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<blockquote data-quote="Nicolás Gómez Dávila" data-source="post: 1348006" data-attributes="member: 18981">Withholding game from women during the initial courtship is reminiscent of a woman withholding sex from a man for 9 dates plus, in order to see if he is truly interested in a long-term relationship. For women this strategy is basically fool-proof; for men I think it has a couple of small disadvantages:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">A woman may be looking for a provider to later cheat on. In this scenario your lack of game will only embolden her because it signals to her that you&#039;re not socially savvy enough to pick up on the small cues that would usually give her away.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">It may repel women who are genuinely looking for a long-term and loyal relationship. Although somewhat superficial, some things like posture and social ability are things that are somewhat linked to your ability to lead others, have a successful career, and your willingness to stand up to others and defend yourself and family.</li>
</ol>Disadvantage #1 is not that big of a deal because a woman like this will eventually give herself away. With regards to disadvantage #2, I think a way to solve it would be to intentionally avoid game elements that focus on giving her tingles, but maintain those elements which would be attractive and congruent in a Christian man.Lastly, and this is something I&#039;m still struggling with, is the question of approaching women. Does it make sense to keep our approaching abilities sharp in order to be able to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves? Should we give up the idea of approaching women altogether and focus on meeting women through our Church community, volunteering events, etc...?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nicolás Gómez Dávila, post: 1348006, member: 18981"] Withholding game from women during the initial courtship is reminiscent of a woman withholding sex from a man for 9 dates plus, in order to see if he is truly interested in a long-term relationship. For women this strategy is basically fool-proof; for men I think it has a couple of small disadvantages: [LIST=1] [*]A woman may be looking for a provider to later cheat on. In this scenario your lack of game will only embolden her because it signals to her that you're not socially savvy enough to pick up on the small cues that would usually give her away. [*]It may repel women who are genuinely looking for a long-term and loyal relationship. Although somewhat superficial, some things like posture and social ability are things that are somewhat linked to your ability to lead others, have a successful career, and your willingness to stand up to others and defend yourself and family. [/LIST] Disadvantage #1 is not that big of a deal because a woman like this will eventually give herself away. With regards to disadvantage #2, I think a way to solve it would be to intentionally avoid game elements that focus on giving her tingles, but maintain those elements which would be attractive and congruent in a Christian man. Lastly, and this is something I'm still struggling with, is the question of approaching women. Does it make sense to keep our approaching abilities sharp in order to be able to take advantage of opportunities that present themselves? Should we give up the idea of approaching women altogether and focus on meeting women through our Church community, volunteering events, etc...? [/QUOTE]

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