchering sluts and masturbating with their shit. Tons of bands are nazis and 90% of black metal is dudes making shit in their basement. This will affect no one.
Even though the scene has been invaded with dickless hipsters and scene queens trying to make metal politically correct is like trying to invade Russia in the winter.
I'll just leave some shit here:
Some nice tunes about fucking a chick with a videotape then raping them to death... or something.
Hung out with these guys and they're super cool, but they used to desecrate graves and do satanic rituals in ross bay Victoria
vocalist was a hardcore druggie for 30 years and married an 19 year old groupie.
This guy stabbed a member of another band a fuck ton of times, burnt down a church, 20 years in jail and I think hes a Nazi.
The live performances of this band involve the lead singer cutting himself and singing until he nearly bleeds out.
Thats not even scraping the surface and just a few from off the top of my head.
In short, this is laughable.
Bands sing about fighting dragons, politics, butchering sluts and masturbating with their shit. Tons of bands are nazis and 90% of black metal is dudes making shit in their basement. This will affect no one.
Even though the scene has been invaded with dickless hipsters and scene queens trying to make metal politically correct is like trying to invade Russia in the winter.
I'll just leave some shit here:
Some nice tunes about fucking a chick with a videotape then raping them to death... or something.
Hung out with these guys and they're super cool, but they used to desecrate graves and do satanic rituals in ross bay Victoria
vocalist was a hardcore druggie for 30 years and married an 19 year old groupie.
This guy stabbed a member of another band a fuck ton of times, burnt down a church, 20 years in jail and I think hes a Nazi.
The live performances of this band involve the lead singer cutting himself and singing until he nearly bleeds out.
Thats not even scraping the surface and just a few from off the top of my head.
In short, this is laughable.
Kamikaze
Woodpecker
The real question is, what should the battle cry for metalheads be? My vote goes to Manowar, "Hail and Kill," with one of the greatest lyrics in all of music history:
"May your swords be wet - like a young girl in her prime. Hold... your... ha-mmers hiiiiiiiiiigh" Pure poetry.
Keep your swords wet, metalheads. This won't last long for the SJWs.
"May your swords be wet - like a young girl in her prime. Hold... your... ha-mmers hiiiiiiiiiigh" Pure poetry.
Keep your swords wet, metalheads. This won't last long for the SJWs.
Praetor Lupus
Pelican
Some more fuel for the fire, with my favourite video of the year.
Praetor Lupus said:
Rock bottom: why Mastodon's misogynistic new video misfires
I thought metal music was edging away from a culture of crass sexism – but then I watched Mastodon’s new ‘satirical’ video
You may or may not have seen the new Mastodon video, The Motherload. The song itself is brilliant – the best one on the album by a mile, with a tune the size of Cthulhu’s balls – and the album has been a huge success, both commercially and critically. This video, however, is extremely confusing, particularly for those of us who regard ourselves as politically enlightened. Aside from the band miming gainfully along to their song, it features a startling and (almost) comically OTT quantity of large female bottoms and frenzied twerking, much as we might expect to see in one of those high budget hip-hop or pop videos. It is what those of us who lean to the left on such matters generally regard as “a bit sexist”. And I’m being generous to Mastodon here.
But no, Dom, I hear you cry, it’s not sexist. It’s funny! Look at those vibrating butt-cheeks! Brilliant. It’s probably ironic or something. Well, no. It’s still sexist. I don’t care how much irony you throw at this. It was sexist when it happened in past videos and it’s still sexist now. The fact that Mastodon are an ostensibly bright bunch and very much not from the heavy metal old school – where, back in the hallowed day, sexism was widely tolerated – is not a sufficient get-out clause by any stretch. Neither is this video excused from being tarred with the sexist brush because a proportion of women immersed in alternative culture have decided that it’s OK.
When Front magazine closed down a few months ago, there was a faintly hysterical online debate about its merits (or lack of them) and one of the things I kept reading was people defending the magazine’s principal diet of tattooed tits on the basis that providing pierced and Hitler-fringed teens with wank fodder was somehow not the same thing as what those awful, awful people at Nuts and Zoo did in their filthy rags. It was the same thing, obviously, but, you know, I was reliably informed that the girls’ personalities were given a chance to shine in Front … so, it’s different … or something. It wasn’t. I’d much rather people put their hands up and said: “Yeah, it’s sexist but I don’t give a shit!” rather than trying to make out that anyone who objects to this stuff is the enemy of fun and laughter or Millie Tant from Viz.
Just to make sure that it’s not just me being humourless, I had a quick look at the comments underneath the video on YouTube. Some generous soul was eloquently arguing that the video was “a satire”, ie that somehow this carnival of ululating chuffs was a searing mockery of sexism in popular culture. Anyone with half a brain knows that the vast majority of rap music that’s actually worth listening to seldom resorts to Benny Hill-esque visual tropes. Of course, if Mastodon – or the directors of the video, as seems more likely – are poking fun at hip-hop videos, then hooray for the brave white men lampooning the silly black women, right? I am now deafened by the sound of a giant can of worms being hacked open, so perhaps that’s a debate for another time. But following the outcry triggered by Lily Allen’s Hard out Here video, and Taylor Swift’s Shake It Off, did anyone involved in this thing expect its content and tone to be overlooked? Was there any thought involved in the whole process? I genuinely don’t know and it’s making my brain hurt.
While there are enough genuinely horrifying things happening in the world at the moment, without me getting stressed about a metal band’s poor creative decisions and low-rent sense of humour, it does irritate me, because heavy music has spent the last few decades steadily edging away from an overriding culture of crass misogyny and making the whole scene a lot more welcoming and palatable to women in the process. Twenty years ago, women were a tiny minority at metal shows but things have changed dramatically in recent times and metal is all the better for it.
Of course, one stupid video isn’t going to halt that progress. But I can’t help thinking that the whole tawdry episode is a terrible shame. If we’ve arrived at a place in the evolution of our culture where blatant, idiotic and utterly pointless sexism can be airily dismissed as “a bit of a laugh”, then clearly we have much further to go than previously thought.
This was the answer from one of the actual dancers in the video
Mastodon "The Motherload" and The Only Opinion That Counts
Mastodon "The Motherload" and The Only Opinion That Counts
Praetor Lupus
Pelican
Yeah, I saw the responses to the video when I was Googling trying to find out what the fuck was supposed to be going on. I felt a sense of relief when I learnt that it wasn't a satire or political commentary, and that in fact it really was as random as it first appeared.
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CJ_W
Pelican
runsonmagic said:
That and Rap already had its "feminist movement" move against it back in the 90's. . .
I mean this was even before the internet, and all this backlash was on mainstream TV, EVERYBODY heard/knew about it and. . .
it did nothing in all actuality. I don't know if anyone remembered that, but yeah there was a huge backlash against rap, especially when rappers were referring to women as "bitches/hoes"and putting "objectified" women in their video Thing is, rappers kept rapping the same thing, and young women who were desperate for attention and Alpha cock lined up to get in those vids, and still do. There's this hot 8.5 Asian girl on my facebook feed that was bragging about the dance part she got in a rapper's vid. . .and yes she was dancing/dressed slutty etc. . .she got tons of comments from girls like "congrats" etc etc. . .
The only thing that really came out of that movement was the rise of "conscious rap". some good artists came out of that i.e. Talib Kweli, common (even though I REALLY don't like common), and Mf Doom/quasimoto. That genre of rap just doesn't sell as well as the mainstream "bitches and hoez" demographic does.
IF the feminists get anywhere with metal (that's a big IF since people after all are pretty much awake and tired of SJW bullshit after the recent gamergate/uva events etc)it would AT MOST, have the same impact as what happened with rap in the 90's. . .nothing at all.
Brian Boru
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