"Muscle barbie" combines power building with feminine mystique

[Repo]

Yeah I've done a 16 week cycle that left me with massive gains (which I have since lost), total cost was $375. I can't imagine where $10k would go.

 

[DeusLuxMeaEst]

Girl is revolting and definitely juicing, there's no way she has this physique naturally.

Sexual attraction is polarized for the most part. Every male and female has a percentage of masculine and feminine essence. Some guys are highly masculine and maybe their ratio is 80/20, or 90/10. I don't think anyone is 100/0 either way. Even the most masculine guy demonstrates traditional 'feminine' traits like understanding, compassion, empathy. Personally I rate high on masculinity so I like and get along with very feminine women in both personality and looks.

I'd bet that the guys who are into this sort of look have a more feminine than masculine essence or maybe 50/50. I mean guys who are actually attracted to this sort of body...not the guy who just wants to bang her for the novelty of it. Nothing wrong with that, but she's 100% WNB for me.

 

[TravelerKai]

< I heard from semi-pro bodybuilders that sucking dick is a way how many make money. With each bodybuilding competition there are a ton of old gay guys who come and have a fetish for bodybuilders. Since the gear costs 10.000$ per month for those who want to make it big, then many jump on the dick-sucking-train.

Of course not all do it - but many.

As for women - the level of testosterone speeds up their libido tremendously, I think that the muscle barbie goes the TagTheSponsor route or has one or few sponsors locally - that isn't so difficult frankly. If she goes out looking, then she can find easily someone who pays her bills and fucks her anytime he chooses. She is attractive enough for that - most girls are not given 8-level-faces.

 

[kosko]

Steroids don't cost a lot of money in Russia or Asia, they make them in bathtubs or steal them or use bovine hormones.

The girl is 1000% roiding.

They don't cost money to you as a Westerner or as a local?

When I was in Africa, everything was "cheap" to me. I had enough cash to have a private driver and buy him dinner. What was the cost of a hamburger combo to me was a weeks salary to the guy.

I don't buy the idea that gear is pennies, even in America/West dudes struggling to keep up with gear costs. This broad might have some coin, she maybe does webcam stuff or other means of "freelance" on the side, who knows really, but I don't agree the stuff is cheap to the average local in Russia or Asia.

Varying levels of quality will have different price points, you start pumping raw bovine shit into you, and the side-effects from bad batches will be more frequent. I bring up shit like acne because acne is not a by-product of rods more-so then it is an indicator of stressors in the body and a reaction from them. You pump dirty shit into you and your body will let you know about it.

The only stuff that is truly "cheap" in developing countries is stuff that is outside of any means of production. Crops and what, not that grow locally, or stuff you can access yourself with no middle man. Anything that involves a means of production that is put into its cost will escalate it and become something locals can or can't afford. The chicken some local kills, or buys literally from the dude who killed it that morning, can flip it for a meal on the street, that is cheap. But you talking even bathroom elixirs of things that will have more steps in processing, it will has costs, it won't be cheap for locals.

I read lots good rebuttals but nobody touching on the price aspect which I view as the biggest hurdle.

The next thing is that it is true women can develop muscle quicker than men. Women have muscle mass that is tiny versus a man, the effort they put in to break down and repair smaller muscles simply takes less time. Yes women have higher fat levels to deal with and cutting is much more difficult, yes women also have lower test as well, b ut the truth is tiny muscles will take less time to develop. The anecdotes are all around me of women who pick up dumbells and are competition ready in less than 2 years while men slog away for 6+ years to get the same level. The woman I casually train get noticeable results very quickly, much more quickly then I ever could.

 

[Fortis]

Zelc might not be exaggerating. Beyond just steroids, there are A LOT of costs that go into being a pro bodybuilder. Think about it.

Flight expenses to the shows leading up the Olympia. All those invitational contests are probably expensive.

If you're trying to go pro you are NOT working a full-time job. You need rent money and, more importantly, food money.
I'm just a casual lifter and sometimes my food bill seems a bit cray. If you were trying to go pro I imagine you are spending some serious cash on food and supplements.

Don't' also forget your training fees. You are paying someone to make sure that you walk onto stage looking as big and as lean as possible. That shit ain't free. Good trainers cost a pretty penny. Amazing trainers who help you win the Olympia probably cost something insane.

Some pros also go get lots of massagers to help their bodies deal with the massive amounts of abuse them put themselves though.

This is just all the shit I can think of off the top of my head.

Being a professional bodybuilder is expensive and quite cost prohibitive. That's why Kai Greene was doing gay porn and shit for extra money.

By the way, they call those old gay dudes who pay for all this stuff "schmoes (SP?)" or something like that. Pro bodybuilding is a pretty seedy sport. Lots of occult shit going on.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

Too much surgery, cheekbones, lips, chin - she's about an 8 now and will hit the wall hard. [/pointyelbows]

This isn't to criticize the girl or anyone's opinions.
Rather, that modern society is so fucked up across the board; that if you told me this Svetlana Bilyalova was a Thai lady boy...
I wouldn't necessarily doubt it...

 

[kosko]

I've heard about bodybuilders having to sink 5k+ a month into all costs for traning which likely includes the gear. Food alone is almost 1000 if they eat super clean and natural with a meal prep service.

Zel is correct that tons do gay for pay. Many bodybuilders do webcam shows for rich gay men who pay for private chats. The worst ones do phtoshoots with the most unhinged doing videos and pornos.

For the women it is almost expected. They maybe won't fuck clients but they will do domination, rub and tugs, and if the money is good they will peg cuckold men who pay top dolled to be dominated by beast women.

The hobby isn't cheap and if it drives people here in the West to turn into sex trade slaves then what does it do for village lady in the middle of Russia?

This is why I bring up costs. If people here go to such degeneration for gear what is going on in developing parts of the globe?

What is cheap for us, isn't always cheap for them. When I was in Africa fresh meals were dirt cheap for me, like $2-3 for a home cooked meal. To a local it is a splurge that would equal a days salary. So even if gear is on discount there it would still be a large money sink for a local.

 

[TravelerKai]

^ Funny you guys mention this stuff. I used to lift with some guys that were amateur level BB that did the small shows and whatnot. They were all like me, six figure dudes with day jobs, that lifted like maniacs at night. We all had high food and supplement costs (except for the natural circuit ones), but we could afford it. Those Natural circuit guys had to pay more for doping tests if I recall correctly.

Coming from the MMA world, I know the costs of amateur and pro level training, so at the time, it never surprised me. Anytime I would ask some of them, why they would not go pro, they would laugh at me and say it wasn't worth it. Back then I just assumed that unlike MMA, where at least back then, you could do a handful of small shows a year, teach MMA or BJJ on the side, give private lessons, spar dummy for a local champ/pro, do local sponsorships (if you are a hustler), just long enough till you could get a tryout for UFC, Pride, Bellator, or small local leagues (like King of the Cage, etc).

If you keep winning, it tends to snowball and collect. In some ways it gets way worse money wise (like upgrading to a higher end camp or boxing instructor) just to stay in a certain range until you get to the next level.

What do Bodybuilders have though? They don't seem to have a UFC or small circuit where they could fight 6-10 times a year and always get a check. I'd imagine if you did not win at a show in the first 3 places, you get no money at all. At least an MMA fighter can show up, get his ass kicked, and still get a check. Might not get another fight there, but at least he got something. If you had a Forrest Griffin vs. Stefan Bonnar epic fist fight and the crowd went nuts and it got run on the internet, you could get a contract even if you lost!

Tough deal for bodybuilders to end up doing porn/escorting. That's not only disgusting, but hard to hear. Maybe just to me, because I had no idea it was anywhere near that bad.

 

[Fortis]

Well, a lot of the lower level guys (CT fletcher, Mike Rashid, Matt Ogus, Chris Jones) hire themselves out as "natty" trainers and make bank off of naive 16-year-olds who think they can be 6'0 250 pounds all natural at 8% body fat. :LOL:

A lot of those guys mentioned above, turn up their noses at the Mr. Olympias because they're "on roids" but if you look at how big Chris Jones is, he's as heavy as an ex Mr. Olympia (before insulin abuse became a big thing in the sport) so it's all just a big hustle.

Many of them also have clothing brands and some even make supplements for themselves. IIRC, Zyzz was gonna make his own protein brand before he died and he wasn't even a physique competitor, just a handsome kid who liked steroids, hot bitches and posting funny memes online.

The internet has enabled bodybuilding tremendously but it's a lot like internet marketing but body oriented.

Rich Piana is a prime example of this. Ex competitor he parlayed that into a small-time acting career and then his own supplement line.

 

[Enigma]

She has sponsorships from multiple fitness/supplement brands, that's why she tags #gometal and #primevallabs in most of her pics and wears their gear, as well as specifically plugging other products.

She has almost 500,000 followers and average well over 20k+ likes per photo. She's getting paid thousands for every pic she posts on Instagram, not to mention she probably gets most of their products for free.

 

[TravelerKai]

She has sponsorships from multiple fitness/supplement brands, that's why she tags #gometal and #primevallabs in most of her pics and wears their gear, as well as specifically plugging other products.

She has almost 500,000 followers and average well over 20k+ likes per photo. She's getting paid thousands for every pic she posts on Instagram, not to mention she probably gets most of their products for free.

Do people on Instagram get paid like Youtubers do for uploading content (photos in this case)?

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

She has sponsorships from multiple fitness/supplement brands, that's why she tags #gometal and #primevallabs in most of her pics and wears their gear, as well as specifically plugging other products.

She has almost 500,000 followers and average well over 20k+ likes per photo. She's getting paid thousands for every pic she posts on Instagram, not to mention she probably gets most of their products for free.

Do people on Instagram get paid like Youtubers do for uploading content (photos in this case)?

You don't have fixed advertising income like in Youtube, but you can make a lot if you have a sufficiently big fan-base since you reach a certain amount of people. In effect you become like a brand or a newspaper that reaches an x-amount of consumers.

O'Neill delves into these social media sponsorships in-depth, describing how, at 16 and with 50,000 followers, she charged $50 a post to help sell $150 bikinis; others with a similar following, she learned, were charging $500. As her numbers grew, so too did her paid endorsements.

There are claims that some Instagram models made millions off it and still do, this usually involves opening a connected business. Frankly nothing pays so fast for them than to get shit on by clients.

 

[zatara]

Do people on Instagram get paid like Youtubers do for uploading content (photos in this case)?

Social media can be quite profitable if done smartly.

This muscle barbie is horrifying looking, but given she has supplement sponsors and a big social media presence I'd say she could be earning $40k a year from it. Thats before any competitions (or hooking), too.

Not a huge salary by any means, but more than enough to pay for a decent lifestyle (and plenty of gear) in a low cost of living country like Russia.

 

[kosko]

You make big money off YouTube if you have the high amount of followers. Instagram isn't so much, all the deals are dependent in what you sign and many times it is just free shit they give you, not actual money.

For a Kardashian and Chantel Jeffries a small company can't afford them. I see it no different then club sponsers appearance fees which would be 10k some celebs. People think that price is low but if they cover everything and all you have to do is show up and party for 3hrs it is easy money.

I don't believe the Russian girl rolling in cash. That other one posted looks like she got money as she has the high end whore look. That village muscle Barbie still got basic clothes and what not. Girls start dressing a certain way when they get paid on that level. I am sure she is getting some cash from social media but we are over estimating. Many just get free shit and are happy with that.

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As far as BBs go. Ogus has made known he hasn't been natty, he also been linked to gay for pay shit so I don't assume he is clean. Mike Rashid with his squats everyday and endocrine burnout routines it was hard to believe he was natty, the recent drug bust that exposed me to his old shady past as Cinriq just cemented that. Chris Jones is natty, he is the same height as me, his body looks realistic. He has been lifting 10+ years now at a high level. You have seen him progresses from Walmart protein to having a BMW and using designer shit and his own gym now, he is getting good money from YouTube and fitness consulting.

Some of these YouTube guys if you see then in person are not that big. I seen Furious Pete at a Raptor game one time and was surprised has normal he looked. He was jacked as hell, but I know dudes who are bigger.

 

[Enigma]

She has sponsorships from multiple fitness/supplement brands, that's why she tags #gometal and #primevallabs in most of her pics and wears their gear, as well as specifically plugging other products.

She has almost 500,000 followers and average well over 20k+ likes per photo. She's getting paid thousands for every pic she posts on Instagram, not to mention she probably gets most of their products for free.

Do people on Instagram get paid like Youtubers do for uploading content (photos in this case)?

Not as much as Youtubers, but then again they invest way less time in a selfie than someone does in a video. Many of the people with her level of following are making a few grand or more for every sponsored post.

Another thing about this chick is that she's very niche and seems to get a pretty high level of engagement. I'm sure she can make enough to pay for some gear and a gym membership in Russia.

 

[CaptainS]

$10K a month is only if you're doing growth and only for the few months leading to a major competition. Standard roids aren't anywhere close to that. This girl is probably only doing a single-med cycle twice a year, I doubt she's paying more than $1000 a year. Her iPhone probably cost more.

Pros are pushing the limit of their bodies so, on top of the drugs themselves, they also have constant doctor visits and blood tests to make sure their liver and kidney functions aren't shot. None of that is covered by insurance of course so the out of pocket expense is yuge.

An average pro can run $8-15K for a 16 week, pre-competition cycle and much lower when not competing. Some dudes are up to $20k if they get their Growth from a pharmacy and can find a doctor dumb enough to write the script. Again, this will be the same doctor who's monitoring blood work so he's assuming a TON of risk.

 

[Fortis]

Stabbin, the top of the top are on growth year around. They don't' do sloppy bulks anymore. That's a relic of the past. Many of them build up their base and cruise on low dosages year around and then when contest time comes up they blast themselves.

They do A LOT of GH and Insulin and keep the dosages on other things reasonably low once they build their base up.

I have friends who are NOWHERE NEAR professional level and they are on GH all year around. A close friend of mine does about $20 worth of GH every single day. You must shoot it everyday according to him and he's not that big. Maybe 105kg at 5'7-8. Guys like Phil Heath are only 5'9 but walk around at nearly 300 pounds on the off-season. That isn't just "Genetics." That's daily GH use.

That (and insulin) is one of the reasons why they are able to be 300+ pounds on the off season. If you took GH and insulin off the table those guys would shrink down by like 50+ pounds of muscle.

 

[zatara]

Stabbin, the top of the top are on growth year around. They don't' do sloppy bulks anymore. That's a relic of the past. Many of them build up their base and cruise on low dosages year around and then when contest time comes up they blast themselves.

They do A LOT of GH and Insulin and keep the dosages on other things reasonably low once they build their base up.

I have friends who are NOWHERE NEAR professional level and they are on GH all year around. A close friend of mine does about $20 worth of GH every single day. You must shoot it everyday according to him and he's not that big. Maybe 105kg at 5'7-8. Guys like Phil Heath are only 5'9 but walk around at nearly 300 pounds on the off-season. That isn't just "Genetics." That's daily GH use.

That (and insulin) is one of the reasons why they are able to be 300+ pounds on the off season. If you took GH and insulin off the table those guys would shrink down by like 50+ pounds of muscle.

All these additional chemicals are what have ruined modern bodybuilding. I know guys like Arnold or Frank Columbo were on a heap of steroids, but they at least looked human - just like exaggerated cartoon character humans.

The GH/Insulin guys are absolute monsters, and not in a good way. The distended stomachs just look awful.

Thats 3x Mr Olympia Frank Zane from the 1970s vs 6x Mr Olympia Phil Heath from this decade - look at the difference.

They really need to start putting the emphasis back on things other than just pure size.

The added cost of all these new chemicals is probably pushing more and more of them into the gay porn/gay hooking stuff too, which is very unfortunate.

 

[TravelerKai]

That guy on the right reminds me of Big Poppa Pump (AKA Scott Steiner) with that giant lump on his bicep that looks like a third scoop of ice cream.

Those biceps used to freak people out back in the glory days of the WWF. His biceps were even bigger than Lex Luger's back then, and that was saying something.

I always wondered what Scott Steiner was taking. The roid use was tremendously obvious. Was that GH/Insulin stuff in use back in 2001-2002?

 

[Snowflake]

zatara, the guy in your pic is Ronnie Coleman, not Phil Heath

EDIT: I feel like we are veering into bro-science territory real quick with this thread. This is not to discredit any of the posters, but I wish we could get a real steroid user like Steelex to chime in on this thread.