Monkeypox / Smallpox epidemic

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
I guessed everything there is to know about Noah from one photo.

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Even gays are antisemitic.

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Observer

 
Banned
Other Christian
I figure that is what went down with this guy:



This fellows Monkey pox (whatever that is) looks like Herpes.

I wonder if there is some inside joke with the powers that be, linking monkey pox, and the aids epidemic in the 80's that was rumoured to come from monkeys. Monkey business indeed.
 

Caduceus

Ostrich
This fellows Monkey pox (whatever that is) looks like Herpes.

I wonder if there is some inside joke with the powers that be, linking monkey pox, and the aids epidemic in the 80's that was rumoured to come from monkeys. Monkey business indeed.

Yes, I remember that from the 80s...telling everyone AIDS (which in the early 80s was still called GRIDS as it only affected faggots) came from monkeys. Meaning the whole thing started with bestiality.
 

Gimlet

Pelican
Yes, I remember that from the 80s...telling everyone AIDS (which in the early 80s was still called GRIDS as it only affected faggots) came from monkeys. Meaning the whole thing started with bestiality.

No, actually it was a polio vaccine experiment being cultured in monkey kidney cells.
 

Gimlet

Pelican
Was it later injected directly into humans ? Or was bestiality still required ?

It was given to humans. Either IV or by respiration, I forget.

This Rolling Stone article (they did real journalism log ago) made me an antivaxxer when it was published in 1992. Here is the text; this article caused a huge uproar and would have been "fact checked" in today's world.


Shockingly, an old WaPo article came up when I searched for the Rolling Stone article. Back when WaPo was a real newspaper.


This popped up on my search too, from 1997;


The possibility of such a polio vaccine-acquired immune deficiency syndrome connection is a reminder of the unpredictable danger of artificially crossing natural species-barriers in biomedical laboratories.

Of course we know from fact checkers that VAIDS is a conspiracy theory.
 

Caduceus

Ostrich
It was given to humans. Either IV or by respiration, I forget.

This Rolling Stone article (they did real journalism log ago) made me an antivaxxer when it was published in 1992. Here is the text; this article caused a huge uproar and would have been "fact checked" in today's world.


Shockingly, an old WaPo article came up when I searched for the Rolling Stone article. Back when WaPo was a real newspaper.


This popped up on my search too, from 1997;




Of course we know from fact checkers that VAIDS is a conspiracy theory.


Fascinating stuff.
That old Washington Post article from 1992 mentions Anthony Fauci being involved.


These are the parts I found most interesting

...it was later discovered that monkey kidneys used in vaccine production often contained previously unknown monkey viruses, some of which could infect people -- and in fact had done so. Researchers identified scores of simian viruses (SVs) in the kidneys of monkeys, commonly used to culture polio vaccine.

....Africa's AIDS epidemic was spawned by a contaminated polio vaccine administered from 1957 to 1960 to at least 325,000 people in Rwanda, Burundi and the former Belgian Congo. This is precisely the region where the AIDS epidemic rages most fiercely and from which many experts believe it spread.

He has computed that the common ancestor of the half dozen variants of today's primary AIDS virus, HIV-1, entered the human population about 1960.

Kyle theorized that the AIDS epidemic among American male homosexuals could have been accidentally started in the mid-1970s by an experimental treatment for herpes lesions used in New York and California. The treatment: double doses, twice as often as used for polio vaccination, of the Sabin oral polio vaccine.

Kyle -- a lawyer who bases his theory on evidence obtained in discovery from polio compensation cases -- thinks the Sabin vaccine was contaminated with monkey retroviruses. A spokesman for Lederle Laboratories, the only U.S. manufacturer of oral polio vaccines since the mid-1970s, told me that since 1985, when sensitive new testing procedures were instituted, Lederle has sometimes found SIV in early stages of its vaccine production process. The spokesman said such contaminated materials are eliminated when found.

What about vaccine produced and administered before 1985? The FDA's Division of Produce Quality Control has stored samples of polio vaccine since 1976. Fauci, director of both the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and NIH's Office of AIDS Research, told me: "If there are {polio vaccine samples} from back then, it would seem reasonable to go back and test them using our modern techniques."
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Fascinating stuff.
That old Washington Post article from 1992 mentions Anthony Fauci being involved.


These are the parts I found most interesting
Fauci has been up to his neck in questionable or abominable vaccine projects for decades. RFK Jr. wrote a book on this, which condemns Fauci in the harshest terms, basically saying he has the blood of millions on his hands from his role in the AIDS epidemic. RFK has previously written another book against vaccines as well. RFK's point is not so much that vaccines are inherently bad, but that the drug companies have rushed testing of vaccines, and have falsified results to get them approved. Whereas there were once a small handful of vaccines required for children, such as polio and measles, there are now upwards of 30 of them, being pushed as a big pharma profit center with lots of corners cut in their development.

This article does a good job of summarizing and discussing RFK's book.

 
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Gimlet

Pelican
Fascinating stuff.
That old Washington Post article from 1992 mentions Anthony Fauci being involved.


These are the parts I found most interesting

"OK Boomer" was a great way to discredit people old enough to remember this crime against humanity and the ghoul Fauci himself. Younger boomers/older Gen X (me) remembers this quite clearly.
 

Gimlet

Pelican
Do also you remember AIDS in the early 1980s being called "GRID", or "gay-related immune deficiency" and then the name being changed ?
Yes I do. I have mentioned it here a couple of years ago:

I too remember these days, getting tested after shagging a bunch of club slags, waiting anxiously for the results for two weeks. We were all told any day we would catch AIDS and die. But of the course truth was, don't be a homosexual, and don't have sex with homosexuals (as the lady on this cover of People did). When AIDS was called GRID, it was a much more appropriate name. I am quite sure you are right, same old deception as before.
 

Caduceus

Ostrich
This is why I hate "OK Boomer" so much. No one wants to ask an elder, and so history repeats itself.

Boomers like you, who were/are into NON mainstream beliefs have always been very few and far between.
It's like the moon landing....I'm sure there's SOME boomers who don't believe it happened, but I can't imagine it being more than 5%.

I myself have a distant boomer relative who (in the pre-internet days) got rid of his television, had subscriptions to poorly printed newsletters from counter culture sources, and refused to send his kids to public school and used Waldorf (Steiner) schools instead. Pretty amazing for the time, but he sacrificed a lot of friendships for his "alternative" views, and his family essentially were seen as the "neighbourhood weirdos." In the pre-internet days finding people with similar "niche" views was nearly impossible.

The point I'm trying to make is that 90% of boomers gave Generation X and millenials really terrible advice that doesn't work in the real world, and have always just followed what TV and mainstream media was telling them. And most boomers (not all) are still giving life awful advice today. So after a while you just stop asking cause it's not easy to find those 5% of boomers who have alternative (non mainstream) views. On a side note, it would be interesting to know how many boomers actually refused all vaccines in the last 2 years during the coronavirus lockdowns...again I'm sure the numbers no higher than 5%.

Also, keep in mind Generation X is now aged 40s to 60s, and no one asks us for life advice either.
 
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Gimlet

Pelican
Boomers like you, who were/are into NON mainstream beliefs have always been very few and far between.
It's like the moon landing....I'm sure there's SOME boomers who don't believe it happened, but I can't imagine it being more than 5%.


Also, keep in mind Generation X is now aged 40s to 60s, and no one asks us for life advice either.

I am not a Boomer, I am Gen X. Smack dab in the middle Gen X. And agreed, no one asks me for life advice. But that's why I now ask boomers for advice, and if I hadn't my business would have gone under a couple of years ago.

I don't want to rehash the same old debate for the 10th time so I'll just skip the rest of your post, no offense.
 
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