Migrant Invasion of USA

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
They'll vote for whoever promises to let their relatives in and in doing so increase their national market share and reduce their need to operate outside of their enclaves.

They'll vote against whoever promises to close the borders.

It's not a smidgen more complicated than that.

They used to vote R when assimilation was assumed and the US was still ascendant. Now there's nothing left to assimilate with, and not many people will shackle themselves to a sinking cultural ship. Chinese are better off retaining their Chinese identity because in 100 years there will still be a China.
 
Whether the Chinese in the US fall slightly to the left or right won't matter. My personal guess is that they will face more increased discrimination later and the term Asian/Chinese Privilege will come to the US in the next years. They don't have numbers large enough to make a difference in the US.

Pandering to any voters is irrelevant frankly. Neither US party offers any light out. Republicans are globohomo-hardore-light and Democrats are globohomos-dominatrix-hardcore.

The anti-White SJW-ideology is way too powerful in the West and White Man Bad will only become stronger - even higher-IQ Asians will believe it in righteous anger. Why is that so hard to understand when most college Whites believe it? The West is on suicide course and that's that. Ice-berg straight ahead and let's pick up more steam - we deserve it.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Sure, but when I say "Chinese" I'm referring more generally to every ethnic group that arrives.

What the average political pundit with their Western blinders on is generally unaware of is that most Indians and Asians and Somalians and Pakistanis and Turks are completely oblivious to the bizarre Right/Left orthodoxy of Western politics. They don't have a set of principles that falls even remotely within those bounds. You might as well be presenting a muslim with a choice between the bacon lobby and the hot-dog lobby. What's he going to ask?

"Which one increases my welfare and allows my brother Rashid to come here?"

People that immigrated to the West even as late as 30 years ago came to at least take a shot at assimilating because it seemed like we really did have a lock on the future for ever and ever amen.

Now? Those same migrants that came here 30 years ago are looking to "rediscover their ethnic identity" because the West has had it's own identity yanked out from under its feet. As I said before, assimilate to what? Roughneck cowboy culture? Coastal faggot culture? Southwestern Amerilatino culture? A sizeable percentage of the people born in America and many immigrants openly burn the flag. Even Mexico has better prospects for existing in 50 years than the USA.

The only reason most of them migrate to the west is to pick over the bones of the empire like a pack of hyenas because it's still a much easier meal than hunting in their ancestral homes. As such they will reliably vote for whoever allows them to gather the most carrion to themselves and import more of their brother hyenas.

Here's the honest truth. If you wanted the asian vote you would promise to end latino immigration and welfare and concentrate on asian immigration and "business/college incentives" (subsidies). If you wanted the latino vote you'd promise to do the opposite. But in the end the democrats win because they promise to concentrate on sucking whitey dry and subsidizing the immigration and enrichment of everyone else. But what virtually none of those immigrant and 1st/2nd gen populations give a shit about is stuff like the following.

Seperation of church and state.
Jurisprudence and natural law.
Liberalisation and libertarian first principles.
The separation of powers.
Fidelity to historical Western customs and history.
The bill or rights or its alternate Western counterparts.
etc
etc
etc

They give not a single fuck about these issues. Not even enough to fall to the Left or Right on them. If you offered them far Right governance except total welfare and immigration for themselves and their kin they would take it happily. If you offered them far Left governance except total welfare and immigration for themselves and their kin they would take that instead. There are literally no greater principles which drive them as a voting block because in their heart of hearts they now know with relative certainty that the West isn't going to be here very long anyway, so they might as well bleed it dry and carve up the corpse while they can. Ergo the majority of them will vote for "bleed it dry and carve up the corpse".
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
Sure, but when I say "Chinese" I'm referring more generally to every ethnic group that arrives.

What the average political pundit with their Western blinders on is generally unaware of is that most Indians and Asians and Somalians and Pakistanis and Turks are completely oblivious to the bizarre Right/Left orthodoxy of Western politics. They don't have a set of principles that falls even remotely within those bounds. You might as well be presenting a muslim with a choice between the bacon lobby and the hot-dog lobby. What's he going to ask?
That is so hilarious and true. That is why Muslims in Europe usually vote for the most far-left or green parties - not because they are on board with their progressive ideals, but mainly because they want the most open borders for the place. They would vote for a new Hitler, in fact would be more closer aligned with his values, if he allowed unlimited welfare funded migration for them.

Ultimately it's already a lost battle - the West is doomed and will go down:


Reparations are becoming more mainstream:


James Allsup is correct - at first the proposals of the fringe are laughed at, then they are discussed by "moderates", ultimately they are put into law as soon as is it's feasible and the White population is in a minority unable to vote themselves out of the pickle.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Where we disagree is that the end is inevitable.

I agree that the end of functional Western democracy is inevitable but not the West itself. Flyover country (wherever you happen to be) is still having kids and when it becomes inescapably apparent that those kids have no future under the current arrangement then a civil revolt will kick off and that will set the dominoes tumbling.

I think the plans of the elites are already unravelling faster than they can patch them, and after the temporary collapse of the old order the majority of the migrants will go home. That's the thing about majority-minority displacement. When the gloves come off, the aggregate of minority groups suddenly lose their power almost entirely. Indians and Pakistanis and Chinese and Mexicans and Blacks and Arabs are not going to form a cohesive power base to either hold the US together or even keep the lights on in their metropolitan fuckfests. The latinos will hold some land and the blacks much less but the rest will immediately seek to decamp to some place where they wont be spending their lives wondering if one of the dozens of rival tribes in the area are going to shank them for their stuff on any given day. It will be far easier just to find passage back to India, China, etc. Remember, they only came to the West in the first place because it was easier for them here. Not because they gave a shit about the nation or the flag or freedom or the Magna Carta or whatever.

And as goes one Western nation, the rest will follow. Faith in the not-so-almighty dollar is not infinite and once someone rocks the boat hard enough for water to come in over the edge then the panic will begin.

Time to focus on hardening ourselves and our positions and put the rest in God's hands. Surround yourself with your people and lend support to those around you that are having a harder time than you are. Grind the system down without being the nail that sticks up too far and be ready any time for things to kick off.
 
^ I actually think it's a good take and it's similar to the opinion that i've formed on my own.

Still, it's a bit too early and premature to simply judge things as simply over and done for in any way. With this sort of thing, it's all so close run that the uncertainty is so high we can't really predict what will happen and almost anything, no matter how bizarre, can happen.

Simeon_Strangelight is just a wierd nihilist lol.

Otherwise though, as fun as it is for me to spectate and observe all this, I really need to get back on working to keep my head down and mind my own business.
 
KnjazMihailo said:
^ I actually think it's a good take and it's similar to the opinion that i've formed on my own.

Still, it's a bit too early and premature to simply judge things as simply over and done for in any way. With this sort of thing, it's all so close run that the uncertainty is so high we can't really predict what will happen and almost anything, no matter how bizarre, can happen.

Simeon_Strangelight is just a wierd nihilist lol.

Otherwise though, as fun as it is for me to spectate and observe all this, I really need to get back on working to keep my head down and mind my own business.
Just always have an escape plan bro. I rarely pay attention to the doom mongers or the npcs/sjws or the migrants, except I never turn my back to them. I keep my head straight and plow on, but not without an alternate planned route if things get too hairy.
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
Where we disagree is that the end is inevitable.

I agree that the end of functional Western democracy is inevitable but not the West itself. Flyover country (wherever you happen to be) is still having kids and when it becomes inescapably apparent that those kids have no future under the current arrangement then a civil revolt will kick off and that will set the dominoes tumbling.

I think the plans of the elites are already unravelling faster than they can patch them, and after the temporary collapse of the old order the majority of the migrants will go home. That's the thing about majority-minority displacement. When the gloves come off, the aggregate of minority groups suddenly lose their power almost entirely. Indians and Pakistanis and Chinese and Mexicans and Blacks and Arabs are not going to form a cohesive power base to either hold the US together or even keep the lights on in their metropolitan fuckfests. The latinos will hold some land and the blacks much less but the rest will immediately seek to decamp to some place where they wont be spending their lives wondering if one of the dozens of rival tribes in the area are going to shank them for their stuff on any given day. It will be far easier just to find passage back to India, China, etc. Remember, they only came to the West in the first place because it was easier for them here. Not because they gave a shit about the nation or the flag or freedom or the Magna Carta or whatever.

And as goes one Western nation, the rest will follow. Faith in the not-so-almighty dollar is not infinite and once someone rocks the boat hard enough for water to come in over the edge then the panic will begin.

Time to focus on hardening ourselves and our positions and put the rest in God's hands. Surround yourself with your people and lend support to those around you that are having a harder time than you are. Grind the system down without being the nail that sticks up too far and be ready any time for things to kick off.
We only disagree on what the future potentially holds. A split-up is incrdibly difficult to do. They did not allow this to happen in the 1860s, why would they allow it now?

The assumption is that the elite does not have contingency plans for all of that. Maybe they do:



Western countries may survive in limited states. Venezuela was majority European once - without the commies in charge, they may not be eating zebras, but would be a more dysfunctional Brazil now. You can survive on that.

Time will tell whether the rebellion will come. In your case I wouldn't sweat it. Australia will be relatively fine under strict Chinese rule - they won't let their new colony collapse in lawlessness.

As for the rest of the West - most of the countries will be minority European and your are counting on the people to be able to shake of centuries-old control by the globalist bankers while already having essentially lost both their ethnic identity, national identity, ability even to use language to fight back (it's racist) - and you are fighting people who can claim that they were born there too (2040-50s). Total collapse won't come - it's just a constant deterioration, so that the time later is lost to fight back.

I am no nihilist, just a realist, but I keep my mind open and who knows - there may be a way. But you know what the realist definition is vs an overarching optimist?

Poland for example fighting the Soviets - 1921 vs 1945. In 1921 they had the support of the West wanting to weaken Germany, the Soviets were in disarray themselves and they met a unified people wanting to carve out their own contry in which they were already the overwhelming majority. They met a similar technological enemy, but were far more motivated and ready to fight to the end - meanwhile even receiveing some globalist help. The situation in 1943/44/45? If you wanted to ride it out, then it wasn't such a good idea. There was little that you could do in any way.

We will see what's what. My view is that the elite wants a controlled demolition, deterioration of the West with combat drones and a chipped population later helping to police all of the diversity. Maybe they manage or we get a real rebellion as you predict. Or maybe we are superlucky and a less oppressive usury-pushing Alien race conquers us in order to expand their market by 9 billion workers/consumers.

We shall see.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Personally I'm thinking a solar flare or a serious pandemic flips the table. The sun does what it does, and our ability to prevent a widescale pandemic is decreasing by the day. There are other possibilities for natural or man-made disasters that put an end to this foolishness. Having read about the Dallas ebola fuckups I'm pretty much convinced it was only the mercy of higher powers that prevented a nightmare scenario and having worked in the health sector extensively I can say with certainty that if something like that ever reaches double-digit infected in the West then it will be borderline impossible to put it back in the box. Triple digit across more than one city? The whole house of cards collapses.

After that a couple of years without electricity and everyone who isn't where they belong will either die or go back. Anyone who isn't committed entirely to civilized behavior will also be wiped out by necessity.

But again, maybe that's part of their plan. Dilute the West, wipe out 90% of the world's population, create a functionally new species from the remainder. It's not beyond their code of ethics by any stretch.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
We had a big SARS scare in Toronto after some Chinese brought the bug back about 15 years ago and they got it contained, then the Rolling Stones headlined a concert called SARS fest and half a million people went. I wonder what Ebola fest would look like?
 
And now we are to the point that elected officials boast about breaking the law and smuggle in illegal aliens across the boarder and film the entire thing.

 
Traitors to kin and country. Perhaps God will not judge them for their acts of kindness, but judgments can last for future generations as well. The above elected official does not care to see the harm he brings to his own people. There is no love in these people if they have forsaken their own. This world is not fair, you cannot help everyone, but if you are in a position to help people it should always be with your family first, then neighbors, then countrymen, before extending foreign aid without reciprocity.

Very few cultures are capable of reciprocity.
 

KMK

Robin
It_is_my_time said:
And now we are to the point that elected officials boast about breaking the law and smuggle in illegal aliens across the boarder and film the entire thing.

Trump's gonna savagely roast this guy with a tweet, it'll be epic.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
As I noted to another member in a PM.

Rules and laws are irrelevant in the face of cultural shifts. The US is entering into a phase where the only functional law is "thou shalt not contravene globohomo edict".

The second amendment exists and so does the ATF. Despite the former, the latter may now imprison people for making and/or possessing the same rifle as used by a standard infantryman, despite both the wording AND the premise of the 2A being to keep the citizen on par with the standard infantryman.

Rule of law is dead in the US. Now there is only naked power.
 
KMK said:
It_is_my_time said:
And now we are to the point that elected officials boast about breaking the law and smuggle in illegal aliens across the boarder and film the entire thing.
Trump's gonna savagely roast this guy with a tweet, it'll be epic.
Another huge test for Trump that I predict he will again fail at doing the right thing. In this case using the DOJ to investigate this criminal behavior.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
KMK said:
It_is_my_time said:
And now we are to the point that elected officials boast about breaking the law and smuggle in illegal aliens across the boarder and film the entire thing.

Trump's gonna savagely roast this guy with a tweet, it'll be epic.

 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
But I thought according to some on this forum its just a conspiracy and a coincidence they happen to be Jewish and all for immigration? The coming years are going to be such a huge black pill for some I dont know how they will react.
 

bucky

Pelican
Leonard D Neubache said:
Sure, but when I say "Chinese" I'm referring more generally to every ethnic group that arrives.

What the average political pundit with their Western blinders on is generally unaware of is that most Indians and Asians and Somalians and Pakistanis and Turks are completely oblivious to the bizarre Right/Left orthodoxy of Western politics. They don't have a set of principles that falls even remotely within those bounds. You might as well be presenting a muslim with a choice between the bacon lobby and the hot-dog lobby. What's he going to ask?

"Which one increases my welfare and allows my brother Rashid to come here?"

People that immigrated to the West even as late as 30 years ago came to at least take a shot at assimilating because it seemed like we really did have a lock on the future for ever and ever amen.

Now? Those same migrants that came here 30 years ago are looking to "rediscover their ethnic identity" because the West has had it's own identity yanked out from under its feet. As I said before, assimilate to what? Roughneck cowboy culture? Coastal faggot culture? Southwestern Amerilatino culture? A sizeable percentage of the people born in America and many immigrants openly burn the flag. Even Mexico has better prospects for existing in 50 years than the USA.

The only reason most of them migrate to the west is to pick over the bones of the empire like a pack of hyenas because it's still a much easier meal than hunting in their ancestral homes. As such they will reliably vote for whoever allows them to gather the most carrion to themselves and import more of their brother hyenas.

Here's the honest truth. If you wanted the asian vote you would promise to end latino immigration and welfare and concentrate on asian immigration and "business/college incentives" (subsidies). If you wanted the latino vote you'd promise to do the opposite. But in the end the democrats win because they promise to concentrate on sucking whitey dry and subsidizing the immigration and enrichment of everyone else. But what virtually none of those immigrant and 1st/2nd gen populations give a shit about is stuff like the following.

Seperation of church and state.
Jurisprudence and natural law.
Liberalisation and libertarian first principles.
The separation of powers.
Fidelity to historical Western customs and history.
The bill or rights or its alternate Western counterparts.
etc
etc
etc

They give not a single fuck about these issues. Not even enough to fall to the Left or Right on them. If you offered them far Right governance except total welfare and immigration for themselves and their kin they would take it happily. If you offered them far Left governance except total welfare and immigration for themselves and their kin they would take that instead. There are literally no greater principles which drive them as a voting block because in their heart of hearts they now know with relative certainty that the West isn't going to be here very long anyway, so they might as well bleed it dry and carve up the corpse while they can. Ergo the majority of them will vote for "bleed it dry and carve up the corpse".
I often daydream about an alternate reality where any of this could be said on mainstream news or radio.
 

bucky

Pelican
It_is_my_time said:
And now we are to the point that elected officials boast about breaking the law and smuggle in illegal aliens across the boarder and film the entire thing.

"They are fleeing persecution and violence, seeking a better life for their families."

No one ever asks why life is better in the US and more violent there, or how opening the borders to millions from those places might change things.
 
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