My father is schedule to take the vaccine, please help me with some talking points...

FrancisK

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Thank you so much. I'll see what I can do. His and my mother's primary reason for taking seems to be that they think they're "saving lives" of others by taking it, even though that makes no sense to me as until the "pandemic" hit no one was saying how taking any kind of vaccine protects others. It was always about protecting the individual who took it. I don't know where this false idea emanated from but it is obviously meant to appeal to people's wish to feel virtuous about themselves. But I'm glad to hear your own father backed away from taking it. That is an answer to prayers, I'm sure.

I think telling that you love them and you don’t want anything to happen to them, your priority is them and not others would go a long way. At the least make it into a compromise where they wait and see what happens down the line. Come from a place or compassion and love for them as their son don’t make it about political agendas, facts and figures. I think that will go a long way in regards to it if they are already brainwashed by the media, you’re their son and they love you don’t let them see it as they are doing something wrong instead appeal that they would be smart and responsible to the people they love if they wait it out a little.
 

Nmnk62

Chicken
I think telling that you love them and you don’t want anything to happen to them, your priority is them and not others would go a long way. At the least make it into a compromise where they wait and see what happens down the line. Come from a place or compassion and love for them as their son don’t make it about political agendas, facts and figures. I think that will go a long way in regards to it if they are already brainwashed by the media, you’re their son and they love you don’t let them see it as they are doing something wrong instead appeal that they would be smart and responsible to the people they love if they wait it out a little.
Thanks. You make a good point. Should I bring the whole subject up with them again, I'll use that angle. I think they MIGHT be persuaded to wait a bit longer. With my father at least, much of what transpires depends on what mood he's in when I bring the subject up with him. He sometimes surprises me by agreeing with me on something or being open to something.
 

Aloha50

Pigeon
My little sister just called and gave me the heads up that my father is schedule to take the vaccine Wednesday, today is Monday.

My family is conservative and my father is an intelligent man, he was actually calling it all a government hoax before it hit. Back when we were just starting to hear about it happening in China while I was trying to convince him that it was something to have some concern about, my how things have changed! Anyway, my dad is normally very skeptical of medicine and the government but that got tossed out the window when his oldest brother took the vaccine....my father looks up to his oldest brother and if he took it then my father should take it too.

My father listens to me and will hear what I have to say I know that much, it will have weight to him I’m his only son. The thing is my father is off the boat and while again very intelligent, man used to do to calculus’s homework while speaking crappy English haha, quoting studies to him and things of that nature won’t have much of an impact....he doesn’t trust that garbage anyway. It needs to be more general and not fantastical, here is what I have so far:

-The government wants to control the population (something he has always said himself)

- The vaccine was rushed with the stipulation that the pharma companies can’t be sued for complications and they are making billions from it (he’s a business man that’s a good one)

- You can still get covid after taking the vaccine they are saying so what’s the point

- You still have to have all the covid restrictions so

- Nobody knows what the vaccine will do in the future (obvious one)

- He’s 66 years old and healthy, not at any risk of dying even if he doesn’t get covid

- I had covid and it wasn’t even as bad as a mild flu

- I don’t want him to die (this will hit him hard as well, we don’t normally do emotions in my family)



What else guys? Please help me out here, again needs to be more general and common sense rather than studies, stats, special media crap and things of that nature....

Thank you!
My Dad and step mom (mid\upper 70's) got the Moderna vax about a month ago. After second shot, both got really sick for a day then fine the next. But, my sister (43) got it as well. After the second shot she got really sick with a temp over 105 at one point...sick for about 3 days. If my folks had gotten as sick as her they probably wouldn't have made it.
 

bmw633

Woodpecker
My 91 year old mother took her first CV vaccine dose on a Monday in January, and tested positive for CV19 that Friday. I think it was a false positive, since she had NO Symptoms, fever.
 

renotime

Ostrich
Gold Member
My dad got vaxxed twice and still wears his mask in places that aren't even required. The man loves rules. He was so excited about his vax he texted me when he got it. His wife did, too.

If you're really trying to talk him out of getting vaxxed, Alex Berenson has a lot of data on it. He's on twitter.
 
My dad got vaxxed twice and still wears his mask in places that aren't even required. The man loves rules. He was so excited about his vax he texted me when he got it. His wife did, too.

If you're really trying to talk him out of getting vaxxed, Alex Berenson has a lot of data on it. He's on twitter.

Its not just your dad this is very typical male boomer behavior. My dad is bragging to everyone about it because he is slightly under 75 and pulled some strings and got an appointment. I am praying for the best after his second jab but nothing can be done to change their minds.
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
^My boomer dad is the same. He's "conservative" and even talks about how stupid a lot of the Covid hysteria is, but got both doses of the vax. He got mildly sick after taking it. My stepmom ended up in the hospital shortly after taking it, but she's a big smoker and drinker.

"Conservative" boomers are a lost cause. They are not willing to go down the rabbit hole, and they're too addicted to watching the MSM. Fox News is a joke too with all the vax pushing they do. TV is cancer.
 

FactusIRX

Kingfisher
^My boomer dad is the same. He's "conservative" and even talks about how stupid a lot of the Covid hysteria is, but got both doses of the vax. He got mildly sick after taking it. My stepmom ended up in the hospital shortly after taking it, but she's a big smoker and drinker.

"Conservative" boomers are a lost cause. They are not willing to go down the rabbit hole, and they're too addicted to watching the MSM. Fox News is a joke too with all the vax pushing they do. TV is cancer.
Exactly the same with my dad. He's a conservative and agrees with me on COOFID hysteria, but he's scheduled for the jab. His girlfriend told him that he should do it, so he's doing it (he's 68 btw). The boomer generation will not tolerate even an iota of suffering. They will gladly do whatever they are asked of if it means they can continue to go to the bar and casino.
 
Unfortunately, my father and mother have their sights set on the vaccine. I've done everything possible, to educate and warn them, but it seems the truth falls on deaf ears. My older sister, a woman that has a chip on her shoulder against men and who does not want kids: she got both shots.

I don't know what happened to the Boomer population, but I hope Christ judges them harshly, for what their generation has inflected on the world.

This "pandemic" has laid bare some sobering facts: both of my parents are not Christians, in the true sense. They don't seek the truth, they seek the path of least resistance, avoiding conflict whenever and all the time. I am somewhere between angry and frustrated with both of my parents.

My boomer father ALWAYS loves to get on his high horse about following Christ, but never follows through on the tough parts: seeking, exposing and speaking the truth. I'm really fed-up with that brand of Christianity. It's NOT just about following, or loving Christ, it's about giving a damn about the people, society and culture around you.

I'm relieved the Churches and Diocese I'm in are closed: the people who run them are frauds, through and through. Real Christians welcome adversity and being rejected. The more this and everything goes on, the more I feel that I will end up like Mikael Kalashnikov, practicing my faith outside the Church, because there are no more left.
 
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