Miranda Kerr abstaining from sex before marriage to Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel
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AnonymousBosch said:
I see nothing wrong with it.
A widow honouring her deceased partner isn't a bad thing.
Rossi said:
There are a ton of 21 year olds hotter than Amanda Kerr at 33. Are you kidding?
Sure, Amanda looks very good for 33, but if you don't look at pictures of her perfectly made up/airbrushed you start to get a clearer picture of why RVF'ers are saying that a 26 year old billionaire could do better:
Here's with a ton of good lighting, makeup, airbrushing and she looks great, but she isn't extremely pretty:
[img=662x9500]http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/...racking-Jewellery-Shoot--01-662x950.jpg[/img]
Just a really cute skinny white chick. No ass, not much boobs without the pushup, and a real cute face. Not something amazing:
[img=662x994]http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/...-Bikini-Photoshoot-2016--08-662x994.jpg[/img]
Cute. Definitely top tier, but at 33 going to compete with really hot 21 year old girls? Nope. Here's her younger without makeup:
She's hot, no doubt, but quickly losing her appeal and her body is not that good compared to most of the What do you consider a 10? Thread
There's a lot of thirst for her in this thread because she's still hot at 33. If you were a 26 year old billionaire with any modicum of game, you should be looking at the up and coming VS models or equivalent, not this 33 year old single-mom been around the block alpha widow (literally) version.
EDIT: Accidentally put a picture in the original quote.
Transsimian said:
I've stated many times before my belief that women have an unhealthy relationship with fantasy. Most of the miserable women I've met throughout my life have had one huge commonality: the inability to stop comparing what is to what if and assuming the fantasy possibility must be better. Rhyme or Reason started an interesting thread the other day on overcoming Cynicism, and came to the conclusion that people choose to be cynical. In this same way, most women simply choose to be dissatisfied by daydreaming.
With any long term relationship you enter, you will always be fighting what I think of as The Ghost of Possibility with regards to her first love: sometimes an innocent childhood sweetheart, but more often it'll be her first serious high school boyfriend. If she had 'hip' liberal parents, she was probably given birth control and praised for 'taking proactive control of her sexual choices'. What this means for guys: if he came in her, she's pair-bonded with him for life, and will always be wondering about him. He will be her big What If?
What if we stayed together?
What if we'd gotten married?
What if we'd had children together?
This sort of fantasy holds huge appeal to women. You'd be surprised how many marriages I've seen break up due to women hooking up with their high school flames on Facebook.
So, that's your Basic Bitch 'What If?' How could this hold an even greater appeal to the female sex? Add drama and tragedy.
What if my 'true' love hadn't died?
Death tends to blow away the dust of negative perceptions of people. Which means: He's now an idealised fantasy construct, forever wondered about, but impossible to obtain.
If you know women, you'll understand their innate fascinated attraction to such a construct, which is why Kerr is still thinking about some random high schooler even after catching and marrying one of the most sought-after males (Bloom) in the world. As such, I'm not surprised Kerr and Bloom's marriage failed.
Thinking about it, this most likely, explains the appeal of 'Twilight' to the Mommy set: it's a fantasy where their idealised high school boyfriend stays young and brooding forever.
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As an aside, I've long noted sex-related differences how death is handled in women's romantic fiction:
When a male character suffers the loss of his wife, the female fantasy is ostensibly about her meeting the widower and helping him to heal and move on. Scratch away that attractive veneer and the fantasy is much more viciously-female: it's a display of her superiority where she's beautiful and attractive enough that she has the power to make a man forget the dead. The dead wife usually features as an abstract conception of the impossible rival, and is kept off-stage.
However, when a female character suffers the loss of her husband, the fantasy is framed very differently. He's very much a main character in the piece. What most commonly seems to happen is the tale is about him teaching her to 'let go' of him, to move on and find 'the happiness she deserves' with another man. Often there's multiple superficially-attractive suitors on offer, but the real romance is the dead husband showing he loves her enough to wants her to be 'happy' again - and the abstract of attainable eternal 'happiness', not diamond, is a girl's best friend.
In this way, the Dead Husband is the Romantic Ideal here. His thoughts aren't upon, say, his death, his loss, damnation, grief or mourning, but purely-fixated upon her happiness.
This total disinterest in the man's wants and desires as being distinct and separate from her own doesn't surprise me in the slightest. It's just girls being girls. This is why, whenever you're deeply-lost in thought, a girl will naturally-assume you must be thinking about them.
Transsimian said:
That's disgusting. Your ("you" being Miranda Kerr) teenage ex-boyfriend is dead; I don't give a shit.
You're my wife, you're already knocked-up with my kid, all your base are belong to me. The only person(s) you should be honoring are me, my paternal ancestors, or yours, in that order.
You don't like it?
Okay, get thee to a nunnery, you can fuck the Justin Bieber's and Spiegel's of the world if you want while I play some Legolas-style "just the arrow tip" (Spoilers: Not just the tip) with girls who are actually in their prime and not has-been harlots, and are hotter than you were when you in your prime.
...my train of thought if I were Orlando.
Single mothers are scum--human garbage.
Table scraps, indeed.
Legolas's leftovers.
Kabal said:
I agree. It might not be PC, but men like to feel a sense of ownership when they take a wife. Bringing up some boyfriend of the past, dead or not, is disrespectful.
The question arises then, who is the perfect man for a hot but obviously past her prime 33 year old woman with a kid? Personally I have nothing against this chick, but I think she would have a greater chance at long term relationship success with a man that is more suited for her. Super model or not, I think the ideal man would be between the ages of around 45-55, who also has kids from a previous relationship. Having his own kids is important, because it will allow him to feel less resentful when she spends time with her kid and not attending to his needs.
Tex Cruise
Pelican
AnonymousBosch said:
So true about the fantasy construct. A mate of mine dated a girl whose previous partner had died (though there had been a few others in between the dead one and him). She's a nice enough girl and things went ok for a while before the shit started.
One day he came over to my place after they'd had a blue. We were having a beer and he said "You know what the problem is? She's in love with a dead man."
Just like the old joke about the cabbie...
They already memed Orlando because he got a son named after her first Alpha-imprint boyfriend:
She started her career at age 13!!!!!!!!!!
That is the first no-go. Heidi Klum basically was 18 already when she started out and avoided most madness. A teenage girl traveling the world, meeting rich men, famous men, getting coke for free, getting dick for free - come on.
She sucked more dick than 10. It is true that beautiful women generally have lower notch-counts since they end up in relationship wiht a high-value man faster, but I wouldn't trust her based on her dating history.
Her known dating history:
http://www.famousfix.com/topic/miranda-kerr/dating
By the way - her first boyfriend was when she was 15 and she certainly was no virgin afterwards or it would not have imprinted her enough to Alpha widow Orlando Bloom's kid.
That is all we know of - nevermind the quickies and bangs she gave out during her career which involves a lot of traveling, sleeping alone in hotels etc.
She is the normal famous beautiful woman who fucks bad boys, rock stars, movie stars and then as she ages cashes in best with a billionaire. An Alpha Red Pill billionaire would probably have better discrimination, so a Beta will have to do.
Also she will likely pop out a kid as soon as possible - maybe she will name the son Orlando, Justin or Leonardo?
She started her career at age 13!!!!!!!!!!
That is the first no-go. Heidi Klum basically was 18 already when she started out and avoided most madness. A teenage girl traveling the world, meeting rich men, famous men, getting coke for free, getting dick for free - come on.
She sucked more dick than 10. It is true that beautiful women generally have lower notch-counts since they end up in relationship wiht a high-value man faster, but I wouldn't trust her based on her dating history.
Her known dating history:
http://www.famousfix.com/topic/miranda-kerr/dating
By the way - her first boyfriend was when she was 15 and she certainly was no virgin afterwards or it would not have imprinted her enough to Alpha widow Orlando Bloom's kid.
That is all we know of - nevermind the quickies and bangs she gave out during her career which involves a lot of traveling, sleeping alone in hotels etc.
She is the normal famous beautiful woman who fucks bad boys, rock stars, movie stars and then as she ages cashes in best with a billionaire. An Alpha Red Pill billionaire would probably have better discrimination, so a Beta will have to do.
Also she will likely pop out a kid as soon as possible - maybe she will name the son Orlando, Justin or Leonardo?
Kabal said:
My (now ex) girlfriend had a boyfriend that died in a construction accident when they were together in High School. One day she told me that she had a bunch of his things and memento's from their time together but due to her grief, she kept the items at her parent's house. BUT, she told me, she would like to someday move those items to our place.
I immediately said "No fucking way. They day you move that stuff in here is the day I move out".
She never did move the stuff over. But I did eventually move out.
John Michael Kane
Crow
Matsufubu said:
He just smells like a mark ripe for a huge divorce payout. I sense she is going to chop him up and spit him out in a few years.
John Michael Kane
Crow
Apparently he has no red pill friends that have told him off, or he's willfully ignored them? If the latter is true, then he deserves to be ripped off for not listening to their advice.
This is not really surprising. Despite being a billionaire, this guy is a complete nobody. He lucked his way into a fortune with a trendy sexting app, but psychologically he still perceives himself as a normal guy - with a normal SMV. Thus when he meets a woman like Miranda Kerr he is completely starstruck and easy prey for her highly developed, world-class girl game. I have no doubt he thinks himself hot shit for dating her (we must at least admit he's doing far better than Zuckerberg and most other rich Silicon Valley nerds in this regard) and is the sort of guy who gets a huge ego boost from dating a famous woman. In other words, this is simply a case of the high school computer geek snagging the prom queen: he thinks he's suddenly king shit and the coolest guy in the room by default since the most popular girl in school chose to date him.
To be honest, I'm surprised we haven't seen more post-wall and near-wall famous women trying to snap up these clueless but wealthy Silicon Valley nerds for quick marriages. If you're a nerdy guy who never got much play growing up but managed to build up a 9 figure (or greater) fortune, it's easy to fall prey to the predatory seduction tactics of an experienced carousel rider who also happens to be famous. These guys have no defenses. The caliber of woman they can attract with mega money is something they are completely unable to handle. This guy Spiegel probably used to jerk off to Miranda Kerr, and suddenly he finds himself in a position to date her. That's a big mindfuck. It's a concentrated dose of ego inflation unlike anything most of us will ever experience. But it's just too much. It's like handing a 15 year old kid a bottle of vodka and the keys to a Ferrari. He just doesn't have the experience to protect himself. Disaster is inevitable.
To be honest, I'm surprised we haven't seen more post-wall and near-wall famous women trying to snap up these clueless but wealthy Silicon Valley nerds for quick marriages. If you're a nerdy guy who never got much play growing up but managed to build up a 9 figure (or greater) fortune, it's easy to fall prey to the predatory seduction tactics of an experienced carousel rider who also happens to be famous. These guys have no defenses. The caliber of woman they can attract with mega money is something they are completely unable to handle. This guy Spiegel probably used to jerk off to Miranda Kerr, and suddenly he finds himself in a position to date her. That's a big mindfuck. It's a concentrated dose of ego inflation unlike anything most of us will ever experience. But it's just too much. It's like handing a 15 year old kid a bottle of vodka and the keys to a Ferrari. He just doesn't have the experience to protect himself. Disaster is inevitable.
scorpion said:
Nailed it. I noted a similar dynamic at work with the sucker is soon to wife up Serena Williams:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-60302-post-1474886.html#pid1474886
I think the reason we don't see more of this is because, 1) it probably isn't easy for even rich nerds to have contact with women like this, and 2) a lot of these women probably can't fake attraction for these geeks for even the short amount of time they'd need to put in to completely snow these dudes. Especially when they also have other options and have some wealth of their own.
Yeah...
We are all certain Miranda would date (let alone marry) this guy if he was merely the assistant manager at the local Target...?
Any chick who's focus is on someone else, can go to that someone else.
I don't care if she wastes her days at a grave.
I'll spend my time with the living.
Going on with what AnonymousBosch detailed.
My mother recently had the chance to get together with a high-school / youthful flame that she'd pined for for ~40 years after the fact.
Problem being.
The fantasy of that youthful guy was, was just that - a fantasy.
The now 40 year older guy had lived quite a crazy life in the interim :
8 years in a South American jail after getting caught up in some botched drug deal.
Other drama through his adult life.
Then despite the chance to turn his life around in his twilight years, he's now stuck in a Peruvian jail for other drug offenses.
My mother was wise enough to get away from that guy before any real drama befell her.
Yet prior to the harsh reality, that youthful fantasy played on her mind throughout her 40's & 50's.
We are all certain Miranda would date (let alone marry) this guy if he was merely the assistant manager at the local Target...?
Transsimian said:
Any chick who's focus is on someone else, can go to that someone else.
I don't care if she wastes her days at a grave.
I'll spend my time with the living.
Going on with what AnonymousBosch detailed.
My mother recently had the chance to get together with a high-school / youthful flame that she'd pined for for ~40 years after the fact.
Problem being.
The fantasy of that youthful guy was, was just that - a fantasy.
The now 40 year older guy had lived quite a crazy life in the interim :
8 years in a South American jail after getting caught up in some botched drug deal.
Other drama through his adult life.
Then despite the chance to turn his life around in his twilight years, he's now stuck in a Peruvian jail for other drug offenses.
My mother was wise enough to get away from that guy before any real drama befell her.
Yet prior to the harsh reality, that youthful fantasy played on her mind throughout her 40's & 50's.