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<blockquote data-quote="Ah_Tibor" data-source="post: 1554682" data-attributes="member: 20190">A lot of weird American progressivism--including eugenics--has its roots in Calvinism.What I meant by religious people not necessarily objecting to the *concept* of evolution is that religion follows a long timeline, and one can see how things change over the years. The objection was to saying that since we come from monkeys, certain races and ethnicities are closer to animals, and some are better &quot;evolved.&quot;Sort of like how there's a big difference between genetics and eugenics, even though they're both &quot;based&quot; on the same principle (except one involves God and the other &quot;becoming&quot; a god, or some kind of secular apotheosis).&quot;Better for All is the World&quot; is a worthwhile read. The one thing that worries me is that it ends on some kind of positive note of that it was a good idea taken in the wrong direction, and science (science!) may be fixing its trajectory. I think this garbage is coming back in a big way. I'm not sure why &quot;everything is heritable&quot; is somehow superior to free will.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ah_Tibor, post: 1554682, member: 20190"] A lot of weird American progressivism--including eugenics--has its roots in Calvinism. What I meant by religious people not necessarily objecting to the *concept* of evolution is that religion follows a long timeline, and one can see how things change over the years. The objection was to saying that since we come from monkeys, certain races and ethnicities are closer to animals, and some are better "evolved." Sort of like how there's a big difference between genetics and eugenics, even though they're both "based" on the same principle (except one involves God and the other "becoming" a god, or some kind of secular apotheosis). "Better for All is the World" is a worthwhile read. The one thing that worries me is that it ends on some kind of positive note of that it was a good idea taken in the wrong direction, and science (science!) may be fixing its trajectory. I think this garbage is coming back in a big way. I'm not sure why "everything is heritable" is somehow superior to free will. [/QUOTE]

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