Migrant invasion of Europe

rhino

 
RE: The End of Europe

Fisto said:
This makes me happy we have Mexicans instead.

The worst the US is going to deal with is lousy northern style mexican cuisine and shitty cocaine.


That's a great point. Most Americans, when they hear these news, say "Oh it's just like our situation with Mexicans".

NO, it's not the same. 1), no thousands of Mexicans were pouring in daily. 2) No US govt practically invited hundreds of thousands to come... llike Germany is doing with Syria now. And 3) MOST IMPORTANTLY there's same shared cultural (Mexicans are Christians for starters) and geophysical space between Americans and Mexicans... where none exist between any Europeans and sub-Saharans and Middle Eesterns.

In fact this social engineering is incomparable to anything (previously) in its bold brazen-ness.
 

FilipSRB

Woodpecker
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RE: The End of Europe

rhino said:
FilipSRB said:
This will end in blood, but it will not be the death kneel. The coming struggle will be long and hard, but we will prevail.

There will be no blood. The Western Project in its postmodern form has been going on for a good 50-70 years... and the entire generations have been brainwashed, indoctrinated, sedated... bought/sold into it.

Sure, there may be individual skirmishes, and reactionary actions, but the project will march on its path of destruction, because the project is fluid and oblique and you can't fight that.

"Majke još rađaju Obiliće"

It is a slogan that a couple of nationalist movements in Serbia use. Roughly translated it means that mothers are still giving birth to new heroes, because Miloš Obilić was a Serbian knight who according to tradition killed Ottoman sultan Murad I at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389.

Why am I saying this? Yes, every day we are looking at the scores of people seemingly brainwashed and without a purpose, but those types of people never started the revolution. There is always a small core in every population, a couple of percent maybe, the media like to call them extremists. They are the one that carry the greatest burden on their backs, and they are the ones that are gonna win you the battles. They are already engaged in the struggle, and all they need is a support from the significant part of the population, and soon they will get one. Not every German who voted for the Nazi in the elections was a member of the Nazi party.
 

Samseau

Owl
Orthodox
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RE: The End of Europe

storm said:
For those who claim violent revolution: did the men of Detroit rise up against the blacks being shipped in vy the car companies to take their jobs, rape their children, plunder their neighborhoods?

No?

Then why would it happen in europe now, without guns and with video games welfare and reality TV?

Yes actually the men of Detroit did rise up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_race_riot_of_1943

However the major difference between Black relocation to Detroit and this current invasion of Europe is that those Blacks had lived in America for nearly 400 years before moving to Detroit. Culturally much more similar than the current wave of muslim men.
 

DjembaDjemba

Pelican
RE: The End of Europe

storm said:
For those who claim violent revolution: did the men of Detroit rise up against the blacks being shipped in vy the car companies to take their jobs, rape their children, plunder their neighborhoods?

No?

Then why would it happen in europe now, without guns and with video games welfare and reality TV?

:mindblown3:
 

Belgrano

Ostrich
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RE: The End of Europe

Bey said:
rhino said:
Another characteristic is that none are moving into Turkey and other Islamic countries. All are *gunning* (ahem) for Western Europe.

...it's only right that other countries take in their fair share (especially those that were responsible for destabilising the region in the first place).

Oh, you mean like Turkey? Or Saudi-Arabia? Or Qatar?
Please, don't feel shy, enlighten us.
 
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The question I have about all of this is and forgive me for being naive but why isn't the world doing more to improve living standards in the third world? The way I look at it, we wouldn't have this immigration nonsense if people can at least have the basic necessities of life covered. Civil war aside for a second, are things in Syria, Algeria, Turkey etc that bad that these people can't wait to get out?

The world powers can get together and easily solve this problem or am I wrong? I'm no talking socialism, but let's at least make these places livable for the love of christ. Yes, I understand the first-world may not have any sort of obligation to do any of this but just for the sake of morality. That way Muslims can do their thing, and we can do ours. Win-win.
 

storm

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TigerMandingo said:
The way I look at it, we wouldn't have this immigration nonsense if people can at least have the basic necessities of life covered.

Can you briefly explain the reasoning behind your position here? It is a bold statement.
 

CaptainS

Hummingbird
RE: The End of Europe

Landmine the borders and end the welfare state. That will eliminate the undesirables. Solutions can be simple.
 

Samseau

Owl
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RE: The End of Europe

TigerMandingo said:
The question I have about all of this is and forgive me for being naive but why isn't the world doing more to improve living standards in the third world? The way I look at it, we wouldn't have this immigration nonsense if people can at least have the basic necessities of life covered. Civil war aside for a second, are things in Syria, Algeria, Turkey etc that bad that these people can't wait to get out?

The world powers can get together and easily solve this problem or am I wrong? I'm no talking socialism, but let's at least make these places livable for the love of christ. Yes, I understand the first-world may not have any sort of obligation to do any of this but just for the sake of morality. That way Muslims can do their thing, and we can do ours. Win-win.

How is this possible when you've got ruthless dictators all over the world making life hell for these people?

The third-world is poor primarily because of politics. Shit political leaders who ruin the country for their own gain. The only way to improve the third-world is through warfare and colonialism, but hey, colonialism is evil right? Instead we need to let the third-world fester and then invade our countries instead.
 

Glaucon

Ostrich
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I see two outcomes: either Europe becomes non-white shit-land like middle-east, or the we will witness the most brutal genocide in history if extreme right wing groups get to power when the natives are desperate.

Both are catastrophes.
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
RE: The End of Europe

dreambig said:
rhino said:

Apostasy is no easy feat for a Muslim and is punishable by death in many countries. Immigrants prepared to leave Islam are showing a genuine commitment to western values. Perhaps they should make conversion to Christianity conditional for any (economic) asylum claim.

Its interesting to note that the immigrants apostatizing are the Persians. Iranians are Shiite Muslims, many of which are not as hardcore about their religion as Sunnis. By converting, they can now claim they will be put to death if they return to their home country. European countries will not deport someone who faces the death penalty back home.
 

Travesty

Crow
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Samseau said:
The third-world is poor primarily because of politics. Shit political leaders who ruin the country for their own gain. The only way to improve the third-world is through warfare and colonialism, but hey, colonialism is evil right? Instead we need to let the third-world fester and then invade our countries instead.

This is an ugly truth.

These people left to their own devices will never pull themselves up.

I honestly think the answer in the future will be to have enough cheap drones and robotic troops to literally become the space aliens that invade and just execute all the corrupt powers that be and put these nations under martial law until they learn to become civilized.

I don't think anyone likes the thought of that, that will be the way though.
 
RE: The End of Europe

Samseau said:
The third-world is poor primarily because of politics. Shit political leaders who ruin the country for their own gain. The only way to improve the third-world is through warfare and colonialism, but hey, colonialism is evil right? Instead we need to let the third-world fester and then invade our countries instead.

Unfortunately, I believe you are exactly right with this.

Also the third-world did not develop with the ideas of the Enlightenment such as free speech, private property, liberty etc.

But then what is the solution? We don't take in these immigrants but we send them back to their countries knowing that their situations will never improve? It's fucked up but it may be the only way to keep peace.

EDIT: what Travesty said
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
RE: The End of Europe

RIslander said:
dreambig said:
rhino said:

Apostasy is no easy feat for a Muslim and is punishable by death in many countries. Immigrants prepared to leave Islam are showing a genuine commitment to western values. Perhaps they should make conversion to Christianity conditional for any (economic) asylum claim.

Its interesting to note that the immigrants apostatizing are the Persians. Iranians are Shiite Muslims, many of which are not as hardcore about their religion as Sunnis. By converting, they can now claim they will be put to death if they return to their home country. European countries will not deport someone who faces the death penalty back home.

This is feel-good bullshit being churned out by the media so viewers will say "oh look at ALL these Muslims are willing to become Christians and integregrate into our society! They aren't so bad after all!"
 

Travesty

Crow
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^^ Haven't you watched the marble tower video?

By raw numbers we will never be able to take in enough to help much.

And usually the ones with the brains and balls to escape are also the best ones to help their own country, in fact making things worse for those home countries.
 

rhino

 
RE: The End of Europe

And before anyone tries to turn this into a racial issue....

this issue is all about nurture (culture) and NOT nature. It's about chemistry, not biology..

Let it be known, as a random example, as a White European, I have more in common with an everyday Black Jamaican than I do with an everyday White Albanian. Let that sink in for a while.

But I do lament the loss of "White" cultural space... not because I'm racist, but because I'm pragmatist. The world's greatest breakthroughs have been achieved by Whites (including betas, and yes including "regular" Jews) as imperfect as we all are... so as we move away from that model I'm naturally scared for my progeny and the future of this world, because I don't know what will that world looked like when run by multicultural conglomerate of Zionists, Sharia zombies, high testostetone/lo iq retards and radical feminists. I'm open minded and willing to be convinced but by all indications we are in for a bumpy ride to the bottom.
 

Samseau

Owl
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RE: The End of Europe

Glaucon said:
I see two outcomes: either Europe becomes non-white shit-land like middle-east, or the we will witness the most brutal genocide in history if extreme right wing groups get to power when the natives are desperate.

Both are catastrophes.

If things aren't changed soon, then yes we are heading for a return to the dark ages and fast. There is still time to fix things but it depends on the next few election cycles. Either hard right-wing groups are elected to clean up this mess or Europe will dissolve into Muslim and non-Muslim territories engaged in endless war.

I don't think the right-wing groups need to engage in genocide though unless things become super desperate far into the future. It really depends on when the right-wingers are elected. If they are elected in 2080 when Whites are 30% of the population then yes it will probably be genocide or bust. But if they are elected by 2020 then it will be peaceful deportation.

Also, however, remember that Europe was built on the backs of incredibly violent men... because violence is the law of God. The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must. And this is how God made the world so either abide by His rules or suffer with the weak.
 

Samseau

Owl
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RE: The End of Europe

rhino said:
And before anyone tries to turn this into a racial issue....

this issue is all about nurture (culture) and NOT nature. It's about chemistry, not biology..

Let it be known, as a random example, as a White European, I have more in common with an everyday Black Jamaican than I do with an everyday White Albanian. Let that sink in for a while.

But I do lament the loss of "White" cultural space... not because I'm racist, but because I'm pragmatist. The world's greatest breakthroughs have been achieved by Whites (including betas, and yes including "regular" Jews) as imperfect as we all are... so as we move away from that model I'm naturally scared for my progeny and the future of this world, because I don't know what will that world looked like when run by multicultural conglomerate of Zionists, Sharia zombies, high testostetone/lo iq retards and radical feminists. I'm open minded and willing to be convinced but by all indications we are in for a bumpy ride to the bottom.

Yeah, but how far can you separate culture from race? Or to put it another way, how far can you separate culture from biology?

And are you saying Jamaicans are Christian while Albanians are muslim?
 

Akula

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RIslander said:
RIslander said:
dreambig said:
rhino said:

Apostasy is no easy feat for a Muslim and is punishable by death in many countries. Immigrants prepared to leave Islam are showing a genuine commitment to western values. Perhaps they should make conversion to Christianity conditional for any (economic) asylum claim.

Its interesting to note that the immigrants apostatizing are the Persians. Iranians are Shiite Muslims, many of which are not as hardcore about their religion as Sunnis. By converting, they can now claim they will be put to death if they return to their home country. European countries will not deport someone who faces the death penalty back home.

This is feel-good bullshit being churned out by the media so viewers will say "oh look at ALL these Muslims are willing to become Christians and integregrate into our society! They aren't so bad after all!"

How can any European trust their mostly state-run media at this point? Are they THAT brainwashed?

In the US yeah it's bad too, and almost all of the private mainstream media is completely in the globalist/feminist/progressive bag, but at least a lot of people know that they are being lied to day in and day out and they have some alternative sources. I really wonder about the average European though - I don't get the sense that they are used to sifting through the lies (outside the former Warsaw Pact EU members, who are the only ones making sense now) and thus tend to take things at face value (which is exactly wrong most of the time).
 

Libertas

Crow
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RE: The End of Europe

rhino said:
And before anyone tries to turn this into a racial issue....

this issue is all about nurture (culture) and NOT nature. It's about chemistry, not biology..

Let it be known, as a random example, as a White European, I have more in common with an everyday Black Jamaican than I do with an everyday White Albanian. Let that sink in for a while.

not because I'm racist

Who cares? By saying these thing's you're buying into the left's frame.
 
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