Modern Psychiatry Is Demonic

BraveWarrior

 
Banned
Catholic
I got threatened the other week by a transexual in her apartment drinking spirits. I was still thinking after 5 drinks in the space of 2 hours and couldnt get a errection with her until she kicked me out. take me out to the desert and kill me basically was her threat. everyone hates me in the gay club with their 666 bottle upstairs vodka drink.
I regularly get kicked out of nightclubs for breaking the rules and been too rude for a gay club even. i get back in or get a ban but authority is respected.
-Drinking alcohol in the apartment of a tranny
-couldn't get an erection (you were thinking of fornicating it seems, and with a tranny too?)
-in a gay bar
-everyone hates you even there?
-666 bottle? (I've never heard of that actually)
-regularly kicked out of nightclubs, even gay ones, for being too rude, even banned sometimes

And then that video you posted, based on the weird style of your post and the weird behavior in the video wouldn't be surprised if it was you.

Based on your experiences, which are bad, I'd say that's a warning sign for you to flee from that lifestyle of drug and alcohol abuse, nightclubbing, and hanging around members of the LGBT community.
 

Going strong

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
Timely. I just learned a friend of a friend is now on antidepressants because of his sadness over the death of his father. Yes, a psychiatrist decided that grieving is problematic and can be cured with drugs.

Sure, but your friend decided to 1) Go see a psychiatrist 2) Talk to this stranger about his private life 3) Swallow the strange chemical pills that this weird stranger ordered him to take 4) Actually give money to the strange, talking medecine man.

I mean, nobody put a gun to your friend's head, he went to see the shrink, willingly gave him money and swallowed his strange pills, no question asked.

So, sure the shrinks are all crooks, obviously, but why do Western-world people actually go see them? In Moscow or Saigon, I don't think a single person ever goes see a shrink, unless I am mistaken? So, it's once again the weakness (and also lack of spirituality) of most Western world people, that's the root of the problem.
 

anti-science

 
Banned
Gnostic or New Age
SSRIs have destroyed many lives, look-up post-SSRI syndrome where people suffer with a range of inhumane side effects for years (and sometimes forever) after discontinuing those drugs. Another example of the fatalistic use of science at the hands of the controller. We get people praising science here not realizing they have created many the issues they are trying to fix. Devolving spiritually while believing you came from an ape who only lived for about 30 years produces these toxic materialist atheist or worse, fake christians who think their physical body is all that there is.
 

Gimlet

Pelican
Sure, but your friend decided to 1) Go see a psychiatrist 2) Talk to this stranger about his private life 3) Swallow the strange chemical pills that this weird stranger ordered him to take 4) Actually give money to the strange, talking medecine man.

I mean, nobody put a gun to your friend's head, he went to see the shrink, willingly gave him money and swallowed his strange pills, no question asked.

So, sure the shrinks are all crooks, obviously, but why do Western-world people actually go see them? In Moscow or Saigon, I don't think a single person ever goes see a shrink, unless I am mistaken? So, it's once again the weakness (and also lack of spirituality) of most Western world people, that's the root of the problem.

I am not going to pass judgement on him. When people are in pain they tend to lean on the solution most heavily promoted as the easiest fix.
 

Going strong

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
I am not going to pass judgement on him. When people are in pain they tend to lean on the solution most heavily promoted as the easiest fix.
Sure, but maybe just maybe they could man up?

For example, my grandfather saw his whole platoon brutally killed in one afternoon by Germans during the war, and, did he run to see a psychiatrist? Did he claim to be "traumatised by such events and depressed" during his life after the war? No. He went to a church, prayed for their souls, and kept on with his life, never crying, never complaining, strong and dignified to the end. No shrink, no cries.

It's just to show that people of the past, or people from outside the Western world, just didn't / don't care about shrinks. They just keep on living and fighting.
 

Stirfry

Robin
Atheist
lol this is a load of rubbish.

I'm on 7.5mg atm of olazapine for paranoid schizophenia and a other 400mg of sodium valoprate for seizures. they killed people like me back in the day for being demonic. I know the bible quite well. Listening to a false church singer now kari jobes boyfriend. That church named some shit like elevation church its leader pastor said he was God. Prosperity gospel full bore there too. Listen to here again and the lyrics are the Lord is in this place. Pastor must think hes the lord listening to that music all the time.



basically the bible tells you not to fear man but God alone. I got threatened the other week by a transexual in her apartment drinking spirits. I was still thinking after 5 drinks in the space of 2 hours and couldnt get a errection with her until she kicked me out. take me out to the desert and kill me basically was her threat. everyone hates me in the gay club with their 666 bottle upstairs vodka drink.

Basically brahs all this fear is going to smash ya spiritually. you still gotta be wise in a sense and harmless a dove. having a innocent way of being is the key.

children do as they are told by authority. I regularly get kicked out of nightclubs for breaking the rules and been too rude for a gay club even. i get back in or get a ban but authority is respected. Doctors have this authority. Govts have this authority. Mark of the beast is post rapture. yeah yeah bluetooth IDs from vaccines dont know if that true who cares.

anyways have a watch of this guy in this video and have a laugh.



I don't believe in the lie of lordship salvation by the way and im bad to bone. Christ righteousness is what i seek and everything else is added to ya ass. Yeah yeah yeah if you love God you obey his commandments there is serveral hundred of them but base it down to this

Love God and love your neighbour.

have a nice day. don't fear some drug a doctor gives ya like paul didn't worry and fear about a snake biting him.

My criticisms weren’t a diatribe for or against religion, science, the pharmaceutical industry or the medical profession in general. Medications help people, we all agree on that. I can only relate my experience, which was treatment for anxiety and depression, and not a more serious condition like schizophrenia or seizures.

At any given time I was taking numerous anti-depressants and anxiolytics at the direction of my psychiatrist. They did nothing except cause a litany of serious side effects, and even worse withdrawal effects, that took years to resolve. I was still dealing with side effects two years after I stopped taking those pills.

Some physicians and psychiatrists prescribe these things like candy without realizing their long term effects and without considering another alternative like simple exercise or a change in diet.
 

Gimlet

Pelican
Sure, but maybe just maybe they could man up?

For example, my grandfather saw his whole platoon brutally killed in one afternoon by Germans during the war, and, did he run to see a psychiatrist? Did he claim to be "traumatised by such events and depressed" during his life after the war? No. He went to a church, prayed for their souls, and kept on with his life, never crying, never complaining, strong and dignified to the end. No shrink, no cries.

It's just to show that people of the past, or people from outside the Western world, just didn't / don't care about shrinks. They just keep on living and fighting.

I don't know why you are attempting to debate me about this. Again I will not pass judgment on him, that is outside of my pay grade. And I don't tell him to man up because I am not a feminist. A reminder that grief is a natural part of life and to seek solace from God is all I have to offer.
 

Phronema

Robin
Orthodox

Psychiatry confuses cause and effect​


The whole field of psychiatry is backward rationalization. They study patients with mental illness, theorize on the biochemical state of their brains, and then shovel them with ultra-addictive drugs to make their brains appear similar to those without mental illness, but this is merely studying the effect of a disorder and then declaring it to be the cause. Their ultimate conclusion is that brain imbalance causes brain imbalance. What science can measure of the brain is not a cause of illness but the effect of illness. In other words, your beliefs, lifestyle, relationships, environment, diet, and faith are the inputs—the true causes—which create the visible brain functioning that scientists can scantily observe and critique, but your brain itself, the very physiology of it, is rarely the organic cause for mental illness.

A psychiatrist will study house fires, notice that firemen always seem to be present at them, and then create a solution to destroy all firehouses, the “obvious” source of fires. A psychiatrist will look at an old car with a broken fuel pump and then try to solve it by filling the gas tank with jet fuel. A psychiatrist will compensate for a cake that is too sweet by sprinkling vinegar on top. They have lost the script when it comes to cause and effect and have applied a one-size-fits-all remedy to anyone who walks through their doors and claims to be “sad” by dosing them with drugs that many will never get off of, a fact that is hidden from the patient. Even general-practice doctors seem to rush to dope up their patients who claim the mildest of fleeting emotional-related phenomena.

Having a “brain chemical imbalance” is often the effect of a faithless or sinful state of existence where depression is due to the consequences of secular life, or one that is far from what God intended. The root cause of emotional malaise must be addressed and then the imbalance will correct itself, but only up to a point because we exist in a post-Adamic fallen state and will not experience heaven or bliss in this life. If you attempt to correct your sadness with drugs, without addressing the root cause, and especially without faith, you merely become a zombie who is still suffering but simply can’t feel it. If I burn myself often while cooking, the solution is better cooking technique, not taking a drug which removes my ability to feel the pain of being burned, because I will simply continue to get burned. In fact, I will be burned even more, and my cooking ability will decrease.

It seems this confusion comes from viewing the body exclusively in an outer, mechanistic lens - from the "objective" lens of science, which merely tries to depict the body and mind technically and biochemically - and then reducing psychology to a subset of man as a biological apparatus. It is a consequence of atheism and materialism, but how many can see it? Science answers how nature works, behaves and what it is made of, not what it is (which is a living experience). If one wants to address the inner cause of a psychological disorder - one must of course do so from an experiental pov, by examining the emotional life and personal history of the patient. In public healthcare, there is not really any place for such spiritual and personal inquiries. The "quick-fix" mostly seems to be CBT - altering the behavioral patterns of the patient, coupled with drugs. There is nothing wrong with that per se - but it does indeed not get to the bottom of the matter. For this, you would need actual psychotherapy, but how many incapacitated mentally ill young adults can afford that? Such private therapy is only available to people who are already established parts of society with a stable income (thus integrated into the system) - not people who are casualties of the system. Traditionally, such a "Jungian" (in modern terms) type of therapy where the therapist truly engages with the patient's life was the role of the priest or spiritual father - for free - and still is, in the Orthodox Church. So you are absolutely right that only the Orthodox Church can save a person's soul today without medicating him or demanding his money. Modern psychiatry is indeed a soul-denying medical sorcery. You are an object, nothing more - yet this kind of soul damning desolation and futility is exactly what most people want. Happy are the monks and hermits who die in peace - far away from modern hospitals.
 
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infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
I think you can find good counselors, particularly at church. There's always a minister, priest, or prayer partner who will talk to you. It doesn't fix everything, but it does help just to talk.

I totally agree that one should avoid pharmaceuticals unless there's no other option. I'm single, live alone, and feeling more and more isolated and borderline depressed with more times of despair. But I have no interest in taking antidepressants. I try to get to the root of my troubles and heal those, pray to God often, be kind and supportive to others, as vulnerable as I can with what I'm going through, patient.

I've feeling pretty down and out lately, and I've been letting more of those feelings out to friends and family. And no surprise, just about everybody's feeling this way, and people seem relieved to have the chance to talk about it. We're all going through these strange times, and sometimes it really helps to just admit how you're feeling and listen to each other.

I also concur about exercise. Even if you aren't going to the gym. Going walking, fishing, boating and camping is far better therapy than any meds or even alcohol.

We aren't built to be just sedentary.
 

Going strong

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
I don't know why you are attempting to debate me about this. Again I will not pass judgment on him, that is outside of my pay grade. And I don't tell him to man up because I am not a feminist. A reminder that grief is a natural part of life and to seek solace from God is all I have to offer.

That's in substance what I said, grief/hardships indeed are a natural part of life. One has to accept them, endure (preferably in silence, or only sharing with one's priest or closest male friends). Going to see a shrink should be unthinkable, at least for people over 35 born in Conservative Christian families, it is.

Where you've lost me is on the "feminist" part.

According to you, saying to someone "man up" is a feminine thing??

I would think quite the contrary. Actually, feminists tell men just the contrary, they tell them that "men cry too, it's OK to cry and be mellow".

And so, according to your logic, the petty officers that told us, in the army, to "man up and shut up" each (unusual) time we soldiers would grumble or complain, were "feminists"?

OK, so I guess in your experience the feminists tell men to "be real men, never cry nor complain nor go see a shrink". In my experience, it's real Conservative men who advise this.

In any case, I maintain that the people most guilty in all this psychiatry thing, are probably not the shrinks themselves (mere crooks, in for the money) but the (adult) Western-world people weak-minded (and spiritually weak, too) enough to go see them, pay them, and gulp down the strange pills they are offered.
 
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Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
lol this is a load of rubbish.

I'm on 7.5mg atm of olazapine for paranoid schizophenia and a other 400mg of sodium valoprate for seizures. they killed people like me back in the day for being demonic. I know the bible quite well. Listening to a false church singer now kari jobes boyfriend. That church named some shit like elevation church its leader pastor said he was God. Prosperity gospel full bore there too. Listen to here again and the lyrics are the Lord is in this place. Pastor must think hes the lord listening to that music all the time.



basically the bible tells you not to fear man but God alone. I got threatened the other week by a transexual in her apartment drinking spirits. I was still thinking after 5 drinks in the space of 2 hours and couldnt get a errection with her until she kicked me out. take me out to the desert and kill me basically was her threat. everyone hates me in the gay club with their 666 bottle upstairs vodka drink.

Basically brahs all this fear is going to smash ya spiritually. you still gotta be wise in a sense and harmless a dove. having a innocent way of being is the key.

children do as they are told by authority. I regularly get kicked out of nightclubs for breaking the rules and been too rude for a gay club even. i get back in or get a ban but authority is respected. Doctors have this authority. Govts have this authority. Mark of the beast is post rapture. yeah yeah bluetooth IDs from vaccines dont know if that true who cares.

anyways have a watch of this guy in this video and have a laugh.



I don't believe in the lie of lordship salvation by the way and im bad to bone. Christ righteousness is what i seek and everything else is added to ya ass. Yeah yeah yeah if you love God you obey his commandments there is serveral hundred of them but base it down to this

Love God and love your neighbour.

have a nice day. don't fear some drug a doctor gives ya like paul didn't worry and fear about a snake biting him.


Sorry for your paranoid schizophrenia, brother. Lord have mercy on you.
 

Tresdus

Woodpecker
I have experience with this. I dated a girl once that was on SSRI's (Effexor). I did a lot of research and developed a protocol to help her come off. It involved about 15 supplements with Omega 3 being the most important for the brain zaps. I tapered her dose down for a couple weeks before coming off completely. I read some online reports from recovering heroin addicts who said coming of this SSRI was worse than the withdrawls from heroin. She had the worst 2 weeks you can imagine after coming off. Constant hot and cold flashes, brutal brain zaps and just no energy. It was very hard to watch. Without all the supplements it would have been impossible. The brain zaps continued for another couple months.

She used to have to sleep 14 hours a day just to function and was still constantly tired. Now she sleeps 8 hours like a normal human being.

And guess what her doctor (not even a GP but a neurologist) recommended? Just quit cold turkey she'll be fine. Roosh is right, never go to a doctor.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
Agree with much of the article with respect to prescriptions and how they only cover over the problem, which may very well be spiritual at it's root.

Psychology is Jewish, it was founded by Jews. It functions as a pathetic proxy for True Faith and Christian Teaching.

- The sacrament of confession with a Priest, is replaced by the couch of a psychologist. In both confession and the psychologists' office, we say what we have done wrong. The Priest offers guidance on overcoming sin, and provides absolution through the Church, the psychologist says "that is ok, tell me more about that"

- The psychological dictionary was introduced in the 1950s I believe. It named things like homosexuality as insanity. However this book, and these laws which dictate sanity, while initially quite similar to biblical values or natural law have been fully turned upside down. Today we are insane for not believing in LGBT rights or climate change.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
That's in substance what I said, grief/hardships indeed are a natural part of life. One has to accept them, endure (preferably in silence, or only sharing with one's priest or closest male friends). Going to see a shrink should be unthinkable, at least for people over 35 born in Conservative Christian families, it is.

Where you've lost me is on the "feminist" part.

According to you, saying to someone "man up" is a feminine thing??

I would think quite the contrary. Actually, feminists tell men just the contrary, they tell them that "men cry too, it's OK to cry and be mellow".

And so, according to your logic, the petty officers that told us, in the army, to "man up and shut up" each (unusual) time we soldiers would grumble or complain, were "feminists"?

OK, so I guess in your experience the feminists tell men to "be real men, never cry nor complain nor go see a shrink". In my experience, it's real Conservative men who advise this.

In any case, I maintain that the people most guilty in all this psychiatry thing, are probably not the shrinks themselves (mere crooks, in for the money) but the (adult) Western-world people weak-minded (and spiritually weak, too) enough to go see them, pay them, and gulp down the strange pills they are offered.

It's because there are so many disingenuous people who say "Man up" but actually mean doing as you are told.

Work as a slave to evil. Or to marry single moms because "That's what a real man does" they redefine masculinity from objective definition to whatever they want it to mean according to their own agendas.

So you have to define "Manning up" like actually directives on how to overcome and according to real masculinity as objectively defined. To distinguish yourself from all those charlatans.
 

Going strong

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
It's because there are so many disingenuous people who say "Man up" but actually mean doing as you are told.

Work as a slave to evil. Or to marry single moms because "That's what a real man does" they redefine masculinity from objective definition to whatever they want it to mean according to their own agendas.

So you have to define "Manning up" like actually directives on how to overcome and according to real masculinity as objectively defined. To distinguish yourself from all those charlatans.
Thanks for this explanation. As I don't live in the States, for me, "man up" really means what it should, what it used to mean: Be a Strong Man who Never Complains and Fight Hard, don't cry and be tough.

How cunning and evil indeed from feminists, to have distorted such a beautiful sentence.

Because to quote your example, to Man Up should mean : do reject with absolute disinterest the too-easy single Moms, and aim for the high-quality, pure women.
 
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scarfaceantonio

Robin
Other Christian
Have you considered the possibility that you need excorcism?

This seems to be pretty clear. Or at least "self-deliverence".... You must kick them out of your (spiritual) house and clean the house. This is more than just "shaking off the Viper". Im optimistic that he can "overcome" and be "made whole" if he is serios about it!

One guy I can recómmend, to check out, might be "Isaiah Saldivar". Just my 2 cents for the moment :).
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Thanks for this explanation. As I don't live in the States, for me, "man up" really means what it should, what it used to mean: Be a Strong Man who Never Complains and Fight Hard, don't cry and be tough.

How cunning and evil indeed from feminists, to have distorted such a beautiful sentence.

Because to quote your example, to Man Up should mean : do reject with absolute disinterest the too-easy single Moms, and aim for the high-quality, pure women.

They even go as far as redefining masculinity as femininity and vice versa. To the wicked. Words are more about manipulation and gaining as well as exerting power rather than truth.

For example they claim to be against Capital punishment. But their outrage is selective against ideological opponents.

They claim to be for diversity yet live in Lily White Gated Communities.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I too believe the root cause of most of our inner turmoil is spiritual in nature. However, I also think we can greatly improve our mental health by identifying our main stressors and trying eliminating them.

For instance, if you worry because of lack of money, would finding a higher paid job reduce your stress a bit?

Or if you live in an apartment and your neighbours drive you nuts or the location is too loud, would moving to a quieter place would make you feel better?

At least that's what I did, addressing one stress point after the other. Now I feel the most peace I ever felt in my entire life thanks be to God.
 
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