Michael Jackson Appreciation Thread

Good day my fellow men, I haven't seen a thread dedicated to the best pop artist, so I decided to fix this. Post everything about MJ, your favorite songs and albums, rare gems, discussion about his persona, pedophilia allegations, his involvement with (((the powers that be))) and why (or if) they killed him.

My favorite songs are ...

Why You Wanna Trip On Me

Xscape

She Drives Me Wild

Rare gems ...

2000 Watts, in which he sings with his regular singing voice, not the high nasal voice

Morphine, dark industrial pop with harsh voice shifting to classical melody with melancholic and soft voice

I believe that MJ was a good man, that he was either not a pedophile or was one but became normal and created a haven (Neverland Ranch) for kids that were also abused by the satanic pedophilia Hollywood circles.

He owned half of Sony Music Entertainment with Elvis Presley's, The Beatles' and his own music catalogues. His own label wanted to liquidate him because he had too much financial power and cultural influence, especially after he parted with Quincy Jones, who wanted for MJ to do Hip Hop music and started his completely own thing during the decade shift from the 80s to the 90s. (((They))) slowly killed him psychologically, what lead to his physical death also. He became extremely paranoid after the allegations (exactly the time where he put out his first album he created without Quincy Jones), Sony wanted his half (estimated $ 2 billion a that time) and sabotaged him in many ways, and this is why he got hooked on drugs and other self-destructive habits, as it is and was with people in the entertainment business.

If you know something about backmasking, then you know that some famous artists create songs that have a coherent text when you play it backwards. If I'm not mistaken it is an ancient evil occult practice reintroduced by Aleister Crowley and became popular with songs of The Beatles or Led Zeppelin. All Artists I've listened to their songs in reverse have sinister, prophetic, and subversive lyrics, MJ's on the other hand have lyrics that predict his disappearance (or death), to not trust the powers that be, and to believe on the Lord and God. But there are some backmasking lyrics that are weird and sinister, but my point is that not all are like that and convey a good message.

 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
There is no doubt there is an appeal to MJ's music, but I think it's part of what the forum is aligned against.

The 80s saw what could be considered in some sense a classic era of American culture. Things that come to mind: Steven Spielberg films, Back 2 The Future, Tiffany, Top Gun, masculine kids cartoons, Michael Jackson.

If you are looking at these things from the perspective of today with obese whales twerking on stage, pop stars promoting prostitution and Milley and her dildos, this stuff can all look innocent. But it's not.

The 80s reached a point where the cultural icons were typically aesthetically pleasing. Men were typically masculine, or at least not soy; and women were usually somewhat feminine. It was red-pill in that the spoils of materialism flowed to men and women with good genetics.

It's underlying bent is materialism, of the kind that The Republican Party, was adjacent to. It didn't celebrate much if anything we would be highly averse to. But if materialism is the highest value being promoted in the culture, then I would argue you are going to loose the ability to pass on a culture through generations. I want physical things, social status and pleasure are not building blocks for society; and you open the door to the freaks who don't benefit from materialism becoming vengeful. This is what we are now seeing.

On top of the overlay of materialism, the culture manufacturers are stapling all sorts of toxic ideas. We now have people who are often in all manners physically enhanced promoting far-left agendas. There has been somewhat of a merger of the negative themes that were promoted in "alternative" music into mainstream music. The mainstream music stars used to be healthy looking, who promoted materialism but weren't overtly satanic or dark. Now the stars are often dark, promoting depression, unnatural sexuality and using satanic symbols.

I have written about this transition in another thread [https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/is-popular-music-evil.37193/#post-1306945]. It really started about 100 years ago. They wouldn't have been able to drop Nicki Minaj endlessly twerking into the 1920s. It took 100s years of soft peddling to break most people down to not caring their 5 year old children are submerged in all manner of pornography.

On MJ. I distinctly remember seeing his 'Black or White' song for the first time when I was a young child. At the time I though Michael Jackson was some kind of god due to how he was portrayed in music and his films. As a five year old boy my god was already a mentally scrambled peadophille with sexualised lyrics and can't walk a yard without popping his hips. I only vaguely knew what sex was five years later. But my parents did nothing to stop my exposure this, as they had already been dipped into accepting it.

Lyrics for Dirty Diana,

She likes the boys in the band
She knows when they come to town
Every musician's fan after the curtain comes down
She waits at backstage doors
For those who have prestige
Who promise fortune and fame
A life that's so carefree

She's says that's okay
Hey baby do what you want
I'll be your night lovin' thing
I'll be the freak you can taunt
And I don't care what you say
I want to go too far
I'll be your everything
If you make me a star

MJ glorifying banging pop gods like himself in the late 80s. Ben Shapiro's god, Ronald Reagan, didn't mind jumping on that bandwagon.

On his pedophilia. Seems like he may have been castrated as a child and abused by his father. No wonder he was messed up on top of being a major agitator for the materialistic world view. It seems quite open and shut that he was a peadophille; largely of the Elvis bent, which is someone who likes to hang around nude with young children and teens. But it also seemed he was a rapist too.

If you look at so many of these cultural icons, you find hallmarks on wickedness. They are subsumed in materialism and have access to anything they want. Rather than live a happy life disproportionate amounts of celebs end up in sex addiction, martial and family mess, drug rehab, suicide and so on. These are the gods we are given. Physically red-pill, but 100% Satan.

I have largely checked out of modern culture.

Я предпочитаю сербскую музыку.


They could give us this instead:

 
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There is no doubt there is an appeal to MJ's music, but I think it's part of what the forum is aligned against.
I think @Thriller would have a word with you.

The 80s reached a point where the cultural icons were typically aesthetically pleasing. Men were typically masculine, or at least not soy;
Michael Jackson was everything but masculine but he knew how to show himself, this is what made him likeable.

It's underlying bent is materialism, of the kind that The Republican Party, was adjacent to. It didn't celebrate much if anything we would be highly averse to. But if materialism is the highest value being promoted in the culture, then I would argue you are going to loose the ability to pass on a culture through generations.
The 80s were not exclusive to this. We may have that impression because multimedia technology reached new highs in the 80s and we have more of that decade because more was thoroughly recorded than in the previous decades. E. Michael Jones said that the biggest vice of the 19th century was greed, and the biggest vice of the 20th century was sexual misconduct, and I agree with him here. If you look at cultures that are stuck in the 19th or early 20th century, you will soon realize those people are envious and greedy as hell. They don't show it as openly as Western cultures do, but when they show it, it is viler than we show it.

I have written about this transition in another thread [https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/is-popular-music-evil.37193/#post-1306945]. It really started about 100 years ago. They wouldn't have been able to drop Nicki Minaj endlessly twerking into the 1920s. It took 100s years of soft peddling to break most people down to not caring their 5 year old children are submerged in all manner of pornography.

As a five year old boy my god was already a mentally scrambled peadophille with sexualised lyrics and can't walk a yard without popping his hips. I only vaguely knew what sex was five years later. But my parents did nothing to stop my exposure this, as they had already been dipped into accepting it.
I don't disagree with you here, and I didn't say MJ was a saint. He was part of the music-industrial-complex and was probably part demon since he was submerged into the business since he could think. At the same time, he showed how untrustworthy the media, how corrupt the music industry and how vile the Jew is. There were a couple recordings of him calling out the Jews for what they are.

On his pedophilia. Seems like he may have been castrated as a child and abused by his father.
If that was the case, he couldn't have slept with any woman, let alone have sexual feelings. He would have been a eunuch or castrato, which he wasn't. He could easily sing in his normal deep voice but he (most of the time) chose not to. It is extremely rare that a man can reach five octaves. His music is a guilty pleasure of mine. Not all of his songs, but in certain songs you can hear that he certainly understood his craft. The harmony of his voice, rhythm, and melody being combined is something unparalleled until this day. I believe MJ was more outcasted than anyone else in his family, that's where he developed more schizoid characteristics. When rehearsing with his band, he kept the talking to a minimum; there weren't many people he got along with.

PS: I'm more of a fan of Serbian war music:

PPS: Or Russian folk music:
 

Robert High Hawk

Kingfisher
I'm 100% pro Michael. Regardless of your thoughts on his person, let's discuss the man's art and his absolutely insane levels of talent. You can always caveat it with your thoughts on his character and message. Hell, even discuss it negatively, but there was so much creativity in that guy. Truly the greatest modern music composer of all time. And his business acumen was incredible too. I think he's a great case study for the forum. Discuss!
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
Crazy how literally any other famous person credibly accused of doing something one-tenth as bad as Jackson’s alleged crimes would have been immediately hated by the culture and probably sent to jail.

Just look what happened to Bill Cosby.

But this guy is credibly accused of literal child rape (not 14-17 year old “children” but actual prepubescent children) and everyone gives him a pass because he’s the “King of Pop.”

I’ll admit I’m not familiar with the specific details of his case, but I have never heard anyone present evidence showing he might not have done it. Didn’t he pay millions to his victims just to keep them quiet?
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
But this guy is credibly accused of literal child rape (not 14-17 year old “children” but actual prepubescent children) and everyone gives him a pass because he’s the “King of Pop.”

It runs deep. One of the best pieces of evidence of his proclivities is the Louis Theroux Michael Jackson documentary. In this, a fan of his is interviewed. The fan was set up to meet him and/or have a phone call with him, in the 70s. The fan was about 10 years old, a boy. He reveals how Jackson spoke about masturbation with him. And the fan is completely blase about it. His attitude was "It is what it is." and he stilled liked Jackson. Reality is probably he is proud that the king of hell tried it on with him, in the same way that some young women would go through any degredation to blow some pop star's beans.

In the fallen state women will only have sex with men who they think are better than them. The extreme is these women who seek out the highest status males and extract their attention via sex.


Seems like it. This guy was after any celeb he could get his hands on. Suspected raving poofter.

It's interesting that these often quite feminine pop stars are the modern day equivalent of Ghanghis Khan et. al.

There is a British pop singer named Gary Gliter, whose song was recently used for The Joker. Gliter has been completely thrown under the bus. He's largely been scrubbed. But Jackson is still given a free pass.
 
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Rob Banks

Pelican
It runs deep. One of the best pieces of evidence of his proclivities is the Louis Theroux Michael Jackson documentary. In this, a fan of his is interviewed. The fan was set up to meet him and/or have a phone call with him, in the 70s. The fan was about 10 years old, a boy. He reveals how Jackson spoke about masturbation with him. And the fan is completely blase about it. His attitude was "It is what it is." and he stilled liked Jackson. Reality is probably he is proud that the king of hell tried it on with him, in the same way that some young women would go through any degredation to blow some pop star's beans.

In the fallen state women will only have sex with men who they think are better than them. The extreme is these women who seek out the highest status males and extract their attention via sex.


Seems like it. This guy was after any celeb he could get his hands on. Suspected raving poofter.

It's interesting that these often quite feminine pop stars are the modern day equivalent of Ghanghis Khan et. al.

There is a British pop singer named Gary Gliter, whose song was recently used for The Joker. Gliter has been completely thrown under the bus. He's largely been scrubbed. But Jackson is still given a free pass.
At the 3:04 mark from video:

Interviewer: What do you like most?

Jackson: I like kids.
 
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Regarding the accusations: When you have a ton of money wicked people will plot and scheme against you.

You can mostly tell wicked and evil people from their wicked and evil faces and MJ doesn't have any of those features.

He liked kids because he didn't perceive them as parasites and leeches like most adults that wanted to be around him to get something.

He also was beaten up by his father when he was a kid and maybe even worse things happened.
 
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ilostabet

Pelican
I would suggest watching Razorfist's analysis of the allegations. He is very thorough. He convinced me that Michael was innocent and framed by the real pedos because he was offering a safe haven from them and had too much fuck you money and stardom to go his own way.

Having said that I agree with Gework about pop culture, of which he was an icon.
 

BlastbeatCasanova

Kingfisher
I would suggest watching Razorfist's analysis of the allegations. He is very thorough. He convinced me that Michael was innocent and framed by the real pedos because he was offering a safe haven from them and had too much fuck you money and stardom to go his own way.

Having said that I agree with Gework about pop culture, of which he was an icon.

I used to rip into him and makes jokes when I was younger but these days I tend to lean towards his innocence as well, a lot in part because the media machine does the most in trying to posthumously drag MJ and his legacy through the mud. I think he had execs in the industry gunning for him. Several young stars such as Macualay Culkin maintain that they had a close relationship with him and that he never acted inapproiately. But to be honest, who really knows, it's all speculation unless you're on the inside.
 
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Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
At the 3:04 mark from video:

Interviewer: What do you like most?

Jackson: I like kids.
The biggest problem is that "liking kids" is somehow viewed as sick or evil.

Did MJ just like them in the innocent sense, or did he harm them? I think the bigger question is why someone would recoil at an adult making the statement "I like kids" which most people today would view as troublesome or bad.

I remember talking with an Indian guy in college several years ago and something about a young female child came up. The guy's reaction was very negative that he didn't want to be anywhere near a young child. My response was immediate and alarmed: Why are you uncomfortable being around children? Do you feel drawn to harm them? Are you attracted to children in an unnatural way?

I find it incredibly odd and disturbing that "liking children" is a negative in our society. What's not to like about children? They are pure, innocent, happy, fun, and remind me of my youthful optimism.

The fact that men are rarely sources of authority or role models for children today, and are practically non existent in our schools, is one reason we are in the bad situation we are in. Much like male bonding has been tarred with the derogatory "that's gay", male involvement in anything regarding children is assumed to be some sick sexual attraction. When men can't bond without other men without it being homosexual, and can't interact with children without it being a sexual perversion, the matriarch society takes its place.
 
I remember talking with an Indian guy in college several years ago and something about a young female child came up. The guy's reaction was very negative that he didn't want to be anywhere near a young child. My response was immediate and alarmed: Why are you uncomfortable being around children? Do you feel drawn to harm them? Are you attracted to children in an unnatural way?

He probably had seen the Indian peasant mob murder someone over allegation by some evil Indian harpy or had seen a higher caste guy's life destroyed by (false) allegations.

Higher caste Indians are super reputation concious and people in hot countries generally gossip, libel and slander with reckless abandon.

The upper classes live very "castrated" lives for the lack of better words as they always have staff around and people are always lingering and lurking + there are a lot of crazy and evil Indian harpies that will make up allegations and keep them alive and relevant to get paid off.
 
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