Mother attempts "postnatal" abortion in McDonald's toilet

Number one bummer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
McDonald's employee gives birth and tries to flush infant down toilet, D.A. says

A McDonald’s cashier is facing an attempted murder charge after giving birth to a boy while at work and then trying to flush the newborn down a toilet inside the Redwood City restaurant, prosecutors said.

Sarah Lockner was working as a cashier at the McDonald’s restaurant on Chestnut Street on the evening of Sept. 4 when she complained of stomach pain, according to the San Mateo County district attorney’s office.

During her night shift, prosecutors said, the 25-year-old Redwood City woman visited the restaurant’s bathroom multiple times, to the concern of a co-worker.

When the co-worker entered the bathroom to check on Lockner, prosecutors said, there was blood on the floor.

Lockner tried to dismiss the bloody mess and blamed it on a heavy period, prosecutors said.

But Lockner’s behavior had drawn the attention of a second co-worker, who also decided to check on her.

The second employee walked into the bathroom, peered over Lockner’s stall and “saw a newborn baby face down in toilet bowl,” prosecutors said.

Lockner had her hand on the baby’s back, according to the district attorney’s office. The employee then heard the toilet flush.

Lockner pleaded with her co-worker, asking her not to call police, prosecutors said.

Police arrived later to find the baby in Lockner’s arms, San Mateo County Dist. Atty. Steve Wagstaffe told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday.

The baby had no pulse and was not breathing, so officers performed CPR and rushed the infant to Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital in Palo Alto, he said.

The infant is alive and in stable condition, but the extent of the baby’s brain injuries was not known, Wagstaffe said.

Lockner claimed she didn’t know she was pregnant, prosecutors said.

She has been charged with felony child abuse and inflicting great bodily injury, along with the attempted murder charge, prosecutors said.

Lockner is scheduled to be arraigned in San Mateo County court on Sept. 18. She is being held on $11 million bail.

$11 million is a crazy bail, so I'm guessing there are some aggravating circumstances that were not released. Hopefully the child will have a father, but I doubt it, her picture spells single mother. I've never bought the whole "I didn't know I was pregnant" claims.
 

kinjutsu

Pelican
Lock the bitch up. Throw away the fucking key.
This is some heartless bullshit.
Killing your own child...hope the bitch burns in hell.

11 million is too low for bail. Keep her in custody under suicide watch until trail.
 
Suits said:
Women are more nurturing.
IN theory they are but they also do most child abuse and they kill far more of their own children than men.

Child raising and human life is team-effort of man and woman. We work as a couple in a stable environment - not as single-mothers in a dystopian feminist shithole.
 

Poker

Woodpecker
What an evil piece of shit, the true definition of it.

Let's go over the rationalisations that many will offer for the horrific actions of this woman:

'She was the victim of abuse'
'She was stressed'
'She was going through a divorce'
'She was pressurised into doing it'
'Trump left her feeling hopeless'
 

brick tamland

Kingfisher
Absolutely shocking. There was always another way out of her situation like giving it up for adoption. F*ck the lies about not knowing she was pregnant. The real issue is the helpless newborn's health. Maybe there will be a miracle.
 

realologist

Ostrich
Gold Member
As a man that has two kids. If you're first thought is to drown the baby in a toilet you are a pure evil piece of shit that doesn't need to be alive.
 

Robert High Hawk

Kingfisher
I want be clear that I echo everyone's pure disgust at this story. It's a blessing that this child survived however, and we can only pray that the baby did not suffer much brain damage.

That said, aside from the crude manner in which this was done, what's the difference between this and partial birth abortions? We are more outraged because this is unusual and sensational, but why isn't there a story like this for every woman who lets a doctor open slice open thier fully formed baby's head and suck the brain out? Or perhaps the "doctors" and clinics themselves?
 
Robert High Hawk said:
That said, aside from the crude manner in which this was done, what's the difference between this and partial birth abortions? We are more outraged because this is unusual and sensational, but why isn't there a story like this for every woman who lets a doctor open slice open thier fully formed baby's head and suck the brain out? Or perhaps the "doctors" and clinics themselves?
Haven't you learned anything from Planned Parenthood? Clumps of cells, dude. It's basically like blowing your nose. Going to Gosnell's clinic was like going for a pedicure. :dodgy:

(then again, I suppose it's different for those of us who've seen their kids' heartbeat via ultrasound at 8 weeks old)
 
Number one bummer said:
I've never bought the whole "I didn't know I was pregnant" claims.
I've often wondered about that and, as incredible as it may seem, I can still believe that there are females out there who really are that out of touch with their body that they didn't know.
 

Horus

Ostrich
Gold Member
ed pluribus unum said:
Number one bummer said:
I've never bought the whole "I didn't know I was pregnant" claims.
I've often wondered about that and, as incredible as it may seem, I can still believe that there are females out there who really are that out of touch with their body that they didn't know.
I think I've mentioned on this forum before. I used to know a female doctor who worked in a hospital in Auckland NZ, in an area with a high number of Pacific Islanders. And Pacific Island women are some of the fattest women on the planet. She told me that it was suprisingly common for fat-asses to be admitted to hospital with abdominal pains, only to discover that they were about to give birth.
 

heavy

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Zelcorpion said:
Suits said:
Women are more nurturing.
IN theory they are but they also do most child abuse and they kill far more of their own children than men.

Child raising and human life is team-effort of man and woman. We work as a couple in a stable environment - not as single-mothers in a dystopian feminist shithole.
True. Men tend to kill step-children, children of other men...not unlike lions and bears and dolphins.
 

Belgrano

Ostrich
Gold Member
ed pluribus unum said:
Number one bummer said:
I've never bought the whole "I didn't know I was pregnant" claims.
I've often wondered about that and, as incredible as it may seem, I can still believe that there are females out there who really are that out of touch with their body that they didn't know.
It's called "being a disgustingly fat landwhale".
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
Robert High Hawk said:
I want be clear that I echo everyone's pure disgust at this story. It's a blessing that this child survived however, and we can only pray that the baby did not suffer much brain damage.

That said, aside from the crude manner in which this was done, what's the difference between this and partial birth abortions? We are more outraged because this is unusual and sensational, but why isn't there a story like this for every woman who lets a doctor open slice open thier fully formed baby's head and suck the brain out? Or perhaps the "doctors" and clinics themselves?
None.
 
At $40k per year, per inmate in Californa, I say we give her capital punishment and save the taxpayers money. This is happens without patriarchal family structure. 100% bet the "dad" wasn't in the picture, and she thought I'm not doing this solo, so let's flush the brat away. What a stone cold monster.
 

heavy

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Robert High Hawk said:
...
what's the difference between this and partial birth abortions? We are more outraged because this is unusual and sensational, but why isn't there a story like this for every woman who lets a doctor open slice open thier fully formed baby's head and suck the brain out? Or perhaps the "doctors" and clinics themselves?
There's not.

But your question tells how liberals have no morals. To them, abortion is completely about legality and not about morals or ethics. Their is a growth of cells and then, in a moment, upon passing through the birth canal, the growth of cells turns into a baby.

In other words, a lack of nuance.

The conservative says, abortion is awful and should be discouraged. Life is important, and while we can debate how many weeks along we should legally allow doctors to allow killing an unborn fetus, it's not something that we should promote or (gasp) for which taxes should support. Perhaps we make it 20 weeks? No. How about we let each state decide when we should allow termination? That seems reasonable.

Giving 9 dudes in robes to force all states to allow abortions up until birth...well, that's simply a lack of nuance, and not good for the stability of a huge diverse nation.
 
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