National Justice Party
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I didn't imply I was waiting for a hero, just for something different to happen. I'm too far down the socio-economic ladder do much else. Guess I have not a little bit of learned helplessness after dealing with modernity in solitude for years.
What would you want to do, though? Does the centralized organization approach really seem like it will work at this point in time? I'm genuinely curious.
I also acknowledge that a good portion of people are unable to psychologically inhabit anything but the comfy plastic society that is portrayed on TV, but the number of hits on dissident websites and increased gun sales mean there must be salvageable people out there, though they be few in number.
The NJP is an interesting development, but I don't expect it will affect any substantial change.
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This is likely the case. The dramatists writing The Narrative need someone to put on the nazi costumes and these people have gleefully obliged.
Which will end us up where we are right now in 2020. Where the Democrat party will run this country top to bottom by 2024 will demonize anyone to the right of Kamala Harris as a "Neo-Nazi" terrorist. They don't need the NJP to do that, LOL, they already are doing it right now without the NJP.
I appreciate your well thought out response. I have no idea what the right move is. But I now realize doing nothing and moving to a little bit of farmland only buys you so long. And if you have kids your kids will likely live to 2100 and I don't think anyone on this forum thinks this train wreck can continue without great pain for another 80 years.
I just hope that people don't get in their road. From what I have heard of them their hope is to follow the legal channels, as they already have a legal team assembled, to be an officially recognized political party and push their agenda to the public in hopes of pushing candidate of the two big parties to adapt their views. Much like when the USA had two political parties and both were pro-slavery. It took the people to force the GOP on the scene to finally win over the elites and realize slavery was no longer popular among their citizenry.
I don't suggest anyone attend their public events or donate to them. There is no need to take unnecessary risk at this time, but we have to realize the GOP doesn't care about us at all and will do nothing to protect our families if nothing changes. And that is the big first step, realizing the GOP as it currently is will do nothing but sell us out and leave us with nothing.
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I want you to earnestly read this entire thread (or just the first eight or nine pages) so you are cured of the idea that this TRS party is anything but a harmful honeypot. It is actually in your best interest that all of these people involved in creating this get in a plane and crash it in the middle of Antarctica.
Great, so go back to the GOP. I know about the Alt-Light falling apart being proven as either grifters with no real principles or at worse being arrested. And I know about them trying to throw out disinformation to keep everyone on the GOP plantation.
So if everyone on the dissident right calling out the GOP are "feds" then there is no hope. The greatest of black pills. And it might in fact be true.
I'm still waiting for what to do except move off to a small town and hide out, which is nearly impossible in reality for many reasons.
Just go somewhere and live quietly is what I mean. Not start a new country per se.
I understand and respect this belief much more than thinking there will be peaceful separation. The problem is, this might buy you 5 more years, 10 years max. Soon enough the rot and decay will come for you there as well. And that is only if you can find a way to earn a living in this quiet area, which will become harder and harder year after year.
I guess my problem with this thinking is there are three Americas. There is urban American, there is suburban America and there is rural America. And the guys who see the writing on the wall from urban and suburban American think the next move is just to head to rural America. I am from rural America, there are some benefits there, but for the most part it has been hit hard too and the rot is creeping in but you have to add in the economic disaster that NAFTA created in rural America.
Our enemies are wise and successful because they learn to think far into the future. We have to start to do the same and the only path for us to live out our lives in peace and have any opportunity for our kids to not grow up in hell itself, is by standing our ground. And the only way to do that is get the message out to as many people as possible and start putting pressure on our elected officials to actually do their job or they will be replaced and shunned for life.
The Groypers did a good job of this at the speaking events for the GOP but it was too little and too late. These guys are much wiser and older and better connected than the Groypers so I am hopeful they can make a dent in one of the parties and force them to stop selling us out.
You either need to have your own business or be able to work a high paying remote job. The opportunities are as good as ever in the right field, especially with COVID. There are people living in rural areas I know personally who make mid 6 figures working remote. States like Florida, Oklahoma, and Utah. City money in a rural town. What they have in common are they have great work ethic and are really really good at their jobs. One of those guys companies think hard about losing.
There is a risk of job outsourcing and layoffs but that's a risk people are going to have to take.
There are always opportunities, so I'm not doom and gloom like many here.
One thing I miss about the old RVF is the mindset. It seems to have shifted away from aim high and achieve to just give up and enjoy the decline.
God gave us all the skills and intelligence we need.
Having your own business, at this time, is askig a lot. I believe 30% of small businesses have declared bankruptcy from the start of 2020. I don't recommend it at all.
Working remotely is becoming more possible, but rest assured ZOG will continue to find a way to shut down those options as well. It buys you time, but that is all, it isn't a permanent solution.
The old days of RVF were when we thought if only we could get our ideas out in the open then we could save the country. And now we see that isn't going to be allowed. Trump took our message, won the biggest political upset in maybe the history of the world, and then threw it all in the trash. It proves things are going to get very bad and being blindly optimistic is no longer a viable outlook.
If you've been working like that for 20 years, we're likely around the same age. I've got a nice little family with a great Christian wife and a few adorable little kids, two reliable cars, and a modest two-bedroom condo that I'll hopefully get paid off in a decade or so. I'm no genius, I just stumbled into IT and did some overseas contracting. Honestly, I'd be borderline wealthy if not for a bad investment in my wife's country that lost me tens of thousands of USD, and for being a big softy who agreed to take care of her elderly grandmother and help out with some medical issues a few of her family members had.
Regardless, I still live comfortably and have everything I need. I spent a big chunk of my adult years in the former USSR and Latin America so I'm well aware that I enjoy a living standard higher that's somewhere in the top 5% in the world, at least.
I don't know what decisions you made to have worked that hard and still be that poor, and my intent isn't to judge you. I just want to point out that if you do things right, you can still afford to have a family in the US.
I grew up in much different circumstances than most here and I can't give away too much information. I can only say I have a much better view of the big picture than most out there, so I see things differently. What most consider "well off" or "wealthy" I consider "slave". Slave is someone who has to work to pay their bills. You are a slave to your job and if you lose your job you are in big trouble. This goes from everyone working at McDonalds on up to the top heart surgeon in the USA. If you lose your job and can't afford to live without it/another job, then you are nothing more than a slave.
So my idea of "well off" is to have enough money to never have to work again and live a life you are comfortable with. After 20 years of working myself into an early grave, and living below the poverty level, I was getting close. Then coronavirus hit and Trump showed us all what a gutless coward he is and that there is no political solution with these two parties.
"We can just separate". For the love of God look what is happening in Belarus. Belarus isn't even allowed to separate. You really think they might allow you to take a chunk of Iowa and Nebraska and South Dakota and form some far fetched Christian state?
"Just move to the rural area". I am from the rural area, and this is no longer a viable option. Why do you think so many from the rural areas are committing suicide via opiods? Because there is no hope there either. For most living in the rural area they hope their kids can move to the suburbs and "make it". It is much like the 3rd world where their hope it to escape it for a better opportunity.
We have to start getting serious about this because you can't escape it.
This isn't a productive post or what we except on Roosh's forum.
I'll "tell you what to do."
Stop working 7 days a week to live like shit.
Get diagnosed with an easy to fake mental illness. Get SSDI, housing etc.
I don't understand why you would live a lifestyle that sounds comparable to one of those monks beating themselves with a whip every day.
I work hard too, every day, but an example of the work I do is helping a 18 year old kid record a couple songs over the weekend and getting paid $450 by his dad.
I don't mean to be insulting but your lifestyle doesn't make sense to me.